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1992MustangDW
11-15-2008, 09:29 PM
???? I dont think this should be in there

aperacer
11-15-2008, 09:36 PM
is it a lash cap for the cam follower?

1992MustangDW
11-15-2008, 10:56 PM
its solid on both side no holes.

cstreu1026
11-15-2008, 11:07 PM
Don't know what it is but I am pretty sure it shouldn't be in your oil pan.

bobtsgt
11-15-2008, 11:37 PM
looks like a roller off one of the rocker arms. get a pic of it next to a dime or something so we can reference the size.

1992MustangDW
11-15-2008, 11:40 PM
smaller than A dime thats for sure... I will get pic asap.

YouGotJunk
11-16-2008, 02:24 AM
Is it some sort of magnet maybe?? Looks kinda weird.

02mingryGT
11-16-2008, 10:09 AM
looks like a roller off one of the rocker arms. get a pic of it next to a dime or something so we can reference the size.

Does look like one. Hard to believe it would fall off though without really tearing up something.

BYEBYE2U
11-16-2008, 10:39 AM
damn ,that sure explains the noise you heard in the engine huh? LOL!!

1992MustangDW
11-16-2008, 10:49 AM
lol Im thinking someone thought it was a magnet and put it in there.. Previous Owner or something.

02mingryGT
11-16-2008, 11:09 AM
To be honest, if you've already pulled the motor pop off the valve covers and check the followers. Just to be on the safe side.

Goober
11-16-2008, 07:06 PM
Does look like one. Hard to believe it would fall off though without really tearing up something.
If it IS one, you have bigger problems than just head work now.

1992MustangDW
11-16-2008, 08:30 PM
could have fallen down threw the timing cover none of the pistons have holes in them that I can see.

1992MustangDW
11-16-2008, 08:31 PM
can anyone get me some torque specs on rod bearing and main bearings?

Dirtyd0g
11-16-2008, 09:11 PM
If you are using ARP bolts you can get them on the ARP website. If you are using new OEM bolts They are Torque to yield you need an angle guage. If you are reusing stock bolts I don't know what to tell you. Maybe a few prayers with each one. That part looks liek a differential or manual transmission tapered bearing to me.
Alan

02mingryGT
11-17-2008, 01:23 PM
They are TTY. As above says use ARP bolts. However if you want risk it below are the specs:

Step 1: 15 to 18
Step 2: 30 to 33
Step 3: Rotate an additional 90 deg

I wouldn't though.

Also if you haven't already I'd pull the crank and check the bearings there as well. And then I'd take the block and have it flushed. You probably have bearing material in every crack and crevice. You should pull the oil pump off as well and clean it out. I ended up replacing the oil pickup tube and pump just because of the amount of material in it. IMO your just asking for trouble putting a dirty block back together. Be aware if you do pull the main caps those are TTY as well and would need to be replaced.

1992MustangDW
11-17-2008, 01:28 PM
yeah we plan on getting it flushed and replacing all bearings, I am not going threw this again.... I just couldnt find specs anywhere thanks minty.

NXcoupe
11-17-2008, 06:05 PM
Rather than getting the crank turned, I have a good stocker sitting here for 20 bucks. It is out of a 4.6 2V, should be a drop in. You can't really use the rods again if they have had a bearing spin in them, and I am not sure if anyone is reconditioning them yet. They do offer an oversized bearing for larger big ends after reconditioning, but it would take someone that has done it before to get it right. Good luck! The first ones are always the toughest!

Blackout
11-17-2008, 07:31 PM
so did you figure out what it was?

Looks like the roller off a rocker. I am not sure though without seeing it.

1992MustangDW
11-17-2008, 07:34 PM
I have no clue, Pulling off cam covers now.

Blackout
11-17-2008, 07:39 PM
When pulling the drivers side off, make sure you reach behind and press the gasket in the groove of the valve cover. TAKE YOUR TIME!!!! and don't snag the gasket. They will become fagile, but they are still reuseable. Also, when you put the cover back on make sure it seals. It will make a mess if you don't.

1992MustangDW
11-17-2008, 07:52 PM
ok thank you.. hey do you know what kind of grease to use on rod bearing when i get that far? or the steps it take this is my first rodeo, also do you just put grease on the side that touches the crank and not the other side?

Dirtyd0g
11-17-2008, 09:06 PM
ok thank you.. hey do you know what kind of grease to use on rod bearing when i get that far? or the steps it take this is my first rodeo, also do you just put grease on the side that touches the crank and not the other side?

I use STP oil treatment. On all bearing surfaces liberally.
Alan

1992MustangDW
11-17-2008, 09:20 PM
thank you

black90lx
11-17-2008, 10:14 PM
i use federal mogul assembly lube. They sell it at autozone. Put it on just the side that touches the crank. That stuff is real tacky.

plattner01
11-19-2008, 01:12 AM
looks like end of a roller ???

BigBadStang
11-19-2008, 09:33 AM
I'm with Dirtyd0g.

I'm certain that the part you found is one of the rollers out of a tapered roller bearing(how in the hell it got there is anyones guess)...like these...
http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11472784/Tapered_Roller_Bearing.jpg

1992MustangDW
11-19-2008, 10:01 AM
yea thats what it is, I guess someone was careless when they had it apart last.

02mingryGT
11-19-2008, 12:54 PM
WOW! That's some crazy shit there. Good find Big Bad Stang.

bobtsgt
11-19-2008, 02:25 PM
I was doing bearings on a machine yesterday and I thought of that as well. Really would like to know how in the hell it got in the pan.

02mingryGT
11-19-2008, 04:04 PM
I was thinking maybe off the front bearing that's in the timing cover. I think that's a bearing or is that a seal? That's pretty sad that I rebuilt my motor and don't remember that....lol.

bobtsgt
11-19-2008, 04:20 PM
seal on the front cover there Corey. If you put a bearing in you may develop problems later on :D

Kevin1989
11-19-2008, 04:36 PM
thats odd i have never seen a kanooter valve cap in an oil pan!!! thats bad

1992MustangDW
11-19-2008, 06:21 PM
lol yea its bad ran a compression test all cylinders are good had smyth turn crank and got 2rods, thats weird they are break rods when they start doing that?

Motor is back together going to go get some oil now.

02mingryGT
11-19-2008, 06:34 PM
seal on the front cover there Corey. If you put a bearing in you may develop problems later on :D

:lol::lol::lol: Thanks Bob.

1992MustangDW
11-19-2008, 06:37 PM
lol everything is looking good, hopefully that lil thing didnt do anything, also there was a spot on the oil pan were it was pinched below the pickup tube.

bobtsgt
11-19-2008, 10:31 PM
:lol::lol::lol: Thanks Bob.

anytime buddy :bigthumb

glad you got it put back together so soon. as long as the compression is good you should be alright with the bearings.