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cstreu1026
09-16-2009, 12:35 PM
http://www.local12.com/news/state/story/University-to-pay-burned-student-500K/yIqPqJ8atEejoyJiVgxdKQ.cspx

Why was it the school's resposibility to to decide whether or not it an ADULT student is physically able to take on an activity.

beefcake
09-16-2009, 04:42 PM
there isn't any and it's frikin ridiculous

whats more ridiculous is the people who award money to these people in these kind of cases

Waffles
09-16-2009, 05:07 PM
We, tongue in cheek, said something about requiring a phyiscal with a medical release to race at Thornhill. This was in response to a few people who thought the track could be somehow responsible for a guy that had a heart attack and died while racing about a month or so ago. When you see stuff like this article, it really makes you wonder. We really need tort reform in this country.

sean
09-16-2009, 07:33 PM
Sue happy and the idiots are more than happy to settle so their name doesnt get soiled. Jerk off lawyers and shady people. No wonder we are in the shape we are in. Mr seizure prob should have used his head and avoided the wilderness trip on his own. I am sure he will sue when someone looks at him funny and grab some more headlines.
Man I am bitter today

04 Venom
09-16-2009, 07:51 PM
We, tongue in cheek, said something about requiring a phyiscal with a medical release to race at Thornhill. This was in response to a few people who thought the track could be somehow responsible for a guy that had a heart attack and died while racing about a month or so ago. When you see stuff like this article, it really makes you wonder. We really need tort reform in this country.

I have to agree with Hardcore on this. After my son got out of the USMC, he was working two jobs to make ends meet, including a night job as a bouncer in Baltimore. He and another guy took a drunk out of the bar that started a fight. The cops took the guy away and took care of business when the asshole resisted.

The dirt bag waited until just before the statute of limitations was due to expire and filed a civil suit against the police and my son. The bar was out of business by then, so my son was on his own for the legal expenses. He has just bought a townhouse and used all the money he saved in the military and the 2 jobs to make a nice down payment, but he was tapped out for money. I hired a lawyer for him and even though the case was tossed, it cost $13K in legal fees.

Yeah, I could have filed a counterclaim against the asshole for filing a frivolous suit, but that would have cost another $10K or so and I would have wound up with a judgment with no reasonable chance of collecting on it. It was still better than my son having to sell the home he just bought to pay legal fees.

Waffles
09-16-2009, 08:24 PM
An old friend in L.A. owns a garage. His office was the only thing actually in a building. The rest was open air, as many things out there. Metal roof for the occassional rain, and chain link gates. Some Mexican illegal jumped from a tree onto his metal roof. He fell through the roof, broke a leg and got stuck. He evidently cut himself up on the roof too. The illegal Mexican doing other illegal things that got himself hurt, then sued my friend. This was years ago, and it was still something like $200k. Makes me wanna scream!

mustang8998
09-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Tort reform and loser pays!

About the only thing Europeans have right.

04 Venom
09-16-2009, 11:04 PM
An old friend in L.A. owns a garage. His office was the only thing actually in a building. The rest was open air, as many things out there. Metal roof for the occassional rain, and chain link gates. Some Mexican illegal jumped from a tree onto his metal roof. He fell through the roof, broke a leg and got stuck. He evidently cut himself up on the roof too. The illegal Mexican doing other illegal things that got himself hurt, then sued my friend. This was years ago, and it was still something like $200k. Makes me wanna scream!

If your friend paid $200K to his attorney, the illegal immigrant is not the one who ripped him off.

cstreu1026
09-17-2009, 08:04 AM
Tort reform and loser pays!

About the only thing Europeans have right.

That could be the single best thing that could happen in this country.

Pops Fun
09-17-2009, 09:12 AM
Where do these people come from that award these things??

04 Venom
09-17-2009, 09:19 AM
If your friend paid $200K to his attorney, the illegal immigrant is not the one who ripped him off.

My bad. I thought Hardcore was referring to legal fees rather than a jury award.

Black92LX
09-17-2009, 10:55 AM
That could be the single best thing that could happen in this country.

In so many ways!!!

It would solve a large portion of our health care reform alone!!

04 Venom
09-17-2009, 11:35 AM
Tort reform and loser pays!

About the only thing Europeans have right.

I'm not sure that would always be a good thing. For most people working class people, even the possibilty of paying legal fees if you lose would discourage otherwise meritorous claims.

Judges in most states have significant discretion to dismiss frivolous cases, but are reluctant to do so--particularly in states where they are elected instead of being appointed. I would prefer to see more directed verdicts in such cases and discplining the attorney that brought the claim--rather than the plantiff.

mustang8998
09-18-2009, 12:47 AM
I'm not sure that would always be a good thing. For most people working class people, even the possibilty of paying legal fees if you lose would discourage otherwise meritorous claims.

Judges in most states have significant discretion to dismiss frivolous cases, but are reluctant to do so--particularly in states where they are elected instead of being appointed. I would prefer to see more directed verdicts in such cases and discplining the attorney that brought the claim--rather than the plantiff.

I agree, to a point. If the losing attorney has to pay, then all the ambulance chasers would change their attitudes. Frivolous cases, are mostly started by these leaches.

I also think that there should be a reformation, of all law suits, that puts caps on individual cases. Class action suits should have a cap, on attorney fees, as well.

This country has become way too litigious.

04 Venom
09-18-2009, 08:41 AM
This country has become way too litigious.

I absolutely agree.

02mingryGT
09-18-2009, 12:12 PM
Most issues could be solved easily with "frontier justice"

cstreu1026
09-24-2009, 12:28 PM
http://www.local12.com/news/state/story/Ky-college-student-sues-Nashville-bar-over-fall/QtalbryQ1Eu1liqHNOQh8w.cspx

And yet another example. She should be given money for getting drunk and falling off a bar she was dancing on? Give me a break.

thecollector
10-07-2009, 10:42 AM
RIP: Common sense, good judgement, and personnel responsibility.

The media should hype these types of cases to make these attorneys and plaintiffs realize what morons they are. Public humilitation should be used as a deterent.

This bar fly wouldn't push the lawsuit if everyone on campus recognized her as "the wench that fell of the bar."

Waffles
10-14-2009, 04:12 PM
I agree, to a point. If the losing attorney has to pay, then all the ambulance chasers would change their attitudes. Frivolous cases, are mostly started by these leaches.

I also think that there should be a reformation, of all law suits, that puts caps on individual cases. Class action suits should have a cap, on attorney fees, as well.

This country has become way too litigious.

I'm not usually in favor of much in the way of government imposed caps and limits on things, at least in the marketplace and I'm not sure about something like this. You'd have to really think it through, because while I understand things like price caps and minimum wage are well intended, they often suffer from the law of unintended consequences.