2002 Mustang GT Turbo project

[Blackout]

Well looks like i will be the guinea pig for the on3 performance turbo kit. I am waiting to get my k-member delivered. For $3300 for everything is hard to pass up. I will post pics as soon as I start the install.

[Jrcmutang]

he makes some really good stuff and is an honest guy to deal with

[5.0calypso93lx]

Stainless or Steel kit? Beware of that stainless kit of his.

[1byafender]

Stainless or Steel kit? Beware of that stainless kit of his.

How many problems have you had with yours? Orrrr....are you just going by what someone else told you?

[Walter]

How many problems have you had with yours? Orrrr....are you just going by what someone else told you?

Its proven on several forums that the on3 ss kit are junk. I did read that they switched to mild steel tho.

[5.0calypso93lx]

How many problems have you had with yours? Orrrr....are you just going by what someone else told you?

I'm not sure if that was a smart ass comment or not but you can start here:

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=128558.0

This thread has been HEAVILY edited. I followed it from the beginning.

Basically dude started hearing an exhaust leak and found a massive hole in one of the primaries. On3 no longer was making the stainless version of the kit, and wanted the guy to purchase their steel kit, send the stainless kit back, and they would try and sell the stainless kit and give him whatever they got out of it! It took making a public thread for the guy from On3 to finally make it right, and the On3 guy started responding back to the idiots who were posting in the thread in a pretty unprofessional manner. Would have been better off just not responding to the idiots, but he did.

Brian from BG came in and offered the OP a free hotside if he could throw the On3 stuff in the garbage. :lol:

You won't see an On3 kit on my car, that's for sure.

[1byafender]

Just throwing a little jab at ya. All in fun!!

[Blackout]

I have read both and I talked to the guys up there and when picking it up they put it in writing a warranty that says if the piping goes bad in the first 5 years they will replace it. And if they don't I know where to find them and they know it. So I have no doubt that they will make it right. :)

There are alot of mixed threads on the internet all over the place about the on3 kits. Some people are very happy with them and have had them for a while and there are the people who bought kits from another place and say that the on3's kits are junk. Most everyone that I have talked to on different forums are happy with there kit.

Well as conclusion to this arguement ..... I have a 5 year warranty with the piping from corrosion, cracking, leaking from welds and any other defect that is not a result of misuse (bottoming out the car as an example). I got the master power turbo that is a name brand with warranty and also have a 1 year warranty on the BOV and Wastegate.

I will be installing everything next week when I have all my parts. After all i got 60lb injectors, calibrated M/A, Ford GT Supercar F/P, QA-1 Tubular K-Member w/coil over kit, AEM UEGO Wideband O2, and the On3 turbo kit. All for $3300! I don't think that I did too bad.

[5.0calypso93lx]

Just throwing a little jab at ya. All in fun!!

:bigthumb

[5.0calypso93lx]

I have read both and I talked to the guys up there and when picking it up they put it in writing a warranty that says if the piping goes bad in the first 5 years they will replace it. And if they don't I know where to find them and they know it. So I have no doubt that they will make it right. :)

There are alot of mixed threads on the internet all over the place about the on3 kits. Some people are very happy with them and have had them for a while and there are the people who bought kits from another place and say that the on3's kits are junk. Most everyone that I have talked to on different forums are happy with there kit.

Well as conclusion to this arguement ..... I have a 5 year warranty with the piping from corrosion, cracking, leaking from welds and any other defect that is not a result of misuse (bottoming out the car as an example). I got the master power turbo that is a name brand with warranty and also have a 1 year warranty on the BOV and Wastegate.

I will be installing everything next week when I have all my parts. After all i got 60lb injectors, calibrated M/A, Ford GT Supercar F/P, QA-1 Tubular K-Member w/coil over kit, AEM UEGO Wideband O2, and the On3 turbo kit. All for $3300! I don't think that I did too bad.

I'm sure the steel kits are fine. It's just the stainless you need to worry about. I'm not sure if they still carry the stainless for the new edge cars or not.

[NXcoupe]

I am getting ready to order our first kit from them. We are putting it onto a 98 GT, and it will be a mild tune, etc. I have to order the Kmember kit in, then after that's installed we are going to get the turbo kit in with the upgraded turbo. I want to see their quality and fitment. I have been toying with a turbo kit for one of my cars in the future, but I am still leaning towards having a local guy do mine up.
Great build! Can't wait to see this start coming together. did you sell the blower yet?

[Blackout]

yeah i sold the Novi Kit. The turbo kit is supposed to be a whole different kind of beast. From what i've read it will reach full spool between 2800 & 3100 rpms. It's going to be a blast.

[NXcoupe]

Well, if you decide to come back up, we can put a good load on it and get it to spool up so you don't get any surprises after it's tuned. lol.

[98mustanggt]

pics? or anymore info on the build

[Blackout]

I will post pictures in a couple days. I worked all weekend on the car and am well on my way to have it finished tomorrow. This has been a tiring install. Thanks to all interested.

[NXcoupe]

How well has it fit up? What are the good and bad of the kit?

[Blackout]

The fitment has been ok, but I have to still make some brackets to ensure that all the pipes are at proper clearance. I will take somw mor pics today and post them some time this evening

[Blackout]

ok here are some of the pics before the install. I will take some tonight that show some more of the suspension installed with the piping.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/869/imag0176g.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/imag0176g.jpg/)
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6791/imag0175r.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/imag0175r.jpg/)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8946/imag0174r.th.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/imag0174r.jpg/)

[Walter]

If thats stainless, you are hosed.

[Blackout]

most is stainless. but with what I have read most if not all the turbo kits being sold is stainless. here is a link to one of the placeing selling the Hellion kits. (supposed to be the best) http://www.headers4u.com/product/HPS9904/Hellion_9904_Mustang_GT_Turbo_Kit.html or http://www.uprproducts.com/hellion-96-98-gt-turbo.html. If I start having problems with the piping they game me a 5 year warranty on it and after it is installed it isn't that big of a deal to take off a section to replace or fix. I am not understanding what all the fuss is about.

It doesn't matter what you buy there are always going to be problems. If you race it...it will break. This is why racing is supposed to be a hobby not a lifestyle. I am excited to have the turbo kit for my car. It's going to be fun and I don't know of that many people that have the setups on a 99-04 Stang. It will be interesting when I get to take it to the track.

[NXcoupe]

I agree, just put it on and see how it goes. You have the right attitude, and I know you will enjoy when the turbo spools. You going to keep it a manual or go with an auto this time? You know turbo's love to spool against a trans brake. The kit looks really good, is that powdercoated or polished stainless?

[347sc]

Yeah really, If I based every purchase of parts off what someone thinks off the internet I would have never bought any.Lol Good luck and I would like to check it out myself since you are close.

[Blackout]

thanks NXCoupe and 347sc for the support. I am working 12 hours a day and finding time to work on the car and time for the family has been rough the last couple of days. 347sc you might want to wait a while before you come look, everyone here but me is sick with the bad flu. I have been living in quarenteen in the basement the last three days. lol. I will try to get some pics soon. I drove the car home tonight put together good enough to get home. The car ran like crap because of vaccuum lines off and some misc. things that need buttoned up. I brought it home because I am tired of running to Trenton every day:)

NXcoupe: I am staying with the manual trans for now. I am also glad I stayed with my stock gear.

[NXcoupe]

Oh, I bet! Yeah, a turbo loves that 3.27, but you may end up going to a 3.55 before it's all said and done. There is a bunch of torque with a turbo, but you may need a little gear to get it up in rpm quicker so it will build boost. Just a thought. I know my car ran fine with 3.27's in it, but I am going to see how a 3.73 works in it now. If you haven't seen my build thread, my vert is really coming along.
Can't wait to see the completed pics of this one and if you bring it by the shop, I know Ben would kill to see your car, as we are in the works of the same kit on his. He picked it out, and it's what he wants, so that's the direction we are heading.

[Blackout]

ok..update. I have pics but I am at work and have no way to attach them since I am posting with my phone. The turbo/piping install has been a challenge so I took it to a friend of mine and had him realign the piping (cut and paste) to make more clearances, so I didn't have any vibrations anywhere and if I for any reason had to take it off, I could put it all back on easily with out issues. BTW: turbo's sound cool as hell :)

[NXcoupe]

What kind of kit is this again? Plus I can't wait to see the pics man.

[Blackout]

it's the on3performance kit.

[NXcoupe]

Cool, so what did you have to modify on it? We are getting ready to do this very same kit.

[Blackout]

the exhaust pipes that run on the sides through the k-member were riding on the k-member. I used a QA1 setup with UPR coil over kit. I am not sure if it is the kit or the k-member that was the problem but I had to have the pipes realigned to get it off the k-member. Also the kit has brackets that are made to brace the kit to the sway bar brackets. I had them cut off and braced everything to the engine so that i wouldn't have to use solid motor mounts right away.

[NXcoupe]

good idea. We are using a granatelli piece because that's what they recommend with the kit. I don't like GMS stuff, but hey, it's not my car either! That's what he wants and that's what we will put on it. Can't wait to see this thing, post up pics!

[Mustard]

sounds like its going to be a fun car

[nsaniti]

glad to hear everythings coming together nicely for you. get it all worked out cant wait to see it :]

[Blackout]

well the original picks corrupted for some reason but I did get these: I will have it up on a lift in a couple days to work on my water meth kit.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/662/1020795.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/1020795.jpg/)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2167/1020794.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/1020794.jpg/)

[NXcoupe]

It looks like it has room for an air filter too? Pretty cool looking kit. Can't wait to see the rest of the pics of it.

[Blackout]

have you guys started on that guys kit yet you were talking about?

[NXcoupe]

Nope, going to get it ordered sometime before the end of the year I'm thinking. How's yours feel, any lag?

[Stolly113]

Ha Ha Stock Throttle Body and intake plenum that would have been a good way to get some more hp without costing $3,300. lol How soon till the suspension work and rear end build? lol

[Blackout]

Nope, going to get it ordered sometime before the end of the year I'm thinking. How's yours feel, any lag?

no lag, but now need a short block. I was with my brother in-law the other day getting it tuned in and it was pulling extremely hard. Air/Fuel looked awesome and everything else was extremely close to being right. Well out driving it and playing around the car all of a sudden started running like I blew a pipe off somewhere. Found out that I popped a piston after taking out the #1 plug. :eek: ohhh-well............looks like I will be building a shortblock and turning up the boost:evilgrin:. This just gave me an excuse to build something stupid. I knew it would happen and I am not suprised or pissed about it (but my wife is furious to say the least, I will be having to watch my P & Q's to stay completly out of the dog house now). Come next sping, everything will be done and it shold be a blast.

[Blackout]

Ha Ha Stock Throttle Body and intake plenum that would have been a good way to get some more hp without costing $3,300. lol How soon till the suspension work and rear end build? lol

just so you know that is a Lightning 75mm Throttle Body, and the upper plennom has been ported and there is also an intake spacer :)

[NXcoupe]

If you need any help, just get with me. I'm sorry to hear that, would have thought you would have put it on the dyno to get a good safe tune for it. Those shortblocks don't take much power at all. A cobra crank, good set of rods, and a good set of probe or dss pistons and you are set for good power. That block is great for high hp, same as a cobra block,03-04

[nsaniti]

sorry to hear, if you need help id be more than willing and im not far .. let me know.

[Blackout]

Yeah the car was pulling like it was on steriods from hell. Turbo's definately make a difference. The tune was dead on and it was making more power than it ever did before, but at a price. :) o-well, that's why now it won't be out til spring time, but when it does......it will be fun.

[Da Natti]

Kit looks awesome sorry to hear about the engine, I blew the intercooler pipe off my turbo kit a couple times. I would have figured it would last a bit longer than it did though. What PSI where you running?

[Blackout]

only 5lbs. but the engine had alot of abuse from the novi. i figured that it would eventually do something. like I said...time for a shortblock and 15-20lb of boost :)

[nsaniti]

only 5lbs. but the engine had alot of abuse from the novi. i figured that it would eventually do something. like I said...time for a shortblock and 15-20lb of boost :)

and a tko500 -_-:lol: