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Black Horse
01-10-2008, 10:22 PM
A buddy of mine wrote the following article....thought I would pass it along...so much more you can do and diagnose with your compression tester than you ever thought possible!!! Its almost like a flowbench test without removing your heads!


HOW TO PERFORM A RUNNING COMPRESSION TEST
1. Start with a normal ("static") compression test. To eliminate rings, valves, holes in pistons, that sort of things. A normal cylinder balance test is also helpful (so you know which, if any, cylinder is presenting a problem). Engine should be warm.
2. Put all spark plugs but one back in. Ground that plug wire to prevent module damage. Disconnect that injector on a port fuel system.
3. Put your compression tester into the empty hole. The test can be done without a Shrader valve, but most people recommended leaving the valve in the gauge and "burping" the gauge every 5-6 "puffs".
4. Start the engine and take a reading. Write it down
5. Now goose the throttle for a "snap acceleration" reading. Reading should rise. Write it down NOTE: Don't use the gas pedal for this snap acceleration. The idea is to manually open then close throttle as fast as possible while without speeding up the engine. This forces the engine to take a "gulp" of air.
6. Now write down your readings for at least the bad cylinder (if there is a single bad cylinder) and maybe 2-3 good ones. Make a chart like this:
CYL STATIC COMPR IDLE RUNNING COMPR SNAP
Cyl 1 150 75 125
Cyl 2 175 80 130
Cyl 3 160 75 120
Cyl 4 160 80 125

7. ANALYSIS: Running compression at idle should be 50-75 psi (about half cranking compression). Snap throttle compression should be about 80% of cranking compression.
EXAMPLE 1 - RESTRICTED INTAKE
CYL STATIC COMPR IDLE RUNNING COMPR SNAP
CYL 1 150 75 80
If Snap reading is low (much less than 80% cranking compression), look for restricted intake air- severely carboned intake valve, worn lobe on cam, rocker problem. Comparing measurements between cylinders is important.
EXAMPLE 2 - RESTRICTED EXHAUST
CYL STATIC COMPR IDLE RUNNING COMPR SNAP
CYL 1 150 75 180
If snap measurements are significantly higher than 80% of cranking measurements, look for restricted exhaust on that cylinder-such as worn exhaust cam lobe, or collapsed lifter. Or, if they are all high, look for a clogged cat converter.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
When you do a normal compression test, you are checking cylinder sealing, not cylinder breathing. When you check engine vacuum at the manifold, you are looking at the breathing of the entire engine, by checking vacuum at a common (plenum) source. You aren't testing a specific cylinder. This test looks at the breathing of an individual cylinder.
Say the engine is running at 18 inches vacuum. Atmospheric pressure is about 30 inches, so the difference (30 inches - 18 inches = 12 inches) is what the engine is sucking in. 12 inches mercury is equivalent to about 6 psi absolute air pressure. Compressed at an 8 to 1 ratio, you should get 6 x 8 = 48 psi pressure if all the air makes it into the cylinder and then gets pushed out. So your idle reading on running compression is about 50 psi.
When you snap the throttle, the manifold vacuum drops, so the absolute air pressure going into the cylinder increases.
In fact, you can do running compression tests at various constant manifold vacuum readings (by brake-torqueing the engine momentarily), and the running compression should roughly correspond to the manifold vacuum. For example, at 10 inches vacuum, engine should be breathing in about 10 psi air pressure, so you should see a running compression reading of about 80 psi (at 8 to 1 compression ratio).
If one cylinder reads low running compression compared to the rest it means that the air didn't make it in. If one cylinder reads high, the air didn't make it out (and the next pulse of air raised the pressure).

kennebellcobra
01-10-2008, 10:34 PM
Good info there!

Mista Bone
01-11-2008, 12:28 AM
Dave, can I have your buddys name to attach when I repost this on a few Honda websites, that way proper credit is given.

I just skimmed over the article, I need to read it more in depth which normally requires a beer or three :)

Black Horse
01-15-2008, 10:14 PM
His name is Steve Galbraith....one of the most talented mechanics I know!