Okay, this is getting ridiculous....

[NaomiDstangLvr]

I'm not sure whats going on with these cops now, or is it the criminals that are getting so out of hand that the police have to go to such measures. But on a boy?

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20100122/NEWS01/301220076/

[bestracing]

Kilgore said a supervisor that was at the scene said the boy was “twice the size of the officer that Tased him.”

“They clearly thought he was older than 12,” Kilgore said.

Hell yea I'd tase him. Acting up and uncontrolable he gets what coming to him.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I'm not sure how i feel about this. I've known a lot of big corn fed 12 year old boys who could put a hurtin on a grown man. He probably should've tried other methods before he tased him though.

[sean]

Teach the kids EARLY. Dont listen the the police.... your going to get hurt. I hope they tazed him again while he was laying on the ground.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I do think kids these days have little respect for police. It's one thing to stand up for your rights but it's pretty stupid to start crap with a guy who has 1) a gun 2) a club 3) probably mace 4) a taser 5) handcuffs and 6) a radio to call for backup if he can't beat your ass himself.

[may93]

If your a Police Officer who has to Tazer a 12 year old child to control them then you might be in the wrong profession. If that was my son that police officer would be out a job and the city would be broke for years. I've worked with convicted felons for years and have controlled many forceful situations without a Tazer. In most cases I support the Law enforcement officers as they put their life on the line each day. However in this situation its a Police Officer who needs to find a different line of work. If you cant control a child without utilizing a Tazer then what are you going to do when you respond to a bar fight? Pull your handgun and shoot both suspects?

[mustang8998]

If your a Police Officer who has to Tazer a 12 year old child to control them then you might be in the wrong profession. If that was my son that police officer would be out a job and the city would be broke for years. I've worked with convicted felons for years and have controlled many forceful situations without a Tazer. In most cases I support the Law enforcement officers as they put their life on the line each day. However in this situation its a Police Officer who needs to find a different line of work. If you cant control a child without utilizing a Tazer then what are you going to do when you respond to a bar fight? Pull your handgun and shoot both suspects?


A supervisor that was at the scene said the boy was “twice the size of the officer that Tased him,” according to Kilgore.

“They clearly thought he was older than 12,” Kilgore said. His name will not be released because he is a juvenile.

There are no age restrictions when it comes to police using Tasers on children in Cincinnati, according to CPD policy.

I think you would have a hard time, getting rid of the cop. Looks like all the bases are covered.

I do think, that LEOs are using the tazers more than necessary, in all instances.

[JA04GT]

All i can say is i was over 6' tall when i was 12 and my dad still handed me my a$$ a couple times, and he is only 5' 8. Sounds like a parenting problem to me.

[306Power]

If your a Police Officer who has to Tazer a 12 year old child to control them then you might be in the wrong profession.

Couldnt agree more. It has nothing to do with this generation of kids, the older people always say "Its these damn kids these days." No, its those older people that didnt or cant teach their kids right from wrong.

[Mista Bone]

The kid that was tazed was 5' 10" and 200+ lbs.

Thats a BIG 8th grader!

Now maybe the cop could have thought the kid was from another school and there to cause trouble???

[99Slobra]

If it got the the point where the officer used the taser can you imagine if he hadn't?

Imagine if the officer had gone to take the suspect down and things had gone wrong then.

[87stangbbb]

worthless fucking cop i hope the boy's dad pays him a visit

[Mista Bone]

worthless 8th grader that likely has no father not listening to the police.

[Kid_Money]

worthless 8th grader that likely has no father not listening to the police.

Worthless 8th grader? Well listen to you, all high and mighty.. It's a 12 year old kid, no matter how big he is.. You are a worthless 40 year old, but I'm sure nobody would want to see you get tazered for no reason.. And why does he not have a father? There are lot's of people who don't listen to the police that were raised really well.. You are just an ignorant fuck...

[87stangbbb]

worthless 8th grader that likely has no father not listening to the police.
well if he don't have a father i doubt thats his fault. let me guess you would enjoy tazing kids?

[Kid_Money]

You guys should read the comments..They are great!!

[Kid_Money]

well if he don't have a father i doubt thats his fault. let me guess you would enjoy tazing kids?

The only thing he would like better is being drunk.. Or maybe tazing kids while drunk...

[87stangbbb]

lmfao

[Waffles]

I should probably not comment on this at all because I'm probably just going to piss people off.


worthless fucking cop i hope the boy's dad pays him a visit

Yeah, that's smart. That's probably EXACTLY what's wrong with the punk in the first place... the kids parents.



He was charged with disorderly conduct and assault on a police officer and is being held at the juvenile detention center, Kilgore said.

I can tell ya that if I had assaulted a police officers, the taser is the LAST thing I'd have been worried about once my dad had gotten a hold of my ass. I'd be begging for the taser again.


I do think kids these days have little respect for police. It's one thing to stand up for your rights but it's pretty stupid to start crap with a guy who has 1) a gun 2) a club 3) probably mace 4) a taser 5) handcuffs and 6) a radio to call for backup if he can't beat your ass himself.

....or respect for anyone or anything, not just cops. Society teaches people NOTHING about personal responsibility anymore. It's all about do whatever you want and we'll blame other people. Now, I'm a firm believer in that "there are no bad kids, only bad parents" but when faced with one of these kids you just have to deal with the situation at hand.

The people here who feel bad for this kid getting tased, instead of having a problem with the cop, you ought to be having a problem with the kids parents. A 6 foot 200lb 12 year old attacks me? I'd feel better about tasing him than throwin him a beating. I feel bad for the kid because he's learned to behave in a way that required him being tased. This idea the it's the cop's fault, well... you people are what's wrong with society in the first place.

[stocknotch]

It's this simple.....Don't break the law and you usually don't have anything to worry about. When you knowingly break the law, whatever happens to you while they're resolving the situation is on you.

[Waffles]

It's this simple.....Don't break the law and you usually don't have anything to worry about. When you knowingly break the law, whatever happens to you while they're resolving the situation is on you.

Amen, truly simple. I can't imagine attacking a cop, much less when I was 12.

[Kid_Money]

Amen, truly simple. I can't imagine attacking a cop, much less when I was 12.

It never said he attacked a cop.. He was already in a fight when the cop showed up.. The cop probably tried to break it up, he didn't stop immediately, she thought he was older than he was, and tazed him.. I'd bet she never even gave him a chance before she tazed him...

[Kid_Money]

It's this simple.....Don't break the law and you usually don't have anything to worry about. When you knowingly break the law, whatever happens to you while they're resolving the situation is on you.

So you get caught street racing and the cop pulls you out of the car and tazes and maces you, you deserved because you were breaking the law? You wouldn't be so quick to stand up for the cop if it was you or your family this happened to...

[Waffles]

It never said he attacked a cop.. He was already in a fight when the cop showed up.. The cop probably tried to break it up, he didn't stop immediately, she thought he was older than he was, and tazed him.. I'd bet she never even gave him a chance before she tazed him...

Okay, just swap "attack" for "assault." The kid was charged with assaulting a police officer. Mincing words is kinda silly.


So you get caught street racing and the cop pulls you out of the car and tazes and maces you, you deserved because you were breaking the law? You wouldn't be so quick to stand up for the cop if it was you or your family this happened to...

Come on, that's a completely idiotic comparison. Grow up.

Maybe if you were caught street racing and the cop spiked your tires, yes you deserved it; impounded your car, yes you deserved it; etc. Something that's actually related might make just a little more sense. Kid assaults cop, kid gets tased, yes he deserves it. (Although, this was very likely not an issue of "deserving it" since it wasn't punishment but a method of control.)

You didn't address this to me, but I'm going to respond anyway. I have no family member (immediate, anyway) who would have assaulted a police officer without some pretty incredible extenuating circumstances. This circumstance simply would never apply. If it did, you can bet that taser would be the least of his worries. That's the difference.

[98stangv6]

I have spent numerous hours shadowing School Resource Officers (SROs), which are basically cops that are placed into high schools. You would be surprised what kids are capabale of at young ages. I personally have seen kids literally stab other kids in the neck with pencils, chain fights, etc. I don't think this cop was in the wrong at all. This was not some 4'5" 100 pound kid. Oh and on a side note, didn't a 15 year old and 12 year old girl just rob a bank recently?

[Kid_Money]

Okay, just swap "attack" for "assault." The kid was charged with assaulting a police officer. Mincing words is kinda silly.



Come on, that's a completely idiotic comparison. Grow up.

Maybe if you were caught street racing and the cop spiked your tires, yes you deserved it; impounded your car, yes you deserved it; etc. Something that's actually related might make just a little more sense. Kid assaults cop, kid gets tased, yes he deserves it. (Although, this was very likely not an issue of "deserving it" since it wasn't punishment but a method of control.)

You didn't address this to me, but I'm going to respond anyway. I have no family member (immediate, anyway) who would have assaulted a police officer without some pretty incredible extenuating circumstances. This circumstance simply would never apply. If it did, you can bet that taser would be the least of his worries. That's the difference.

He allegedly attacked her.. He has yet to be convicted of anything.. Ever occur to you he was charged with that to justify being tazed? I'm sure the possibility that the cop is lying about what happened never occured in your perfect world where cops never do anything wrong. Like I said, if it was you or your family, opinions would be very different....

[98stangv6]

He allegedly attacked her.. He has yet to be convicted of anything.. Ever occur to you he was charged with that to justify being tazed? I'm sure the possibility that the cop is lying about what happened never occured in your perfect world where cops never do anything wrong. Like I said, if it was you or your family, opinions would be very different....

Tazed for no reason? That's doubtful. Being a school, this was bound to make the news, therefore I doubt it would not have been done if the force was not necessary. Many of the officers that I know or have done ride alongs with are hesitant about using force or their tazers due to instances such as this. They do what is necessary (ie. using a tazer on someone that clearly needed it) and then the media has a field day, presents it with their bias twist, then sits back and lets the shock value increase their ratings as the public is then outraged. Just because the kid is 12 years old does not mean they are not capable of some extremely physical damage.

[98stangv6]

Also, look at it from this perspective, forget that the alleged perpetrator is age 12. An officer is flagged down and then encounters two individuals fighting. The officer attempts to put a halt to the fighting. However one of the males which is 5'10" 200+ pounds does not cooperate, instead begins to assault the officer which is half his size. The officer proceeds to use necessary force to subdue the perpetrator. Would this have been a big deal or made a top story on the news? I highly doubt it. It is being exploited because of the males age. I know young teens that look a hell of a lot older than they are. As the perpertator was disregarding all commands and the officer was being assaulted (I know, it's still allegedly), should he/she have taken a minute and asked the attacker what his age was? Maybe the officer should have asked the individual to see an ID before using the taser?

[Mista Bone]

He allegedly attacked her.. He has yet to be convicted of anything.. Ever occur to you he was charged with that to justify being tazed? I'm sure the possibility that the cop is lying about what happened never occured in your perfect world where cops never do anything wrong. Like I said, if it was you or your family, opinions would be very different....

Lets spin it your way........if a bunch of Middletucky "street racers" get in a heated dispute over a race afterwards, a cop shows up trying to calm the whole pushing match down, someone doesn't see they cop and pushes the cop, that person WILL get charged with assaulting an officer. Said cop instead of breaking out a gun or billy club, uses a taser...aka non-lethal force to protect themselves and get the whole thing under control.

Lets flip 180.......

MAYBE the kid, big for his age was trying to calm the fight down and break it up, but when the cops showed up, he tried to tell them he'll handle it and got caught in the middle.

I will say this.....seems the story is being buried on local news websites as of right now, it was all over the 11 PM news.

did find this.........

http://www.wlwt.com/video/22318088/index.html

[ADaughen]

I watched a kid get maced in High School. He thought it'd be cool to throw a punch at the DARE officer. BIG dude. Officer took him DOWN. Kid was still fighting with a knee in his back and 200+ lbs of officer trying to hand cuff him. Out came the mace. About 10 kids had to get cleaned up from the spray. Sometimes mace isn't the right tool on the belt.

Tazers put them down and fast. I'm 6'3" 225 and I'd have done it if I thought the threat was real enough.

You don't assault police officers, especially with witnesses nearby.

[87stangbbb]

i just think an adult especially a cop should be able to handle a kid without lethal force

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

It's funny how people are always talking about cops being assholes. I've only ever once had an encounter with a cop that i'd call an asshole.

Short story....back before 275 west bound was 3 lanes, they were doing construction for like 3 years. I worked off Fields Ertle Rd and i started work at 4am. One day i was running late. As i came through the construction area, all the barrels where moved off the road and no crews where out so i went ahead and i did 65mph on the money even though it was technically 55 or 50 or whatever it is. I figured at least i was doing the regular speed limit. Sure enough, i get pulled over, highway patrol. He comes to my window and gives me the usual routine, i explain to him about 65mph and there being no barrels and no crew working and i was running late. He goes and runs my stuff. He comes back...and i kid you not, the ONLY thing he says is "slow your ass down" and THROWS my license at me (he came up on the passenger side of my car) and walks away. No written warning, no ticket.

He was kind of a dick, but hell i didn't get a ticket so i was still really thankful. My experience is that if you respect the police, they respect you. Of course, i'm sure that's not all encompassing and i also don't live in the city where i'm sure the cops are a little more high strung. I've never even been harassed for driving my Mustang and it's pretty loud and rowdy.

[denial]

Considering i am a police officer, i would have done what was necessary to subdue the 12 year old. Why would i pull my ASP out or gun out? Those are used primarily for deadly force situations. Being tased will not kill you. It is to gain control of the subject to stop the situation asap.

A kid of this size could easily look older than appeared. I find it funny sometimes how most people judge a police officer in what they do considering they have never been a cop. Bottom line is, if a 12 yr old kid or a grown man assaults me, i will do what is necessary to stop the situation.

[87stangbbb]

by the way people have died from being tased

[denial]

Not from the taser itself. It is usually the fall or they had some sort of heart condition.

[may93]

I was trying to find where in the article it mentions that the officer was a female. It did mention "they" which would mean more then one individual but then again that might have been in reference to the Police Department itself. Myself included I should wait to pass judgement until after all the facts are out but regardless how one looks at it its still a 12 year old kid. I will tell you anytime a Police officer uses force their going to charge you with assault and resisting arrest to justify their actions. That will in itself lead to serious jail time. More then likely most will drop thier complaints of an aggressive officer using excessive force on them just to get the assault charges removed. When your facing prison time the fact you were tazered or maced all of a sudden isnt so much of a complaint.

[Kid_Money]

I was trying to find where in the article it mentions that the officer was a female. It did mention "they" which would mean more then one individual but then again that might have been in reference to the Police Department itself. Myself included I should wait to pass judgement until after all the facts are out but regardless how one looks at it its still a 12 year old kid. I will tell you anytime a Police officer uses force their going to charge you with assault and resisting arrest to justify their actions. That will in itself lead to serious jail time. More then likely most will drop thier complaints of an aggressive officer using excessive force on them just to get the assault charges removed. When your facing prison time the fact you were tazered or maced all of a sudden isnt so much of a complaint.

Exactly....

[98stangv6]

I was trying to find where in the article it mentions that the officer was a female. It did mention "they" which would mean more then one individual but then again that might have been in reference to the Police Department itself. Myself included I should wait to pass judgement until after all the facts are out but regardless how one looks at it its still a 12 year old kid. I will tell you anytime a Police officer uses force their going to charge you with assault and resisting arrest to justify their actions. That will in itself lead to serious jail time. More then likely most will drop thier complaints of an aggressive officer using excessive force on them just to get the assault charges removed. When your facing prison time the fact you were tazered or maced all of a sudden isnt so much of a complaint.

This kid won't face any serious jail time at all. Juveniles get off extremely easily in most instances. I have literally seen instances where a cop has busted a young teen with a large amount of drugs on them and a loaded 9mm. The cop called the judge to see about taking them to D.J.J. However this particular judge does not believe it incarcerating minors, therefore he was simply released to his parents. This is how a lot of cases end up. Didn't a young teen just forcefully rape a 64 year old woman not too recently too?

[02mingryGT]

I've never even been harassed for driving my Mustang and it's pretty loud and rowdy.

I had an Evendale LEO follow me home last night so he could bullshit with me about my car. All in all LEO's are pretty cool if your respectful to them.

If I was an officer I'd taz about 100 people a day.

Pants on the ground? Tased

Driving a ricer? Tased

Words coming out of your mouth that's not acceptable spoken english? Tased

Looking at me all hard? Tased

Stanky ass breath? Tased

Disrespectful to your elders? Tased

Having more kids than you can possibly support? Tased

No High School Diploma or Good Enough Diploma? Tazed for stupidity

Calling me out to your shit hole residence because of some bullshit domestic shit? Your ass is Tased

I could go on forever but you get the idea

[87stangbbb]

yeah you seem pretty tough with a taser

[Brandon Alsept]

Little fucker got what he deserved. People need to respect the badge !!!!!

[djom1cincy]

I find this funny. If you don't want your kids tazed then teach them respect you whining ass holes. I would have tazed him and as he is on the ground crying I would have laughed and tazed him again and again till he pissed himself.

[Waffles]

He allegedly attacked her.. He has yet to be convicted of anything.. Ever occur to you he was charged with that to justify being tazed? I'm sure the possibility that the cop is lying about what happened never occured in your perfect world where cops never do anything wrong. Like I said, if it was you or your family, opinions would be very different....

You have got to be kidding me. If you're not kidding, you're a joke. What possible reason could the cop have had to lie? Think she just gets her rocks off tasing 12 year olds? Come on. You keep mentioning family, and I'm starting to wonder if this kid wasn't part of YOUR family. AND, I could give two shits if this kid was 12 or not. It's got nothing to do with his age, it's got to do with neutralizing him as a danger to other people. END OF STORY.

You can read some of my other posts to learn that I'm no fan of cops. I've had cops pull me over and search my car etc just to harass me. However, I can't even imagine the cop that's going to tase a kid in school for no good reason.

When I see the story come out that the cop was screwing the 12 year old kid and she tased him because she saw him talking to 5th grade girl and got jealous.... I'll apologize.


I find this funny. If you don't want your kids tazed then teach them respect you whining ass holes. I would have tazed him and as he is on the ground crying I would have laughed and tazed him again and again till he pissed himself.

lol...That might be a bit much, but I at least agree with the first part. :lol: Sicko

[Kid_Money]

You have got to be kidding me. If you're not kidding, you're a joke. What possible reason could the cop have had to lie? Think she just gets her rocks off tasing 12 year olds? Come on. You keep mentioning family, and I'm starting to wonder if this kid wasn't part of YOUR family. AND, I could give two shits if this kid was 12 or not. It's got nothing to do with his age, it's got to do with neutralizing him as a danger to other people. END OF STORY.

You can read some of my other posts to learn that I'm no fan of cops. I've had cops pull me over and search my car etc just to harass me. However, I can't even imagine the cop that's going to tase a kid in school for no good reason.

When I see the story come out that the cop was screwing the 12 year old kid and she tased him because she saw him talking to 5th grade girl and got jealous.... I'll apologize.



lol...That might be a bit much, but I at least agree with the first part. :lol: Sicko

You are obviously a moron and I'm done arguing with you...

[98stangv6]

You are obviously a moron and I'm done arguing with you...

No, your posts have all been speculations and ignorant opinions, you're a moron.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I got pulled over once on rt 32 in my Mustang the night i put the Tremec in it. I was going 50 in a 60 just babying it with a new clutch and got pulled over. He said i looked suspicious going slow and it was really late at night. Once we got that out of the way we sat and talked for a good half our about it being an ex police car and he wanted to know everything about it and looked at the engine. It was really cool seeing a cop let his guard down and be an average Joe.

[Waffles]

I got pulled over once on rt 32 in my Mustang the night i put the Tremec in it. I was going 50 in a 60 just babying it with a new clutch and got pulled over. He said i looked suspicious going slow and it was really late at night. Once we got that out of the way we sat and talked for a good half our about it being an ex police car and he wanted to know everything about it and looked at the engine. It was really cool seeing a cop let his guard down and be an average Joe.

.... and then he tased you? :lol:

Cops only tase 12 year old kids, the elderly, and puppies. :D Like in anything, there are good cops and bad. However, I'd venture to say not even the bad cops are gonna tase a 12 year old in school for no reason. I think Kid Money must have been tased in the head s a baby. :bigthumb

[DeckerEnt]

Ok. A cop has a choice when confronted. Before the tazer was available, there was a night stick, and a gun. The tazer is a middle of the road answer. It gives the cop another method to solve a situation. I will swear on a stack of bibles that I would rather be shot with a tazer than with a .40 cal Glock.
Did the cop know the ages of the people he/she walked up to? Probably not. Could the cop just run away finding out the guy was twice his/her size? No. The cop had to make a split second decision. I commend him/her for doing their job.

[Waffles]

I'd think the taser is actually a better choice than the club. Also, I keep going back to this, even if the officer KNEW the kid was 12, why does it matter? If she had an out of control 12 year old twice her size coming after her, or someone else, the taser should be an acceptable solution.

[Mista Bone]

You are obviously a moron and I'm done arguing with you...

no, you're just upset your daddy doesn't touch you anymore.


You've yet to provide an argument, just mindless BS.

[Mista Bone]

So "what if" when that 12 year old 8th grader grows up he becomes a common thief????

This just in from Las Vegas......


They really are the Greatest Generation

So we get a call to a home invasion. The details are that a door was kicked and someone is dead. We get to the house and there is a man, about 422 years old in a wheelchair. He has his trusty 1911 sitting on a table next to him, and there is a dead 20 something year old in his entrance. Seems that the kid kicked his door. The old guy is in his room and hears the bang of the door. He gets his pistol and goes out to investigate. The old man sees the kid in his house and tells him to leave. The kid basically tells the onld man to go fuck himself and starts walking towards him. Old man (he is a WWII vet), plugs him twice in the chest.


Or maybe after the taser he now has respect and ends up a proper/productive citizen?

[Kid_Money]

no, you're just upset your daddy doesn't touch you anymore.


You've yet to provide an argument, just mindless BS.

You are a spineless coward.. An absolute piece of shit. A stone cold still lives at home in his mom's basement drunken low life loser who can suck my dick. If you have a problem with me, you know how to find me. PM me your number, or get mine out of the for sale section, and lets talk about it. Or we can meet somewhere to talk about it. You can't hide forever you mindless faggot fuck.... :bigthumb

[Kid_Money]

No, your posts have all been speculations and ignorant opinions, you're a moron.

You have a V6 Mustang, so obviously you aren't the brightest crayon in the pack.. If I was a bitch, I'd probably drive one too...

[ADaughen]

Keep verbally attacking members here. You won't be around much longer.

[may93]

So was the officer involved positively identified as a small Female?

[98stangv6]

You have a V6 Mustang, so obviously you aren't the brightest crayon in the pack.. If I was a bitch, I'd probably drive one too...

Yep, I do. It's a perfect daily driver. Had it since I was 16, totally paid off. Instead of spending money on another car I decided to spend my money to get a BA degree (just graduated), invest in stock for the future, and I am about to put a down payment on a house. So yes, I do drive a stock v6 mustang and I am totally fine with that. Let's compare where we both are in about 5 years. :bigthumb

[98stangv6]

So was the officer involved positively identified as a small Female?

I don't think the officer was confirmed as a female officer by the department or news media. However I was listening to an AM radio show where the top was discussed and they had heard through the grapevine that the officer was female.

[may93]

I don't think the officer was confirmed as a female officer by the department or news media. However I was listening to an AM radio show where the top was discussed and they had heard through the grapevine that the officer was female.

I read the officer was assaulted but unharmed. Still the intent to cause harm could still be considered a assault. If the Police officer reacted by policy and procedures one would think they would be quick to respond because of the public opinion on force used on a child. It's been how many days and yet the gender of the officer has yet to be released. The gender of the officer is not as much the question, but more so their size which could explain their decison to use a tazer. A officer who weighs 200 lbs or more may not percieve the 12 year old as much a threat as an officer who weighs 145 lbs. The departments Public Information Officer should be releasing some kind of statement soon. If not the rumors could easily get out of control as this thread would be evidence.

[ADaughen]

I read the officer was assaulted but unharmed.



I could assault you and leave you unharmed. :fart:

It just means he pushed, kicked, punched, spat on, poked, etc, etc, said officer without doing any damage that required hospitalization.

[NaomiDstangLvr]

I agree, kids now a days have NO RESPECT what so EVER! And it's so sad too. We've always taught Gunnar to respect and be courteous to other people. And it really shows, everyone can't get over how polite he is, such a good boy...

[Mista Bone]

I agree, kids now a days have NO RESPECT what so EVER! And it's so sad too. We've always taught Gunnar to respect and be courteous to other people. And it really shows, everyone can't get over how polite he is, such a good boy...

Those kids today, their parents likely were too busy to pay them any attention and they grew up with video games as a babysitter.

Take time and play an old board game, like Life or Monopoly. INTERACT with the kids, it really makes a difference.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

eh, skipped the other comments, but... If I was pissed and BEATING someone to death, first off, someone needs to try and pull the fight apart, not get a taser. And thats from someone in a bad situation getting beat bad. Now if the officer was a little guy/women lol, then I could see them using a taser in a rought situation, but if its just a middle school fight, which typically is just kicking and screaming, rarely a bad fight, then idk why a taser was necessary.
But using a taser on a 12 yr old doesnt seem wrong to me, if they are trying to hurt an officer or someone else, then it might be the best way to take them down.

[JROUTLAW331]

OK NOW I HAVE DRAWN THE LINE...I DO NOT USUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO ALL THE CRAP THAT GETS SPOUTED FROM HALF THE GUYS ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF THE SHIT TALKERS DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK AND DO KNOW WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST READ UR POSTS AND LAUGH AT YOU.(IM NOT SAYING EVERYBODY ON HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE A SELECT GROUP OF "OLD SCHOOLERS" ON HERE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.)
NOW AS FAR AS THIS THREAD GOES.....FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT KNOW ME THIS IS ERIC AND I AM A COP AND I HAVE NEWS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE ON HERE THAT ARE SPOUTING THEIR IGNORANT NEGATIVE OPINIONS ABOUT THE POLICE. NONE OF YOU(UNLESS YOU ARE A COP AND DEAL WITH ALL THE SHIT THAT WE DEAL WITH DAY IN AND DAY OUT)HAVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN VOICE AN OPINION BECAUSE YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.ALOT OF THE KIDS WE DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS ARE TAUGHT TO RUN FROM,FIGHT AND DISOBEY THE POLICE WHEN EVER WE HAVE CONTACT WITH THEM..THEY ARE TAUGHT THAT BY THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THATS THE MENTALITY THAT THEIR PARENTS HAVE(WHICH IS FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN THESE KIDS GET OUT OF CONTROL THE PARENTS CALL US!!!!BECAUSE THEY CANT CONTROL THEM ANY MORE).THESE KIDS ARE OUT ON THE STREETS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT 3,4,5 IN THE MORNING WITH NO SUPERVISION CAUSE THERE PARENTS ARE OUT GETTING DRUNK OR DOIN DRUGS OR JUST DONT GIVE A SHIT WHERE THEIR KIDS ARE.AND YES FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE IGNORANT TO THE WORLD AROUND THEM THESE KIDS ARE COMITTING CRIMES!!!!!
I HAVE ARRESTED A 13 YR OLD WITH MAC 10...A 12 YR OLD FOR AGG. ROBBERY.......I HAVE EVEN ARRESTED A 15 YR OLD FOR FELONIOUS ASSAULT/DV WHEN HE BEAT HIS MOTHER WITH A PIPE.ALOT OF THESE KIDS ARE IN GANGS(YES CINCINNATI HAS GANGS PEOPLE!!!)AND THEY LIKE TO JUMP PEOPLE AND ASSAULT PEOPLE FOR FUN AND THEY WILL TELL US THAT WHEN WE ARREST THEM.FORTUNATLY FOR THEM THE JUVENILE SYSTEM IS FULL OF PUSSIES THAT JUST SMACK THEIR HAND AND RELEASE THEM BACK TO THEIR PARENTS.BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE HAVE TO BE SO HANDS OFF WITH THESE KIDS THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN SAY OR DO OR TRY WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THE POLICE AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
DO ME A FAVOR ...WHEN UR HOME AT NIGHT SNUG IN BED PETTING ON UR WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND AND KISSING UR KIDS GOODNIGHT, REMEMBER ONE THING......... IM THE ONE THATS OUT ALL NIGHT RUNNING DOWN THE DARK ALLEYS CHASING THE GUYS WITH THE GUNS AND IM THE ONE THATS FIGHTING THE CRACKHEADS THATS ARE WAITING TO ROBB YOU OR BREAK INTO UR CAR AND GRAB STUFF THEY CAN SELL FOR THEIR DOPE.AND IM THE ONE THAT GETTING TOLD TO GO FUCK MYSELF BY THESE KIDS WHEN I STOP THEM AT 3AM TO FIND OUT WHY THEY ARE NOT AT HOME.THESE KIDS DONT RESPECT OR LISTEN TO THE POLICE ANY MORE THAN THEIR PARENTS DO.AND IT ACTUALLY UPS THEIR STREET REP IF THEY FIGHT WITH THE POLICE..

SO PLZ DO ME A FAVOR AND SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE POLICE UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE TEST AND GO THROUGH ALL THE TRAINING THAT WE GO THROUGH, WORK ALL THE CRAPPY HOURS, GO TO COURT ON UR OFF DAYS, MISS HOLIDAYS WITH UR FAMILIES AND GET NO THANKS AT ALL FOR DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO KEEP THE STREETS SAFE FOR YOU.

P.S HERES A THOUGHT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE REAL WORLD YOU LIVE IN......THERE IS NO LAW IN THE WORLD THAT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL YOUR 21 TO BE A CRIMINAL..........CRIMINALS START COMITTING CRIMES WHEN THEY ARE KIDS!!!!!!(OH YEA AND THE 15 YR OLD THAT BEAT HIS OWN MOTHER WITH A PIPE WAS 6FT1 AND 190 AND IT WAS HIS OWN MOTHER HE BEAT SO WHAT DO YOU THINK HE WOULD TRY TO DO TO YOU!!!!!!

[Mista Bone]

holy caps lock!!!!!

work puter?

[Waffles]

:lol: holy capslock batman!

[Waffles]

Ha, now that's scary! Bones, don't flatter yourself with some "great minds think alike" comment. It was just a coincidence, I promise. :lol:

[Mista Bone]

treed :)


LOL!

[306Power]

Geeze and I thought my head was hurting a little before reading that post...

[cobrajoe]

Just curious... You get a call to a school for a out of control 8yr old. Do you assume that he's a punk kid who's parents suck as some of you have put it?

[Mista Bone]

I now fully understand why mom quit teaching about 20 years ago when they took away giving swats.

http://people.hsc.edu/faculty-staff/tomv/RodneyDangerfield_Album_no_respect.jpg

She feared that the kids would "test the limits" and they would just be sent home.

Point/Counterpoint

The 8th grader, big for his size......was he picked on by others or was he a bully?

Normally the big kids are peace keepers and he got caught in the middle. The exact details of the fight that led to the school flagging down a cop haven't been released.

Since I believe this is a magnet school, could the 8th grader have had an anxiety issue? Surprised at the cop behind him, turned around in surprise to defend himself?

If a 145-150 female cop responded to the scene, you think she would wanna take on a 200 lb male? Talk about getting into a big mess and taking the smart way out. Could have used the billy club or a her gun....but choose the normally not lethal route. Pepper spray in a group of kids....that would have be no fun.

[JROUTLAW331]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE...YOU GUYS DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS OUT THERE.ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT THE MEDIA TELLS YOU AND GUESS WHAT FOLKS.....THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW AND WHAT MAKES GOOD NEWS....NOT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE A GOOD STORY....I HAVE BEEN ON SHOOTINGS AND I DID THE INVESTIGATIONS AND I KNOW WHAT EXACTALLY HAPPENED FROM WITNESSES THAT WERE STANDING THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED BUT WHEN I GOT HOME AND TURNED ON NEWS THE STORY THEY TOLD WAS NO WHERE NEAR WHAT HAPPENED. WHY? BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE A GOOD STORY. iF ALL THEY SAID IN THE NEWS WAS" YEP WE HAD ANOTHER DRUG DEAL GONE BAD THAT TURNED INTO A SHOOTING" PEOPLE WOULDNT WATCH ANYMORE...AND YOU GUYS KILL ME WITH ALL THIS" WELL THE COP SHOULDA DONE THIS" OR" THEY COULDA DONE THIS" OR" THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT"...FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT UNLESS YOU ARE A COP YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDNT DO ON ANY GIVEN SCENE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THERE AND YOU DONT KNOW THE LAWS BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL,NOT TO MENTION OUR DEPT POLICY AND USE OF FORCE PROCEDURES..SO PLZ JUST SHUT UP WITH ALL UR IGNORANT OPINIONS..BY THE WAY MOST DEPTS INCLUDING US DONT CARRY CHEMICAL IRRITANT ON US ANYMORE...OUR MAIN NON-LETHAL OPTION IS THE TASER.

[djom1cincy]

For all the idiots. Would you rather be tazed by one cop or beaten down by 5? I'd rather have the tazer. Teach the kids to listen and respect and there won't be a problem.

[Waffles]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE...YOU GUYS DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS OUT THERE.ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT THE MEDIA TELLS YOU AND GUESS WHAT FOLKS.....THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW AND WHAT MAKES GOOD NEWS....NOT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE A GOOD STORY....I HAVE BEEN ON SHOOTINGS AND I DID THE INVESTIGATIONS AND I KNOW WHAT EXACTALLY HAPPENED FROM WITNESSES THAT WERE STANDING THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED BUT WHEN I GOT HOME AND TURNED ON NEWS THE STORY THEY TOLD WAS NO WHERE NEAR WHAT HAPPENED. WHY? BECAUSE IT DOESNT MAKE A GOOD STORY. iF ALL THEY SAID IN THE NEWS WAS" YEP WE HAD ANOTHER DRUG DEAL GONE BAD THAT TURNED INTO A SHOOTING" PEOPLE WOULDNT WATCH ANYMORE...AND YOU GUYS KILL ME WITH ALL THIS" WELL THE COP SHOULDA DONE THIS" OR" THEY COULDA DONE THIS" OR" THEY HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT"...FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT UNLESS YOU ARE A COP YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULDNT DO ON ANY GIVEN SCENE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THERE AND YOU DONT KNOW THE LAWS BOTH CIVIL AND CRIMINAL,NOT TO MENTION OUR DEPT POLICY AND USE OF FORCE PROCEDURES..SO PLZ JUST SHUT UP WITH ALL UR IGNORANT OPINIONS..BY THE WAY MOST DEPTS INCLUDING US DONT CARRY CHEMICAL IRRITANT ON US ANYMORE...OUR MAIN NON-LETHAL OPTION IS THE TASER.

Dude. On the top right of the keyboard, there's a little green light marked "CAPS LOCK" (circled in blue on the sample keyboard below). If this light is on, DON'T TYPE. There's a key right above your left shift button (circled in red on the sample keyboard below). PUSH IT ONCE. Then, push the shift button (below caps lock) every now and again at the beginning of each sentence and at proper nouns. You'd be surprised how well it works.

Thanks for your cooperation :lol:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i111/cga1974/keyboard4.jpg

[Waffles]

Would you rather be tazed by one cop or beaten down by 5?

I'd rather tase Captain Capslock :lol: That shit gives me a headache to read lol

[Mista Bone]

I'd rather tase Captain Capslock :lol: That shit gives me a headache to read lol

and if he is posting from his cruiser, might not be an option.

:popcorn:

[Waffles]

and if he is posting from his cruiser, might not be an option.

:popcorn:

lol... if you look, every now and again the first letter of the sentence is lowercase.

[JROUTLAW331]

For all the idiots. Would you rather be tazed by one cop or beaten down by 5? I'd rather have the tazer. Teach the kids to listen and respect and there won't be a problem.

YEP!:bigthumb

AS USUAL ON HERE EVERYBODYS A COMEDIAN.....WELL I DONT THINK ITS FUNNY AT ALL CAUSE AFTER EVERYTHING I SAID ALL YOU CAN COMMENT ON IS ME USING CAPS AND NOT THE ISSUE......There is that better now all of you lil whiners can stop crying now!.....Its like dealing with a bunch of babies on here....Shoulda known better than to waste my time.

[ADaughen]

NONE OF YOU(UNLESS YOU ARE A COP AND DEAL WITH ALL THE SHIT THAT WE DEAL WITH DAY IN AND DAY OUT)HAVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN VOICE AN OPINION BECAUSE YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.


Technically the 1st Amendment allows us to spout our "ignorant views".

Stay safe. :bigthumb

[BigBadStang]

I guess according to JROUTLAW331, if we didn't willingly decide to be an LEO, we have no right to voice an opinion. We (ordinary tax paying, law abiding citizens) need to just 'STFU'...really? Just because you have a badge doesn't give you the right to tell people they shouldn't have, or voice an opinion on police matters. Regardless of what the situation is, there will be a divide of opinions, so don't get your Kevlar all in a wad over it.

I'm not questioning/scrutinizing the events or actions that took place during this incident, but it's this type of "STFU, you don't know shit"..."or STFU, you weren't there"...or "I'm a cop, I am defender of the universe" attitude/arrogance that makes some people dislike police officers...which, by the way I am quite sure there are more people that show LEO's the respect they should, than those who don't. You CHOSE to be an LEO in a (relatively) large city, so don't bitch/brag about having to chase thugs through the alleys while we are all sleeping snug in our beds :rolleyes:. Did you not know that working crappy hours, and holidays come with the job? Then maybe you too should STFU, beacuse you chose to be cop right?
I appreciate, and respect the work cops do, without a doubt, but your not helping the LEO's public perception by getting on a forum and telling people to STFU because you don't want to hear/read people's opinions. Your job is not to keep me and my family safe, that's my job. Your job is to enforce the laws, which in turn, make better communities.

[Waffles]

I guess according to JROUTLAW331, if we didn't willingly decide to be an LEO, we have no right to voice an opinion. We (ordinary tax paying, law abiding citizens) need to just 'STFU'...really? Just because you have a badge doesn't give you the right to tell people they shouldn't have, or voice an opinion on police matters. Regardless of what the situation is, there will be a divide of opinions, so don't get your Kevlar all in a wad over it.

I'm not questioning/scrutinizing the events or actions that took place during this incident, but it's this type of "STFU, you don't know shit"..."or STFU, you weren't there"...or "I'm a cop, I am defender of the universe" attitude/arrogance that makes some people dislike police officers...which, by the way I am quite sure there are more people that show LEO's the respect they should, than those who don't. You CHOSE to be an LEO in a (relatively) large city, so don't bitch/brag about having to chase thugs through the alleys while we are all sleeping snug in our beds :rolleyes:. Did you not know that working crappy hours, and holidays come with the job? Then maybe you too should STFU, beacuse you chose to be cop right?
I appreciate, and respect the work cops do, without a doubt, but your not helping the LEO's public perception by getting on a forum and telling people to STFU because you don't want to hear/read people's opinions. Your job is not to keep me and my family safe, that's my job. Your job is to enforce the laws, which in turn, make better communities.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The whole STFU attitude is a bit of a put off, and something tells me he's the kinda cop that's a real prick during traffic stops. And any honest cop will admit they can't protect us. I call a cop, I'm lucky if one shows up in 15 minutes. How does that protect me or mine from anything? It's just not possible, and I don't expect them to. I back this cop in the school tasing and give her ever benefit of the doubt. Honestly, it's cops with attitudes like Captain Capslock that make most people doubt....

[Waffles]

YEP!:bigthumb

AS USUAL ON HERE EVERYBODYS A COMEDIAN.....WELL I DONT THINK ITS FUNNY AT ALL CAUSE AFTER EVERYTHING I SAID ALL YOU CAN COMMENT ON IS ME USING CAPS AND NOT THE ISSUE......There is that better now all of you lil whiners can stop crying now!.....Its like dealing with a bunch of babies on here....Shoulda known better than to waste my time.

Commenting on your CAPS LOCK was more polite than I could have been commenting on the content.

[306Power]

That's the kind of attitude I cant stand in some cops, or "pigs" as I would call you. I respect all good cops, shit I'm still thinking about going to school for a degree in Criminal Justice. Cops or pigs with your attitude on the other hand, you tell me to "STFU" when I did nothing but use one of my freedoms (check the 1st amendment) on here thats when you can kiss my ass. You have an awful lot of dis rescept for being a cop. You choose your career path, knowing that some people will hate you no matter what. Yet you still moan and bitch about it, thats part of the job and you knew it going in. Either you get over that and dont dis respect us others that dont give you a hard way to go just have a different opinion on things, or get a new career.

[may93]

YEP!:bigthumb

AS USUAL ON HERE EVERYBODYS A COMEDIAN.....WELL I DONT THINK ITS FUNNY AT ALL CAUSE AFTER EVERYTHING I SAID ALL YOU CAN COMMENT ON IS ME USING CAPS AND NOT THE ISSUE......There is that better now all of you lil whiners can stop crying now!.....Its like dealing with a bunch of babies on here....Shoulda known better than to waste my time.

So do you have information on this matter that we do not? Or are you just defending another Police officers actions based off the fact their a fellow Police officer? Not sure how your rant telling us to shut the f#$% up helps the case. Some of us have degrees in Criminal Justice and only chose not to be Police officers. Doesnt mean we dont understand criminal law, the Use of Force procedures, or the use of chemicals such as less lethal munitions. Every incident is different and because a 15 year old beat his mother with a pipe does not mean every 12 year old is automatically a perp who needs tazered. At the same time I agree the media only reports the part that makes a story more interesing. That more so the reason for the departments PIO to make a statement. Does anyone know the gender of the Officer yet? Now as for keeping me safe well I can say I've never called anyone to protect me yet and I sleep just fine. Regardless of the situation Im sure I could handle it myself more effectively then the Police.

[may93]

While searching the web I found this attached example of the Cincinnati's finest keeping us safe. It's the unions and fellow police officers trying to protect each other even when wrong that lead to officers being out of control. I feel safer having this officer off the streets. Hopefully the city gets sued and pays heavily. The fact he was fired once and then rehired proves he was a problem. I'd be curious how he justified tazering a female on her knees with her hands in the air. Sad!!



http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/25/Cincinnati-officer-suspended-for-Taser-use/UPI-20531251175939/

[JROUTLAW331]

Correct me if Im wrong but is this not the "rants"section?..Then Im allowed to voice my opinions like all of you are!....And what you are hearing is the frustration that myself and alot of othe officers are feeling.....Yes! being an officer is a thankless job with crappy hours and dealing with alot of disrespect from people and we did know that when we took the job.But it gets REAl old when you hear people all day long say that you" shoulda done this or that" and people who have no idea what we deal with on a day to day basis tell us how we shouldnt have done what we did..I dont get on here and tell you how what you did at work was wrong or that you had no right to do it.....I dont second guess everything you do....You dont get the media blasting you for how you handle out of control situations.Well We do!... NO I dont think every 12 yr old is a criminal but we deal with alot that are!..But most of society is so oblivious to what goes on in the world around them that they feel they have the luxury to sit back and second guess police officers when the truth is that if you put normal people in some of the situations that we deal with they would just freak out or freeze up and unfortunatly we dont have that option....Yes somtimes we make bad decisions but we are human too.Bottom line is we see and deal with things that most of you will never have to deal with in your life and we deal with it every day so all im saying is before you are so quick to second guess what we do or form an opinion why dont you go down to your nearest dist and sign up to do a civilian ride along and take alook into what we really do and what we deal with then you can make an informed opinion.....All im saying is that untill you have been there or been in those situations and ACTUALLY see what we do then your opinion is useless......And as far as some of you that have your criminal justice degrees well im happy for you...I hope you follow your goals and get a job in law enf. if thats what you want to do but I have news for you there is a big difference between reading books and taking tests in a controled environment and actually doing the job( the street is not a controlled environment BELIEVE ME....people dont shoot at you in school...people dont jump you in school....people dont scream in ur face in school)...after you have done the job for a few years then you will understand.........maybe STFU was harsh but we live in a harsh world.

[JROUTLAW331]

While searching the web I found this attached example of the Cincinnati's finest keeping us safe. It's the unions and fellow police officers trying to protect each other even when wrong that lead to officers being out of control. I feel safer having this officer off the streets. Hopefully the city gets sued and pays heavily. The fact he was fired once and then rehired proves he was a problem. I'd be curious how he justified tazering a female on her knees with her hands in the air. Sad!!



http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/25/Cincinnati-officer-suspended-for-Taser-use/UPI-20531251175939/

Once again you proved my point!...You dont have a clue what you are talking about.....Have you ever conducted a felony stop?Have you ever had someone jump out of a car on you during any stop much less a felony?..Have you ever had to physically fight with someone to make an arrest?...NO YOU HAVENT...You have no idea whats justifiable and whats not so plz dont embarass yourself any more than you already have.
Oh thats right I forgot you could handle any situation better than the police....lol.....Any time you want you come ride with me and show me!

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Man i think some taser action would calm this thread down a LOT.

:lol:

[BigBadStang]

Man i think some taser action would calm this thread down a LOT.

:lol:

Maybe you should've gotten someone to taser that ant you had crawling around, chewing on your junk! After all, you were being sexually assaulted! :lol:

[Waffles]

Once again you proved my point!...You dont have a clue what you are talking about.....Have you ever conducted a felony stop?Have you ever had someone jump out of a car on you during any stop much less a felony?..Have you ever had to physically fight with someone to make an arrest?...NO YOU HAVENT...You have no idea whats justifiable and whats not so plz dont embarass yourself any more than you already have.
Oh thats right I forgot you could handle any situation better than the police....lol.....Any time you want you come ride with me and show me!

So, please sir, give us your explanation of why it's okay to tase a 26 year old female while she's on her knees with her hands in the air (assuming it's not some kinky sex act). I mean, turns out she was high profile with father on city council etc and I think that could mean dude was gonna get fired anyway, but he'd been suspended and fired before for the same kinda issues. So, let's hear it. What'cha got?

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Maybe you should've gotten someone to taser that ant you had crawling around, chewing on your junk! After all, you were being sexually assaulted! :lol:

I gave that little bastard the booger roll up and flick routine :rofl:

I could see someone trying to taser a bug off their nuts and lighting themself up.

[may93]

Once again you proved my point!...You dont have a clue what you are talking about.....Have you ever conducted a felony stop?Have you ever had someone jump out of a car on you during any stop much less a felony?..Have you ever had to physically fight with someone to make an arrest?...NO YOU HAVENT...You have no idea whats justifiable and whats not so plz dont embarass yourself any more than you already have.
Oh thats right I forgot you could handle any situation better than the police....lol.....Any time you want you come ride with me and show me!

No your proving my point. Even with the article right in front of you your saying she was on her knees with her hands in the air justifies tazering her? I work as a Lieutenant in a Correctional Facility where Im surrounded by those people you occasionaly arrest. I've dealt with with use of force situations where the individual I was struggling with was a murderer. I've also dealt with out of control officers who were fired and deserved to be. They were a liability to the department and others officers. Your personal and unprofessional conduct with your profanity is embarrassing. Your proving just what everyone is complaining about. Tazing a child is wrong and you can defend it all you want. Its when someone knows their wrong they become so defensive. As for riding along well been there and done that. Not that impressed because the majority of the time your not responding to a murder, your not being shot at but instead writing traffic violations. Which explains why when something does happen you over react and taze a female while shes on her knees with her hands in the air.

[JROUTLAW331]

No your proving my point. Even with the article right in front of you your saying she was on her knees with her hands in the air justifies tazering her? I work as a Lieutenant in a Correctional Facility where Im surrounded by those people you occasionaly arrest. I've dealt with with use of force situations where the individual I was struggling with was a murderer. I've also dealt with out of control officers who were fired and deserved to be. They were a liability to the department and others officers. Your personal and unprofessional conduct with your profanity is embarrassing. Your proving just what everyone is complaining about. Tazing a child is wrong and you can defend it all you want. Its when someone knows their wrong they become so defensive. As for riding along well been there and done that. Not that impressed because the majority of the time your not responding to a murder, your not being shot at but instead writing traffic violations. Which explains why when something does happen you over react and taze a female while shes on her knees with her hands in the air.
lol....a lieutenant in a correctional facility...ooooooooo:lol:..Im happy that you can take a test and you work in a secure facility where you dont have to worry about getting your ass kicked cause you can cry for help and 10 of your buddies will bail you out......Sorry but I dont have that luxury on the street....And judging by ur comment that tasing a child is wrong without being there and knowing what happend, u working in a correctional facility is the best place for you because I wouldnt want to be the one to have to come and save u when a 15 yr old is beating ur ass cause you think that tasing him is wrong.....
As for taseing a female on the ground with her hands up....I wasnt there and im not going to second guess someone who was but i can say this i will be happy to meet face to face with anyone who would like to and we can discuss the taseing and all the different things that could happen in that situation....but I doubt anyone one here would take me up on it though....how bout u lieutenant?
p.s.Dont get me wrong I am friends with alot of corr. officers and they are great guys and they wouldnt think about second guessing another officer. Oh and btw it didnt just turn out that she was related to thomas....she jumped out of the car yelling"do you know who I am"..."cecil thomas is my dad..like thats supposed to overide the fact that she hangs with convicted felons and he has an open felony warrant and has open container of alcohol in the car.I guess that because Thomas is her daddy that its o.k to disreguard police officers commands and impeed a felony arrest in progress when officers are activly fighting with suspect to get him in custody.....

[306Power]

^^^ "Luxury on the street" :lol:. I didnt know we had Steven Seagal on the boards here, Mr. Badass himself. Your not helping your own cause, you whine and bitch about people not liking what you do, yet it's your above the law attitude that causes some to frown upon cops.

[djom1cincy]

Where can I buy a tazer? I want to play a game. I plan on walking the streets and tazing every kid I see that looks 12 or younger. Should make for a fun game to watch them piss on themselves then stiffen up like a 2 by 4 and fall over. If I get lucky they may flop around on the ground like a fish out of water. This could make for a fun night if alcohol gets involved.

[Waffles]

Damn, I started out in this thread defending the cop. This guy makes me wanna start slapping them around lol

[may93]

lol....a lieutenant in a correctional facility...ooooooooo:lol:..Im happy that you can take a test and you work in a secure facility where you dont have to worry about getting your ass kicked cause you can cry for help and 10 of your buddies will bail you out......Sorry but I dont have that luxury on the street....And judging by ur comment that tasing a child is wrong without being there and knowing what happend, u working in a correctional facility is the best place for you because I wouldnt want to be the one to have to come and save u when a 15 yr old is beating ur ass cause you think that tasing him is wrong.....
As for taseing a female on the ground with her hands up....I wasnt there and im not going to second guess someone who was but i can say this i will be happy to meet face to face with anyone who would like to and we can discuss the taseing and all the different things that could happen in that situation....but I doubt anyone one here would take me up on it though....how bout u lieutenant?
p.s.Dont get me wrong I am friends with alot of corr. officers and they are great guys and they wouldnt think about second guessing another officer. Oh and btw it didnt just turn out that she was related to thomas....she jumped out of the car yelling"do you know who I am"..."cecil thomas is my dad..like thats supposed to overide the fact that she hangs with convicted felons and he has an open felony warrant and has open container of alcohol in the car.I guess that because Thomas is her daddy that its o.k to disreguard police officers commands and impeed a felony arrest in progress when officers are activly fighting with suspect to get him in custody.....

I work in a Correctional facility where I’m surrounded by over 2300 convicted felons. These are the same individuals that you arrest. I don’t second guess another officer and at no time did I personally attack you. My problem with you is that you refuse to acknowledge that fact that sometimes the officer is wrong. I have my current job based off of my military experience and college background. Look at your comments there "officer" your almost at the point of making threats. My opinion has been that the tazing of a 12 year old is hard to justify. I also defended the officer depending on the circumstances. My opinion was also that of a father with children. Find the post where I insulted or disrespected the police officers in general. Your posts have been insulting from the beginning with your STFU and ignorant comments. Then you repost that you’re entitled to your opinions while SHOUTING at others for theirs. You also make derogatory comments regarding correctional officers when some of them are also part time police officers or deputy sheriffs. It’s the dirty correctional officers and police officers that make it hard for those of us who do our jobs. I will back a good officer to the end but in some cases their just wrong and the problem needs corrected. Ignoring the problems just encourages the behavior. Those that are not cut out for jobs in law enforcement or corrections need to be removed from their positions. Justifying any and all of their actions doesn’t help the problem. Would you feel as strongly if they tazered your child or wife? In the above situation did the officer retain his job or was he fired? From what I read he was looking at possibly losing his job and he had a past history. If he followed procedures then is he still working today? Regardless we work in related fields and have a interest in cars so time wasted bashing each other is ridiculous. It’s a difference in opinion that were both entitled to have. I don’t need to insult you to make mine. Myself I'm tired of reading about the correction officer arrested conveying drugs inside the institution or the police officer arrested for sexual misconduct (on the news as I type, no shit). They make us all look bad and I want them identified and fired. Then those of us who do our jobs can do so without being scrutinized constantly. Then maybe the public will have a different view of the job we do.:cheers:

[BigBadStang]

...the police officer arrested for sexual misconduct (on the news as I type, no shit)...

Is that the one from Obetz that offered up his cock to be sucked by a drunk chick he picked up sitting in a parked car? He insenuated if she blew him, he'd let her go home!:lol:
They said in court that the state forensics lab found the cops jizz/dna on her tennis shoe!:sukit:
:lol:

[Mista Bone]

Damn, I started out in this thread defending the cop. This guy makes me wanna start slapping them around lol

just the "outlaw" ones need an attitude adjustment.

[k062693w]

Why do the lockers for the officers in police stations have locks on them ??? LMAO

I have always wondered that ...

[87stangbbb]

because they can't be trusted

[JROUTLAW331]

O.k for the record at no point have I defended anybody....I have not defended the tazing of a 12 yr old nor have i said that the officer was right for tazing the thomas woman I was not there and I really dont know what happened.....What I have been saying is that Im tired of people judging the police and badmouthing them when they were not there and dont know the situation.....Does it look bad that a 12 yr old got tazed...yes it does.But if the situation justified a tazing than the fact that he was 12 shouldnt matter.People hear that he was 12 and automatically the officer is the bad guy.....my point to the matter is that kids(not all kids)that we deal with alot will fight police and do carry guns and have no respect for the law and are getting bigger by the day.....Thats all Im saying......and it gets very frustrating when people are so quick to point the finger at us without truely finding out what happened(and I dont mean from the media or papers).
I am a good cop and I work hard to make good arrests and put bad people in jail that need to be.police and corrections always get a bad rap and always will because people dont want to believe that kids are out comitting crimes.(once again I will say not all kids)...For those of you with kids Im sure that your children are not out roaming the streets at 3 am because you raised them right and they are good kids....I wish I could say that about all kids but I cant.
Myself and most cops are not looking for a pat on the back for doing our job we just ask for a fair shake.
The STFU thing was harsh and not necessary and I apologize...Im just very frustrated cause there are alot of good cops and corr officers out there(and yes some bad eggs too that dont need to be cops and I understand that) that work hard in a rough environment and do the best that they can.....so all I ask is take a second before you judge us and find out what really happened and if we screwed up then we screwed up and we should be hel accountable but if we had to do somthing that looks or sounds unpleasant to control an out of control situation or affect an arrest well Im sorry but thats just part of our job.

[JROUTLAW331]

Lets just squash all this piddly crap and concentrate on cars.....summer will be here soon and I am working my ass off to have a car ready.....It should be a cool summer with all the new cars out and all the old players with new stuff comming out.Im looking forward to gettin to the track and eatin alot of wings at the lube:bigthumb

[dedpedal]

Lets just squash all this piddly crap and concentrate on cars.....summer will be here soon and I am working my ass off to have a car ready.....It should be a cool summer with all the new cars out and all the old players with new stuff comming out.Im looking forward to gettin to the track and eatin alot of wings at the lube:bigthumb


Youre building another car?? Ive been out of the loop. I cant wait to see what you bring out. I thought becoming a police officer had calmed you down..

[may93]

Lets just squash all this piddly crap and concentrate on cars.....summer will be here soon and I am working my ass off to have a car ready.....It should be a cool summer with all the new cars out and all the old players with new stuff comming out.Im looking forward to gettin to the track and eatin alot of wings at the lube:bigthumb

I agree 100% man. I deal with enough frustration at work. If you didnt care about your job you wouldnt take the time to defend it. Myself, why I ended up in the rants section I do not know. I could have spent that time productively in the tech section. Or better yet working on my coupe. Definitely feel you on the days off thing. Its been so long on 2nd shift that I thought tues/wed was the weekend.

[Waffles]

O.k for the record at no point have I defended anybody....I have not defended the tazing of a 12 yr old nor have i said that the officer was right for tazing the thomas woman I was not there and I really dont know what happened.....What I have been saying is that Im tired of people judging the police and badmouthing them when they were not there and dont know the situation.....Does it look bad that a 12 yr old got tazed...yes it does.But if the situation justified a tazing than the fact that he was 12 shouldnt matter.People hear that he was 12 and automatically the officer is the bad guy.....my point to the matter is that kids(not all kids)that we deal with alot will fight police and do carry guns and have no respect for the law and are getting bigger by the day.....Thats all Im saying......and it gets very frustrating when people are so quick to point the finger at us without truely finding out what happened(and I dont mean from the media or papers).
I am a good cop and I work hard to make good arrests and put bad people in jail that need to be.police and corrections always get a bad rap and always will because people dont want to believe that kids are out comitting crimes.(once again I will say not all kids)...For those of you with kids Im sure that your children are not out roaming the streets at 3 am because you raised them right and they are good kids....I wish I could say that about all kids but I cant.
Myself and most cops are not looking for a pat on the back for doing our job we just ask for a fair shake.
The STFU thing was harsh and not necessary and I apologize...Im just very frustrated cause there are alot of good cops and corr officers out there(and yes some bad eggs too that dont need to be cops and I understand that) that work hard in a rough environment and do the best that they can.....so all I ask is take a second before you judge us and find out what really happened and if we screwed up then we screwed up and we should be hel accountable but if we had to do somthing that looks or sounds unpleasant to control an out of control situation or affect an arrest well Im sorry but thats just part of our job.

Excellent post! I think I agree with everything you've said here, especially in the first paragraph.

[k062693w]

Can I get the Cliffs Notes copy of this ??? :lol:

[Mista Bone]

Can I get the Cliffs Notes copy of this ??? :lol:

The on topic or off topic version?

:angel:

[BigBadStang]

Can I get the Cliffs Notes copy of this ??? :lol:

You and your ADHD...:lol:

[k062693w]

You and your ADHD...:lol:

More like me and all this Fucking Jabber !!!
You don't agree with me, But if I type it enough and re-word it enough, Throw in some CAP WORDS, And maybe quote another dumbfuck or 2 you will finally agree with me !!! :lol:
And if you don't agree or come around to my perspective I'm going to call you names and try to make myself look bigger by downtalking you !!! LMAO !!! :bigthumb

[02mingryGT]

yeah you seem pretty tough with a taser

Just seen this. You obviously aren't smart enough to understand sarcasm/humor when you see. WAY WAY WAY the fuck over your head.....:lol:

See I was commenting on current society with humor. just like that song "Pants on the Ground". You probably didn't like that either.

[87stangbbb]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:never heard that song.sing it for me tough guy

[02mingryGT]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:never heard that song.sing it for me tough guy

Find on the internet punk ass :lol::lol::lol::lol: at you :bigthumb

[03z06vette]

wow this post is getting big, i guess ill give my .02. The reason u taze a 12 year old is because he is not doing what the cop says and causing harm or charging someone or the cop. i can say the way out of this is to teach your kids to do what the cops say, if there is no witnessess and its unreasonable, ask for a supervisor to be present. if my kid is not listening and is gona hurt someone elce and possably get kicked out of school, or even cost me money. taze them, they will listen next time the tazer is out.

[87stangbbb]

Find on the internet punk ass :lol::lol::lol::lol: at you :bigthumb
fuck you bitch