Hamilton Cops Are Stupid and Ass Holes

[Blackout]

Was on my way to the track today with my 02 GT and it started acting up, so I had to turn around and try to make it home. Well the car got worse and was dieing left and right. Then out of no-where this Hamilton City Cop comes flying up behind me pulls me over and gives me a ticket for speeding with my car just filling the air with black smoke. I look at him, and asked the officer where he clocked me and he just shrugged. I was making alot of noise and smoke trying to keep the engine running and didn't really pay any attention to my speed. But I know I wasn't speeding.

I thought cops were employed to be public servants, not just ticket givers. A good cop would have given me a escort to the city limits incase me and wife with 3 kids in the car couldn't make it home. But that wasn't his concern. This is the main reason that cops do not get any respect and the reason I don't give it. They won't pull you over when you are really doing something wrong. They would rather get there easy quota marks.

[MsBlkramair]

What an ass!
My hubby got a ticket 2 weeks ago. Scenario:
5:30am, heading out to SCCA racing. He was going down Fields Ertel Road towards I-71 exit. He went through a YELLOW light at Mason-Montgomery Rd, and the cop was 2 lights back at Kings Auto Mall. Hubby continues on to 5/3td to the ATM. He pulls up, rolls the windown down and unbuckles......then lights flashing out of nowhere.......gets a ticket for running a RED light at mason-Montgomery Rd. WTF? $110 ticket for nothing......what is up with cops?

[Blackout]

$110 ticket for nothing......what is up with cops?

Cops today don't really want to do there job where they will actually making a difference. They look for the easiest way to make there quota's not actually picking up someone doing something wrong where they have to do there job. It's kindof funny that all the cops that I know, got there asses kicked all the time in school and now while they wear a badge they know they can call for backup.

[fst 5pto]

I thought cops did not have a certain "quota" to meet?

Coming from Hamilton, I must say the cops here are pretty laid back compared to other areas.... Just be lucky you weren't in Fairfield.

And in the cops defense, there are always three sides to a story....

[Black92LX]

Cops today don't really want to do there job where they will actually making a difference. They look for the easiest way to make there quota's not actually picking up someone doing something wrong where they have to do there job. It's kindof funny that all the cops that I know, got there asses kicked all the time in school and now while they wear a badge they know they can call for backup.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::bigthumb

I love when people make comments about things they have absolutely no clue what they are talking about.

[snotzs135]

black92lx you have to agree there are some real a$$holes out there that happen to have a police badge stuck to the front of there shirt and they tend to let that get the better of them just like the old saying one bad apple will spoil the bunch.:angel:

[beentryin]

i live in hamilton,and have to say thecops ARE assholes no doubt

[HRSEPWR]

i live in hamilton,and have to say thecops ARE assholes no doubt

:agree:

[fst 5pto]

:agree:

You guys must not get out much...?

[beentryin]

i got alot of points on my license from hpd and had alot of of scuffles with the them
from my run in with them there assholes

[HRSEPWR]

You guys must not get out much...?

no!! you must be lucky, or you've caught them on a really good day... I've lived in hamilton for 29 years, driven for 13 now, and most (i mean all) of my run-ins with HPD have not been pleasant.

:mad:

[Mista Bone]

Hamilton Cops in general are fucking DICKS!!!!!!! Well one was tonight.

I got pulled over tonight for "suspisicion" of speeding. on Route 4.

He was coming from Fairfield line, as he cleared the RR underpass, he flipped the lights on and did a quick U turn, I pulled into the new Craft store, where the tralier used to be.

He said I was doing 50 mph in a 35 mph, I started laughing and told him "your on fucking crack, Sir!" He goes back to car, calls for backup because I was "rowdy"......second cop shows up.....took 15 seconds because he was at Brewskies. The second officer walked up and asked me about my attitude. I told him his fellow officer is on crack, no way I could be doing 50 mph when he saw me. First cop brought up a ticket from me to sign, I refuse on the grounds it was impossible. First cop wanted to arrest me right there.

Second cop, nicely asked me, why would it be impossible. I showed him my receipt from the Hobby shop 400 feet back, almost directly across from Brewskies, "where your were sitting in your car parked diagnoly (sp) by the south entrance".......I'd just got done racing and if they'd like we could go back and talk with the owners.

First cop was not very happy, Second cop was nice, call over radio to void ticket, which I've never heard of. He apologized and told me I was free to go, have a safe night. I poliety thanked him and also said if I was speeding I wouldn't have been a little upset, he understood.

In my almost 25 years of driving this was one of the FEW if FIRST times I was pulled over for BS reason which I couldn't have been guilty of.

As I was leaving, First cop shouted back, mind if we search your car?????? I simply said you have no PC, you'll need a warrant, I have ALL night to wait. Second cop kinda gave me the "he's a dumbass" look......

First cop = dumbass crack smoking asshole
Second cop = professional and courteous

BTW, I won my race tonight, three weeks in a row, back in the points lead after 9 of 10 races. Next weekend is the last and it's double points :)

[Black92LX]

black92lx you have to agree there are some real a$$holes out there that happen to have a police badge stuck to the front of there shirt and they tend to let that get the better of them just like the old saying one bad apple will spoil the bunch.:angel:

You are correct about there being some assholes I will whole heartedly agree with that but they are not the vast majority.

But his comments were stated at all police and all police falling into a "quota" Which clearly shows his ignorance on the subject.

[Mista Bone]

10% assholes, 90% decent cops, that rate changes DRASTICALLY when dealing with State Patrol, nearly all of them are top notch!

Look, you get nailed for speeding, pull over, sign the ticket, pay the fine. Big deal, it's the price you pay for trying to get there quicker.

Or you could be an ass (Paul5oh) and try to skirt the system even when you were guilty.

[MsBlkramair]

Hamilton Cops in general are fucking DICKS!!!!!!! Well one was tonight.

I got pulled over tonight for "suspisicion" of speeding. on Route 4.

He was coming from Fairfield line, as he cleared the RR underpass, he flipped the lights on and did a quick U turn, I pulled into the new Craft store, where the tralier used to be.

He said I was doing 50 mph in a 35 mph, I started laughing and told him "your on fucking crack, Sir!" He goes back to car, calls for backup because I was "rowdy"......second cop shows up.....took 15 seconds because he was at Brewskies. The second officer walked up and asked me about my attitude. I told him his fellow officer is on crack, no way I could be doing 50 mph when he saw me. First cop brought up a ticket from me to sign, I refuse on the grounds it was impossible. First cop wanted to arrest me right there.

Second cop, nicely asked me, why would it be impossible. I showed him my receipt from the Hobby shop 400 feet back, almost directly across from Brewskies, "where your were sitting in your car parked diagnoly (sp) by the south entrance".......I'd just got done racing and if they'd like we could go back and talk with the owners.

First cop was not very happy, Second cop was nice, call over radio to void ticket, which I've never heard of. He apologized and told me I was free to go, have a safe night. I poliety thanked him and also said if I was speeding I wouldn't have been a little upset, he understood.

In my almost 25 years of driving this was one of the FEW if FIRST times I was pulled over for BS reason which I couldn't have been guilty of.

As I was leaving, First cop shouted back, mind if we search your car?????? I simply said you have no PC, you'll need a warrant, I have ALL night to wait. Second cop kinda gave me the "he's a dumbass" look......

First cop = dumbass crack smoking asshole
Second cop = professional and courteous

BTW, I won my race tonight, three weeks in a row, back in the points lead after 9 of 10 races. Next weekend is the last and it's double points :)

That is awesome that the second cop backed YOU up. I would ask for the name and badge of the 1st cop and call to complain about him. Again....props to cop #2!

[Blackout]

Well my biggest complaint was the fact the cop who pulled me over didn't care if I was having car problems. From the minute he walked up to my window he didn't care, and just wanted to give me a ticket. I had my wife and 3 kids in the car, one in a car seat. But I will have to say I loved it when I blew a big black cloud over his entire car. I hope it makes him sick! No doubt I will have to pay the ticket, but it was the circomstance that pissed me off.

Who's to say that a cop don't clock someone doing 50 in a 35 and decide not to pull that person over (because there driving a minivan)but keeps it in his radar gun. Then a sports car comes by and bam. He's got someone to give 9 miles of bad road and they weren't even doing anything wrong.

[Black92LX]

Who's to say that a cop don't clock someone doing 50 in a 35 and decide not to pull that person over (because there driving a minivan)but keeps it in his radar gun. Then a sports car comes by and bam. He's got someone to give 9 miles of bad road and they weren't even doing anything wrong.

Could it happen, sure. But explain to me why they would do that?
Police don't get paid by the ticket, police aren't required to write "X" amount of tickets. Police don't care if they pull over a mini van vs. a sports cars.

They have far more things to worry about whether you want to believe it or not.

Why would an officer do something so trivial when if found out they would loose their job. It makes no sense.
Sure officers do things they aren't supposed to you have that in every occupation around but bad cops are the vast vast minority of the police out there.

[snotzs135]

no cops dont get paid by the number of tickets handded out but there are a few dept that require x number of stops(points) in a shift sometimes they are tickets sometimes they arent but this is a bit off topic sorry:)

[Black92LX]

no cops dont get paid by the number of tickets handded out but there are a few dept that require x number of stops(points) in a shift sometimes they are tickets sometimes they arent but this is a bit off topic sorry:)

Actually in most states and under federal law quotas are illegal.
A department can say hey we would like you to write this many tickets a month but if one does not make that number there can be no ramifications.

The only thing officers are required to do is answer their dispatched calls. If they don't do that then yes they can get in trouble or loose there job. No no individual officer activity can be mandated.

Again that doesn't mean the department can't say we would like you to write "X" amount of tickets.

I wrote 7 moving violations last month and that is on the high side for my activity. Never heard a word about it.
But then again my felony arrests are higher than most.

Officers have their things they like to focus on. Some folks write lots and lots of moving violations because it's what they like not because they are mandated to do it.

[PaulFiveOh]

Or you could be an ass (Paul5oh) and try to skirt the system even when you were guilty.

Whats your problem bone. So what if it appears that I am clearly guilty. I am young and sharp....which means I am motivated to take full advantage of our legal system.

Why does it bother you (enough to call me an asshole), that I, am going to fight this ticket? What do you have invested in the situation that qualifies you to make personal attacks about it?

[djom1cincy]

Something i found on another website posted by a police officer.

No - quotas are illegal in all 50 states - they are a violation of your civil rights. There is no compensation for officers who write the most, nor putitive actions for the officers who write the least. Everything comes into play when a citation is written. The attitude of the violator, the mood of the officer, whether there is a directed patrol for that area (a lot of crashes happen at an intersection due to red light runners, etc.). And, there is no time of the month for not getting a cite or a warning instead.

Police departments do get a small cut of the fines you (and I) pay for citations. This goes back into the department for traffic education, equipment (radar, speed limit signs, DUI checkpoints, training, motorcycles, etc.). But the courts get most of the fines for court cost reimbursemeny=t
(salaries and stuff). I hope this answers your question!

[5.0calypso93lx]

Whats your problem bone. So what if it appears that I am clearly guilty. I am young and sharp....which means I am motivated to take full advantage of our legal system.

Why does it bother you (enough to call me an asshole), that I, am going to fight this ticket? What do you have invested in the situation that qualifies you to make personal attacks about it?

Ever heard of ethics?

[Black92LX]

Ever heard of ethics?

He has every right to fight the ticket if he so feels the need.
I don't know the background of the case at hand but if he wants to fight it whether he is guilty or not our legal system allows for that.

[5.0calypso93lx]

He has every right to fight the ticket if he so feels the need.
I don't know the background of the case at hand but if he wants to fight it whether he is guilty or not our legal system allows for that.

He has already admitted to being guilty of the crime.

[Black92LX]

He has already admitted to being guilty of the crime.

I understand that. But our legal system gives him every right to fight it to the end.

Is it the best option, not in my opinion. I am one to say if you did it man up and pay the fine or take the punishment.
But the legal system also allows him to take it as far as he would like

[5.0calypso93lx]

I understand that. But our legal system gives him every right to fight it to the end.

Is it the best option, not in my opinion. I am one to say if you did it man up and pay the fine or take the punishment.
But the legal system also allows him to take it as far as he would like

When did I ever say he didn't have a right to fight the legal system? I said ETHICS....

[PaulFiveOh]

My Ethics and my morals are MY OWN. They do not affect you in any way, so why comment?

James, Ethics are relative. If you feel me fighting this ticket is unethical, you are basing it off of your moral index, not mine.

You can't (well, you shouldn't) pass judgment on to someone when the judgment you are making is referencing your Moral & Ethical standards, and not theirs' (in which case the appropriate argument would be hypocrisy).

[rogers]

my brother in law is HPD and a pretty great guy all around to my sister and there children. recently while in town i did a ride along for the night shift through the wonderful town of hamiltucky and man did i ever see some shit. if a cop is behind you he's running your plates but that's where they get alot of leads we pulled a girl over for a warrant and a suspended drivers licence (let her hit you without insurance man you'll be pissed) either way she knew she was going to get busted but she had been (flirting with the system till it finally burnt her ass) after seeing how much shit the officers go through everyday yeah it turns them cold towards about every situation, they hear it all.

i.e. a hit and run in 3rd ward? at the (square) about 1 in the morning some older ladies car, 15 to 30 people standing around and nobody seen anything whatever but there was nothing we could do but make a report.

a crack head kicked in the door of a crack house and we had to areest her for breaking and entering cause her husband was smoking up of the money on crack and wouldn't share got her down to the station and she turns informant quick there will be another bust in hamilton soon just wait and see.

people who have hurt children calls on incest and rape, not so much a murder call but so much violence they deal with on a regular basis.

if a cop pulls you over and you were wrong just pay the ticket, your an adult and know better, if you feel you wern't wrong and aren't guilty take the ticket slip wait for court and go about it the right way get a lawyer

yeah cops are asshole but how you act if every person you came across was always like it wasn't my fault waaa i'm innocent.... waaaaa it's not my drugs.... waaaa im not drunk, i didn't know she was 14 and my cousin waaaa

whatever the for the most part are just people with a family and job just like you but you don't need a bullet proof vest to do your's get a lawyer and fight it thats your right

[5.0calypso93lx]

My Ethics and my morals are MY OWN. They do not affect you in any way, so why comment?

James, Ethics are relative. If you feel me fighting this ticket is unethical, you are basing it off of your moral index, not mine.

You can't (well, you shouldn't) pass judgment on to someone when the judgment you are making is referencing your Moral & Ethical standards, and not theirs' (in which case the appropriate argument would be hypocrisy).

As much as I agree that everyone has their own ethics and morals, a murderer can make the same arguement about killing someone. Does that make it right?

Basically it comes down to the fact that you have already admitted that you know what you have done was wrong, by admitting your guilt. Yet you are going to try and get around the system "just because I can". Hence why I mentioned ethics in the first place.

[Mista Bone]

Paul, I understand it's just "playing the game" and trying to get the other side to flinch. Same way other people do it to get out of DUI convictions when they already have a few.......or end up with 6-7 (or 18!) DUI's.

Speeding is a pay to play game. You'll get caught sooner or later, just pay and be on with it. You'll end up with 10 points, maybe you should either slow down or start walking. Just my 2 cents.

[PaulFiveOh]

Yet you are going to try and get around the system "just because I can". Hence why I mentioned ethics in the first place.

Definitely a fair statement.

I guess it speaks to my moral index compared to yours.

[5.0calypso93lx]

Definitely a fair statement.

I guess it speaks to my moral index compared to yours.

Agreed :bigthumb

[2-8-1]

Could it happen, sure. But explain to me why they would do that?

Because some people are just like that. They wont give a minivan a ticket because they deem them a non-threat, however, Mr. Successful in an expensive sports car is obviously doing better in life than them, so they give them the ticket to help their own ego. It's a state of mind, human nature sub-conscious that drives people to elevate themselves over the next person in a master/submission scenario.

Yes, officers are supposed to be neutral, are they? Not a chance in hell.


Whats your problem bone. So what if it appears that I am clearly guilty. I am young and sharp....which means I am motivated to take full advantage of our legal system.

Personally, it tells me that you are young and irresponsible and that you feel you shouldn't have to take responsibility for your own actions, regardless of the legality of the situation.

Don't think I am trying to bash you, as I have had numerous tickets that I was completely guilty for, yet, because of my irresponsibility, I either litigated my way out of them, or I used the "its who you know" tactic. I now just do the legal thing, or if I do the illegal thing, I pay the fine and request traffic school. Personally, it was a phase. I can't fault you for fighting the system, and I wont, as I have been guilty of much worse than a speeding ticket, yet bypassed the entire nasty penalty.

[PaulFiveOh]

Don't think I am trying to bash you

Not at all. I value what you said up there. As far as being a phase, yea it probably is. But to be honest, I have a little bit riding on it.
It will be my 10th point if I get convicted.

As far as not taking responsibility for my actions, that is 50% accurate. Of course I know that allegedly I was speeding. Do I know that speeding is against the law, of course I do. But, if I CAN reduce my sentence or mitigate the situation completely, why in the heck would I not?

I think you are one of only a few on here who understand my motives completely and fully.

[2-8-1]

Not at all. I value what you said up there. As far as being a phase, yea it probably is. But to be honest, I have a little bit riding on it.
It will be my 10th point if I get convicted.

How many are you allowed, in KY we are allowed 12 to lose.


Basically it comes down to the fact that you have already admitted that you know what you have done was wrong, by admitting your guilt. Yet you are going to try and get around the system "just because I can". Hence why I mentioned ethics in the first place.

On that note, what do ethics mean to you? When I skirted my way around several years in jail, a several thousand dollar fine, and the loss of my driving privileges, not too mention the several felonies that were being adding to my record, ethics to me, meant doing anything and everything I could to make every single charge disappear.

By some very crafty slight of hand, and a hefty sum of money exchanging hands, I was able to negate all consequences aside of time and money well spent. Did I learn something? Yes. Am I a better person for effectively cheating the system? Yes. Am I more responsible and do I have better ethics now? Yes and Maybe. If it happened again, then yes, I would try every way I could think of to push the charges off of me and into the "do not disturb" bin. Why you might ask? Even though I know the consequences of my actions now, should I choose to make a bad decision again, then I cannot afford to pay the legal consequences. Would you try every way in the world to avoid the consequences if you were in that position? Ethics, morals, and conscious aside, If you didn't, you would be a fool.

I don't try to pretend that hiding in the loopholes in the law is the correct thing to do. But when you neck is on the line so to speak, you don't really care.

[PaulFiveOh]

Same. 12 = FRA Suspension

[BIGRED Z]

Basic psychology could explain why people become cops.

Some truley have a desire to serve the public and do so accordingly as good police officers. These types could easily choose to be nurses, doctors, attorneys, politicians, or others who serve the people.

Others have a need to exert authority and power that they would not normally have unless they were cops. In other words, they choose a legal venue under which to exert said desire for power. These types could also choose to be thugs, burglars, gangsters, attorneys, or politicians.

Goes to show that in each and every type of job description out there, you can have several types of people who occupy that position.

Some are good, some suck the donkey dick. Just hope that the day you run across any of them, they are the good type.

But keep in mind, even the good people have bad days, and are even less interested in helping you out if you have a bad attitude or act like a jackass.

Point in case...I am a nurse. I enjoy most of my patients. But if you generally act like a jackass, call me names, and piss me off...I'm gonna be a little bit slower in getting you that pain medicine than if you acted like a decent human being.

We're all human. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And if that fails...well, just remember we're all human.

[denial]

I'm in the police academy myself and can't wait to get out there in the field. Maybe i can get on at Hamilton and be one of the nice guys lol. :) :)

[Holly]

Dedpedal and I took the back way from Trader's World on Saturday, through Hamilton. Believe it or not, that was the first time I have EVER been in that town! I was surprised how big it was honestly. Didn't look like a bad town, not after all the horror stories I heard about it. The traffic lights caught me by surprise, if Kevin had not pointed them out, I would not have noticed them!

We had the t-tops out of his stang and took the back way to Edgewater. Thanks for the cruise Kevin!

Carry on.....

ps - Didn't see one cop.

[Black92LX]

Dedpedal and I took the back way from Trader's World on Saturday, through Hamilton. Believe it or not, that was the first time I have EVER been in that town! I was surprised how big it was honestly. Didn't look like a bad town, not after all the horror stories I heard about it. The traffic lights caught me by surprise, if Kevin had not pointed them out, I would not have noticed them!

We had the t-tops out of his stang and took the back way to Edgewater. Thanks for the cruise Kevin!

Carry on.....

ps - Didn't see one cop.

Hamilton is Butler counties county seat. So it has to have some sort of civilization:lol:

[Black Horse]

Hamilton kind of grows on you. Sometimes its like fungus, others like a beautiful bouquet. It all depends on where you are standing.

Every town has its good and bad points and people. I know a few of the Hamilton police and they are upstanding guys. I got pulled over one night (well sort of - he followed me into a parking lot) - he just wanted to see my car!

[2-8-1]

We're all human. Treat others as you would like to be treated. And if that fails...well, just remember we're all human.

Well said.

[may93]

If you receive a speeding ticket and you know your guilty then pay the fine. On the other hand if you know your innocent then fight the system until the very end. I think the majority of Police Officers are professional and do the right thing.

[BIGHONKEY]

A good friend of mine is a Hamilton Cop. I wonder if he was the asshole? :lol:

Hucke is his last name and he was recently in the news for getting attacked by a pitbull.

[MsBlkramair]

If you receive a speeding ticket and you know your guilty then pay the fine. On the other hand if you know your innocent then fight the system until the very end. I think the majority of Police Officers are professional and do the right thing.

Ok question for you. Does the cop have to mention when the court date is written on your ticket? They have ALWAYS siad it to me when handing me a ticket..........but this guy never mentioned a court date to hubby. It is usually in 2 weeks just like the same time you supposed to pay it. This ticket (revert to page 1) had a court date 3 days from the date of issue.........which was a Sunday. It was our fault for not looking at it more closely, but that is crazy. There was no time to prepare or get off work to fight it. He should never have gotten that ticket. I just want to know if that was done "dirty." We just sucked it up and paid the ticket.....but in actuality we shouldn't have had to.

[Black92LX]

Ok question for you. Does the cop have to mention when the court date is written on your ticket? They have ALWAYS siad it to me when handing me a ticket..........but this guy never mentioned a court date to hubby. It is usually in 2 weeks just like the same time you supposed to pay it. This ticket (revert to page 1) had a court date 3 days from the date of issue.........which was a Sunday. It was our fault for not looking at it more closely, but that is crazy. There was no time to prepare or get off work to fight it. He should never have gotten that ticket. I just want to know if that was done "dirty." We just sucked it up and paid the ticket.....but in actuality we shouldn't have had to.

no the officer does not have to mention the court date to you. Though it must be written on the ticket. It's common courtesy to explain as much but if someone is being a real jerk I am not going to waste my time arguing at the side of the road with them because that is the most dangerous place for an officer to be.

Here in Kentucky there is no legal requirement as to how far out they give you because it's only an arraignment where you come in and say that you plan on pleading not guilty or guilty if you like but why waste the time coming in when you can just mail it.. Then a trial date will be set generally a month or so from then. Giving you plenty of time to prepare.

As for it being a Sunday could be just a typo looked at the calender wrong or was on the wrong month. It happens. Also generally if you have a problem with the court date you can call the prosecutor before hand and they will reschedule you for something that is more convenient within a reasonable amount of time.

[BigBadStang]

Dedpedal and I took the back way from Trader's World on Saturday, through Hamilton. Believe it or not, that was the first time I have EVER been in that town! I was surprised how big it was honestly. Didn't look like a bad town, not after all the horror stories I heard about it. The traffic lights caught me by surprise, if Kevin had not pointed them out, I would not have noticed them!

We had the t-tops out of his stang and took the back way to Edgewater. Thanks for the cruise Kevin!

Carry on.....

ps - Didn't see one cop.

They are supposed to be getting rid of the sidewalk mounted lights on Main Street, and switching to the overhead mounted ones...thank god...they are hard to see for people that have never been through there!

HPD is where is took my CCW class, and the guys I met there were really good guys. You will always find some that are worse than others. It could be many things...maybe he and his wife had a huge fight as he was going out the door to work or something. you never know, and we are all human. I'm sure we all have went to work pissed off and taken it out on some innocent person. I'm not saying it's right, but it does happen.