people cant keep it to themselves

[94stangergt]

ok maybe im overeacting but some of the people on this site piss me off i was in the nube section and was introducing my self and i said that my would would run hight thirteens my car was strong stock mustang then i put a jet chip in it one of those cold air intakes and a 4:10 gear now im not saying at all that its a decendent from the top fuel dragster gods but its a strong runner out of the whole now and these guys on here are calln me a liar maybe im wrong about the times but cmon guys were all on a mustang site you shouldnt put down the guys that represent with you i mean i wouldnt care if they hadnt started talkn shit about my car i mean i think i have the right to be pissed the fuck off.

[Paul408Notch]

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[djom1cincy]

Don't worry about it man. Post up a time slip or back it up in the spring then you will shut the doubters up. Welcome to the site.

[306Power]

Nobody was trying to be a dick in the Newbies section. That being said you do have to learn what your car can and cant do. Stay around for awhile, read up some things and you'll learn what your car can and cant do. There was a time when I thought a stock Mustang was fast as well.

[rpppaprp]

On the other hand, a lot of people on here assume that all members know everything about cars. I love how when you make a comment on here that is questionable, some people are very quick to act like you are stupid. If half the people on this site rode in a really fast car, they would realize their cars are nowhere near as fast as they like to think. Give the guy a break. Try making him feel welcome to the site. I know a few members on here that are too quick to make fun of other people, huh paul408notch?

[INSANEBA]

Dont read into it too much bud, just make it run the number you want and be happy with it! Ahh, I too remember the days of a fast stocker lol. Check out qtr mile rocket's post on here, he dipped into the 12's with a stock hci combo and suspension weight reduction on his fox. Made for good reading to me atleast! Oh and welcome aboard!

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Let it go man. Some people dump loads of money into their cars and they never run what they think it should and so they're the expert bench racer and want to shoot down everyone who thinks they'll run what they WISH they were running.

When my car went 12.8 with an old and busted 302 with 351 heads and an X cam, you should've seen the guys in the pits accusing me of hiding nitrious. When i pulled off my breather and showed them my carb and intake, and asked them to show me where the nozzles and solenoids and plumbing is...they got even more pissed. When i was on the rear bumper of a 454 powered '69 Camaro on the next pass...people left me alone after that.

Bench racing is one thing....but i think some people get defensive because maybe they HAVE been in the racing scene long enough to just know that if a car only has X amount of mods and typically weighs X amount of weight (such as a '94 vert does) then the odds are just against you that the car will run that. I also do think a lot of people think their car is really fast when in fact it's just the fastest thing THEY have ever driven and so they don't realize just how slow their car is (no insult intended...).

That said....the simple solution is to just show time slips. That's usually the end all be all ender to the debate. Of course they could be someone else's time slips but that's another argument.

[SpoonyGT]

Whoa you got mad. Chill man just stating a opinion have some thick skin still welcome to the site. I just hate bench racing.

[9cobra4]

The reason why everyone told you you were lying is, well, because you are, not trying to be a dick, but you said "I break 13's all day". There is no possible way in this world you ran a 13 in a near stock 94 vert gt. Even the new edge gt's need a mod or two to get into the 13's, especially a vert.

I read this thread before I did your intro, at first I was thinking I was just a bunch of idiots picking on a noob. I was wrong, its a noob telling guys that have ran 14's in cars with more power than you, guys that have actually been to the track, that your stock 215hp heavy ass vert gt runs 13's..I don't feel bad for you like some of these guys. Don't come in here telling guys that have been modding these heaps we drive for years that you can go 2 seconds faster than you should with a shifter,"jet?" Chip and gears.

[mustangrfast88]

sorry man if seemed like a dick in newbie section, i was just saying i got a 90 lx vert and now how it runs. a 94 is heavier and there are alot of guys on here that can make the car run like you want to run. my car went a 14.79

[87stangbbb]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[inferno50]

cant we all just be friends.lol

[331TwistedWedge]

im trying to put a heavy 95 vert in the 12s ... all stock except for my danny bee! :lol:

[juiced347]

i went 13.7s with a stock 95 gt with a cold air and 80 shot

[may93]

I think the new guy struck a nerve with a few members without meaning too. Unless a person has actually raced a car at the track and went 13's it can be insulting to those that have done more to their cars and yet only went 14's. Not to mention the fact regardless of what your car shoulda or coulda run its what it does run. I've seen 11 second cars go 13's due to traction issues, or even a unexperienced driver who bought the car and then brags how fast his car is based off of what it ran for the previous owner. The bad thing about bench racing is evenually you have to back it up. Go faster then you figured and everyones happy, but say 12's and then run 14's well expect to be dogged. I've out raced quite a few cars that on paper were faster then my Mustang. My sons 94 GT went 13.46 at 101mph and that was with a lot of tuning and plenty of bolt on mods and a conversion to 5/speed. Completely stock with a automatic it ran 15.90's. The biggest improvement was the time he spent at the friday night test and tune learning to drive the car to its full potential. Myself I'd tell you my car was mostly stock and then leave you wandering how and the hell it went that fast.

Welcome newbie and dont worry if you dont go 13's theres plenty of members to help you get there..

[sean]

Just remember, its not always how fast you go but getting better at going fast. I hope to see you at the track this year and hope you stay a while and get to know us. Theres a lot of learning and fun to be had here. Lots of good go fast parts at good prices that will get you as fast or as frustrated as you want to be.

[MrsAPE]

I think we should all hold hands and sing!! :yup:

[jlt2006]

I think we should all hold hands and sing!! :yup:

You just kill me sometimes.:lol:

Back on topic.
Don't get to worked up by what these guys say. It's not worth losing sleep over.

[1992MustangDW]

You will come to see there are a handful of people on this board that do alot of shit talking for no reason. You will become to ignore them just like the rest of us.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I've seen 11 second cars go 13's due to traction issues

Dude tell me about it :lol:


For the longest time my car wouldn't get out of the 14s because i was on crappy half bald street tires (talk about racing on a tight budget). The first time out on drag radials...didn't know what i was doing...dropped the hammer at 4k and spun like crazy and probably looked like a retard coming off the line sideways...it still went 13.7 so i finally got the proof that my car was at least a 13.50 car if it would've ever hooked good.

Then i swap heads and cam and go back...burn out my traction lock and i'm peg leggin it. Still coming off the line sideways and kicking out sideways in 2nd. Finally break into the 12s but i still felt like that combo was at least 12.5 or faster.

Now the whole thing is literally like 2x as fast and there's no way in hell it's gonna hook, and if it does something is going to break.

[rpppaprp]

Hey 9cobra4. I would like to know how you seem to know the guy is lying. One of my friends had a near stock 89 GT vert that ran 13.80 all day long. Also e calling someone a liar, you need to understand what nearly stock is. One mans nearly stock is probably what you are used to calling built.

[nsaniti]

Hey 9cobra4. I would like to know how you seem to know the guy is lying. One of my friends had a near stock 89 GT vert that ran 13.80 all day long. Also e calling someone a liar, you need to understand what nearly stock is. One mans nearly stock is probably what you are used to calling built.

i believe we're talking about a 94 gt vert..apples to oranges.. jussayin :rolleyes:

[Yellow98Cobra]

I do not think it is worth all the bashing.. not like the guy said he had an 12 second ride. Shit I had a 3rd gen Trans Am which was a pig from the factory, had 3.70 gear, chip and exhaust and under drive pulleys which I would consider the car to be pretty much stock and it went 13.90's.

[RACEME]

I can add to this. My 95 gt went 13.51 on drag radials with no weight reduction and a bone stock motor from throttle body to oil pan. It had bolt ons, full exhaust and 3:55 gears. I have hundreds of passes in the 13.6-7 range on that setup.

It went 14.55 off the show room floor on street tires.

I see no reason why a good tuned stock car with gears and tires can't go 13's even if it is a vert.

my.02

[93snake]

94stangergt , dont let people get under your skin. I agree with some of the others, just put up some timeslips in the spring an show them what you and your vert can do. In the mean time, enjoy the site.

[black90lx]

i had a 2000gt that was completely stock except k&n filter and flowmaster mufflers welded in, factory h-pipe with the factory cats and it went 13.7 with a 1.87 60ft @98 mph on street tires. the tires were toyo proxy's. that is stock from the the rubber intake tube to the mufflers, a stock gear and stock suspension. you just gotta learn how to drive them.

[facemelter71]

Shit my all stock 88 Reliant went 13.7

[black90lx]

Shit my all stock 88 Reliant went 13.7

there always has to be a funnt guy. here is a pic of it.

[stocknotch]

Shit my all stock 88 Reliant went 13.7

Probably the fastest you've ever been.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

i had a 2000gt that was completely stock except k&n filter and flowmaster mufflers welded in, factory h-pipe with the factory cats and it went 13.7 with a 1.87 60ft @98 mph on street tires. the tires were toyo proxy's. that is stock from the the rubber intake tube to the mufflers, a stock gear and stock suspension. you just gotta learn how to drive them.

I'm pretty sure a '00 GT is a tad faster stock vs. stock than a '94 GT. Hell i'd say they're probably about neck and neck with the '94-95 Cobras.

[331TwistedWedge]

those 94-95 verts weigh 3850lbs stock ... shawns vert stock was low 15's ... it went 13.59 with windsor jr's, 1.6 rockers and a sissey max ... kept the ac and smog ... those things are pigs!

[rpppaprp]

That is one Bad Ass Reliant. Something you dont see everyday either.

[94stangergt]

okok wen spring comes the slips will be up edgewater here we come

[9cobra4]

Well, rpppaarparprparparp, if he's not lying, then something is wrong with my car. My car went 12.60's with a 306, canfield heads,2.02 1.60, x-cam, 10:5:1 c/r, long tubes, x pipe, 3:73's and a bunch of other shit, and it only went a second faster than the op's gt with a shifter gears and a chip. I guess I should sell my car and buy a car with 100+ less rwhp and go just a second slower. I don't believe it.

[RACEME]

Well, rpppaarparprparparp, if he's not lying, then something is wrong with my car. My car went 12.60's with a 306, canfield heads,2.02 1.60, x-cam, 10:5:1 c/r, long tubes, x pipe, 3:73's and a bunch of other shit, and it only went a second faster than the op's gt with a shifter gears and a chip. I guess I should sell my car and buy a car with 100+ less rwhp and go just a second slower. I don't believe it.

If you have the 310 horses your sig says you have, then you have alot of driving to learn. There are TONS of people running 11.80's to 12.20's with those mods.

[facemelter71]

Probably the fastest you've ever been.

Probly the fastest the K car has ever been.

[Markcore]

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[thecollector]

My 95 GT coupe could only muster a 14.6. 5spd car bone stock with bumped timing pulled silencer and K&N. 3.08 gear. 23mpg's with 150k miles. Regular shifting (cause I'd rather drive it till 200k) leaving at 2800 on Toyo proxes.

Those cars are heavy, posting a video in March is the only way to shut down the Naysayers.

On the above mentioned pass I beat out an 00'ish LS1 6spd T-top car cause the kid behind the wheel spent more time gelling his hair then learning to shift gears:).

[9cobra4]

If you have the 310 horses your sig says you have, then you have alot of driving to learn. There are TONS of people running 11.80's to 12.20's with those mods.

Well some fat bald guy was driving, steve something???:D

And it was on 17" chrome cobra r's with mickeys, the only weight reduction is corbeau seats and a rear seat delete.

[93mustang]

so im goin to add to this. i consider myself a decent driver. not good but decent. i have a 93 fox with 410 rwhp and nitto dr's attached. i only got 12.60 this past year. maybe the guy can drive??? im guessing if 310 horses can get 11.8-12.2's my decent driving is shitty driving! it might be possible to go 13's, just not all the time. if it happens, tape it and post it

[94stangergt]

before I bought the 94 vet I had a 91 hatch nitto slicks skinnies in front 3:55 gear Hartman intake stroked to a 306 10:1s under drive pulleys a/c delete termed tyranny torque boxes were reinforced after I tore them out long tubes traction bars car had serious ass to it now saying this I had time slips from the previous owner never raced it as I said the torque boxes were shot as they were reinforced never wanted to take the chance to race it before I got it the car was running between 12:30s and 12:90s depending if I would grab which you all would know is the most important part of the race now all imp saying is a second is allot in drag racing which as experienced as you are u already know that its not hard to believe that a 94 chipped geared and I cold air intake to break a 13.9 isn’t that unrealistic hell any newer get from 2000 and up were breaking 14.5s with I believe 260hp with 3.08s. and or 3.27s i may not be able to crack of thirteens but im in low fourteens for sure hopfully for my arguments sake.

[94stangergt]

srry i never raced it mistake they owner before me when i got it i finished the boxes off

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

so im goin to add to this. i consider myself a decent driver. not good but decent. i have a 93 fox with 410 rwhp and nitto dr's attached. i only got 12.60 this past year. maybe the guy can drive??? im guessing if 310 horses can get 11.8-12.2's my decent driving is shitty driving! it might be possible to go 13's, just not all the time. if it happens, tape it and post it


Some of it is the driver, some of it is the car and how it's set up. I've seen 300rwhp cars going high 11s while others are going 13s with that power. Then i've seen 500hp cars going 12s. You've gotta use the power efficiently.

[may93]

Dont worry newbie their just bustin your balls. Get to the track in the spring and see what it runs. If it runs 13's great. And if not, so what. A low 14 second car is fast also. Talking about how fast your car is before racing it always leads to controversy. This thread is proof to that! Now if you really want to piss off a fellow racer just wait for them to tell you all their modifications, how fast their car went, and you then ask, thats it?:AR15:



srry i never raced it mistake they owner before me when i got it i finished the boxes off

[rpppaprp]

Some cars also run better than others from the factory. One of my friends had a strong running street car with a mild engine, 5 speed, and 4.10 gears. We were in Hillsboro one night and a guy with an automatic car with only a gear change (3.55) busted our ass. It wasnt due to driver error because the guy in the 5 speed car took off damn near perfect, the car hooked hard, and the automatic car busted his ass. If you think thats a lie, contact Chad Unger (jimssvt knows who im talking about). He was driving the 5 speed car and they raced at least 3 times because there was no way Chad could believe an automatic car could beat him.

[rpppaprp]

Well, rpppaarparprparparp, if he's not lying, then something is wrong with my car. My car went 12.60's with a 306, canfield heads,2.02 1.60, x-cam, 10:5:1 c/r, long tubes, x pipe, 3:73's and a bunch of other shit, and it only went a second faster than the op's gt with a shifter gears and a chip. I guess I should sell my car and buy a car with 100+ less rwhp and go just a second slower. I don't believe it.

I have a hard time believing your car doesnt run better than that, but with the mods you have and more practice, you should be in the 11's. If not, spray the hell out of it. Ha Ha.

[1992MustangDW]

Well, rpppaarparprparparp, if he's not lying, then something is wrong with my car. My car went 12.60's with a 306, canfield heads,2.02 1.60, x-cam, 10:5:1 c/r, long tubes, x pipe, 3:73's and a bunch of other shit, and it only went a second faster than the op's gt with a shifter gears and a chip. I guess I should sell my car and buy a car with 100+ less rwhp and go just a second slower. I don't believe it.

sn95n/a when he just had gear tuned and intake. ran 13.8 has on video somewhere. I will see if I can find it.

[9cobra4]

I would love to see my car go 11's, but just don't see it happening with the 3300+ race weight.

[Gene]

before I bought the 94 vet I had a 91 hatch nitto slicks skinnies in front 3:55 gear Hartman intake stroked to a 306 10:1s under drive pulleys a/c delete termed tyranny torque boxes were reinforced after I tore them out long tubes traction bars car had serious ass to it now saying this I had time slips from the previous owner never raced it as I said the torque boxes were shot as they were reinforced never wanted to take the chance to race it before I got it the car was running between 12:30s and 12:90s depending if I would grab which you all would know is the most important part of the race now all imp saying is a second is allot in drag racing which as experienced as you are u already know that its not hard to believe that a 94 chipped geared and I cold air intake to break a 13.9 isn’t that unrealistic hell any newer get from 2000 and up were breaking 14.5s with I believe 260hp with 3.08s. and or 3.27s i may not be able to crack of thirteens but im in low fourteens for sure hopfully for my arguments sake.

Spelling, punctuation and coherency go miles as far as enhancing your credibility.

Quite honestly, I don't care what you're saying because I'm not going to read something 5 times just so I can decipher your writing.

[mustang8998]

Spelling, punctuation and coherency go miles as far as enhancing your credibility.

Quite honestly, I don't care what you're saying because I'm not going to read something 5 times just so I can decipher your writing.

But, you're just picky! :lol:

[SpoonyGT]

Jeeeeseee. Ok fine wanna race another vert? No clue what mine will run we can go from a 40, 20, and dig k?

[9cobra4]

Jeeeeseee. Ok fine wanna race another vert? No clue what mine will run we can go from a 40, 20, and dig k?

Are you sure? I mean he's got a factory FREAK. :lol:

[blown86lx]

If you have the 310 horses your sig says you have, then you have alot of driving to learn. There are TONS of people running 11.80's to 12.20's with those mods.

+1 im no prodrag racer but I think hes got a point

[9cobra4]

+1 im no prodrag racer but I think hes got a point

He might, i'd like to see a slip of someone running 11's or low 12's with a setup like mine at 3300+lbs...

[RACEME]

He might, i'd like to see a slip of someone running 11's or low 12's with a setup like mine at 3300+lbs...

Take a look at a guy named killercanary over on stangnet or corral. He has a 95 vert that went 11's with a factory shortblock, eldebrock heads and intake, FTI cam along with all the other mods like you have. He was 3500 lbs.

Also take a look here http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=758474&highlight=fastest
Post #34 has the same mods as you (almost) at 3250lbs.

If you really want to know, have your dad arrange to let Ian make a few passes in your car. That will let you know if your car has more in it.

[may93]

I see the thread where they claim 11's but with a 95 vert. 3500lbs and just minor mods i'd like to see it actually run the numbers. Theres some Nitrous involved or someone is bench racing. Have him post a few time slips with the 60ft and mph times.

3500 lbs cars with only 300 horsepower dont go 11's.

[may93]

I see the thread where they claim 11's but with a 95 vert. 3500lbs and just minor mods i'd like to see it actually run the numbers. Theres some Nitrous involved or someone is bench racing. Have him post a few time slips with the 60ft and mph times.

3500 lbs cars with only 300 horsepower dont go 11's.

Heres a site that has some generic references but it shows that some of the claims people are making are not accurate.

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html#1

http://www.musclecarclub.com/library/race/quarter-mile-conversion.shtml