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85_SS_302_Coupe
10-30-2008, 08:15 PM
This is kinda long but please look at the pics and read this and let me know if you know anything about this thing...

I've had this ever since i was about 10 years old. I had a friend growing up who's dad was a war nut, and he had literally 100s of these things in a grocery bag in a bottom drawer of their gun cabinet. I was told at the time that they were used to derail enemy train shipments. I believe it's a block of sulpher (based off the smell and the fact that they'll burn under water) wrapped in a waxy paper with lead/tin straps out to the sides that would wrap around a train track, and when the train runs over it, they explode.

I don't know how true that is but i know they definitely were used on train tracks and i know they will explode when trains run over them....when we were kids we used to get a bunch of them and break them open and break off little pieces and hit them with a hammer on concrete and they'd pop...and i mean pop louder than any fire cracker you've ever heard. You couldn't pop a piece anywhere near the size of a pea because not only would it blow your ear drums but it would send rock dust shrapnel in your face. It also takes a tremendous force to pop them...you can't just stomp your foot on them to make them go, and i don't think a car could do it...it takes solid impact to make them blow.

One time when i was about 15 me and some guys got curious and rigged up a way to crush a whole brick. One of my friends' dad was a truck driver, and they had some semi wheels (without the center hubs) behind their house. Anyone who's ever tried to pick one of these up knows how seriously heavy they are. We stacked 3 of them up and put a brick on the ground inside them where the sulpher block laid, then put a big ladder over the tires and ran a long rope with another brick tied to it so we could drop it from a safe distance. It took a few drops but when this thing went off, all 3 wheels went a good 15 feet into the air and we all hit the deck. It scared the hell out of us and i don't think any of us ever played with them again. This one has been in a keepsake box ever since.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/EVIL85SSP/PA300014.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/EVIL85SSP/PA300019.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee275/EVIL85SSP/PA300021.jpg

Anyways, besides all that, does anyone know what their true purpose was, or has anyone even seen them before? If it really is a war relic i'd like to know...unfortunately i only have this one left after so many years. I've searched for "Standard Railway Fuses Corp." and come up with nothing.

MustangChuck
10-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Got any idea what period it was used?

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-30-2008, 08:29 PM
I was told WWI+II, but again i don't know how true that could be. I question whether it really has enough power to derail a train, even though it probably could've lifted a car off the ground if there was a way to detonate it under one. I've always thought it might have something to do with slowing a train down in a hurry and not so much about derailing one.

MustangChuck
10-30-2008, 08:33 PM
One by itself may not have been able to derail a train, but several charges daisy chained together may have. But I could be wrong.

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah i'd say a few of them back to back might be capable of it.

mustang8998
10-30-2008, 08:42 PM
I live next to a train track, wanna try it out? :lol:

MustangChuck
10-30-2008, 08:44 PM
You know how some people used to squish pennies on train tracks? I heard that can derail a train too. I dont know how accurate that is tho.

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I live next to a train track, wanna try it out? :lol:

Lol, when i was a kid i was always afraid that one of my retard friends would actually try it.

Maybe the Antique Roadshow will come to town and i can take it there and some nerd can tell me it's worth 100k :rolleyes:

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-30-2008, 08:48 PM
You know how some people used to squish pennies on train tracks? I heard that can derail a train too. I dont know how accurate that is tho.

Well i'd say anything is possible but that sounds more like an urban legend to scare kids and keep them from doing it. I've squished lots of pennies and other coins on the tracks growing up out in Mt. Orab. Then again i bet if you put too many coins on a track and put them on both sides, it could be enough to slide the train enough to derail...who knows.

Timido
10-30-2008, 09:10 PM
Noise Maker to alert trains ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/11435930@N06/2378240215/

mustang8998
10-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Good job, Timmay!

Mark66
10-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Great Find

mustang8998
10-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Well i'd say anything is possible but that sounds more like an urban legend to scare kids and keep them from doing it. I've squished lots of pennies and other coins on the tracks growing up out in Mt. Orab. Then again i bet if you put too many coins on a track and put them on both sides, it could be enough to slide the train enough to derail...who knows.

Nah, that wouldn't happen.

I have a 1976 penny, that was smashed by the Bicentennial Train, when it was touring the country.

MustangChuck
10-30-2008, 09:21 PM
Might be worth a pretty penny (pun intended) lol.

mustang8998
10-30-2008, 09:32 PM
Might be worth a pretty penny (pun intended) lol.

Yeah, it might be, IF a hundred bazzilion other people didn't do it too!

Stangman
10-31-2008, 08:17 AM
Nah, that wouldn't happen.

I have a 1976 penny, that was smashed by the Bicentennial Train, when it was touring the country.

Shoulda did it to a Bicentennial Quarter!

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-31-2008, 04:15 PM
Cool man thanks for the find! They didn't mention anything about the year/time they used them...any idea?

Timido
10-31-2008, 04:19 PM
Mid 1920's I think I saw a patent Number filed for it when I Google searched the Company. I think the Company is still in Buisness.

Waffles
10-31-2008, 04:33 PM
You know how some people used to squish pennies on train tracks? I heard that can derail a train too. I dont know how accurate that is tho.

Actually, you can't even derail a train with a railroad spike. If you lay a railroad spike on the track, when the train hits it... it's not pretty. The spike gets shot off like a bullet.

Stangman
10-31-2008, 04:34 PM
I want to see a video of that!

85_SS_302_Coupe
10-31-2008, 05:39 PM
Wow 1920s? Could it be worth anything besides the cool factor?

Lexstang
11-02-2008, 10:01 PM
Its not like electical fuses. Its a fusee which is a flare. They also burn underwater and have sulfur. Its not at all hard to believe they changed the formula a little to create explosives.
I don't know specifically about the hardware you have, although I would be pretty sure it is technically illegal as hell being an explosive. It is very plausable that it could cause derailments. I do know that its not that important to get the rail cars themselves but to put the locomotive on the ground. You don't have to blow it into the air, just damage the track. The metal band might assist in cutting the track while the wheel and weight of the train essentially creates a shaped charge to knife through the rail. The cars are much lighter but you've got to have some serious equipment to get a locomotive back on the tracks. Not to mention because of its weight and the train behind it you total the locomotive. Think about it. I can put a box in any old boxcar, but if I can't pull any car it doesn't matter if I have it loaded or not.
The fighters when strafing on the way home from bomber escort they hit the locomotive first because it definately put it out of commission. then maybe they could destroy the cargo but maybe not.