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cobra429boss
05-13-2010, 08:55 AM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/humane-society-director-attacked-703094.html


Would of done the same thing if i was the cop...

Pitbull1052
05-13-2010, 09:54 AM
this is what the Humane Society Director in the vid said just FYI

Straley, however, does not support a pit bull ban like those in Fairborn and Cincinnati.

“My problem is not with pit bulls. It’s not the dog’s fault,” Straley said. “I’ve seen more good pits than bad ones.”

Those who do not control their potentially dangerous dog can expect zero tolerance.

“I’m thrilled to be able to go after these irresponsible owners,” he said.

sean
05-13-2010, 10:38 AM
I am sure not being there it looked a lot different but that looked like they were playing more than a full on attack. I am sure it was different being there though. BUT hell of a shot by to police officer.

djom1cincy
05-13-2010, 11:46 AM
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black90lx
05-13-2010, 01:59 PM
yea the pitbull had alot of chances to attack the guy if it was really trying too. i have 3 pits right now and have had 3 other ones and none of them showed any type of aggression even if you bother them while there eating, they act like your not even there. pitbulls are the least reported dogs that attack humans but when they do the media makes sure they put it out there. the pits they fight are even human friendly and you could walk up too one and not even know it unless it is all scared up. pitbulls are the most loyal dogs and alot of people have realized it when they are around them alot.

Pitbull1052
05-13-2010, 02:36 PM
yea the pitbull had alot of chances to attack the guy if it was really trying too. i have 3 pits right now and have had 3 other ones and none of them showed any type of aggression even if you bother them while there eating, they act like your not even there. pitbulls are the least reported dogs that attack humans but when they do the media makes sure they put it out there. the pits they fight are even human friendly and you could walk up too one and not even know it unless it is all scared up. pitbulls are the most loyal dogs and alot of people have realized it when they are around them alot.



Preach on brotha!!!!!!!!!

Big J Botang
05-13-2010, 02:45 PM
Problem is the person being harassed has no clue what they are doing, i know dogs that play violent AND THEN GET VIOLENT.

The concept of a potentially violent dog means that it can flip at any minute. One minute your playing the next minute your hand is missing. I would expect my dog to be shot on site acting like that.

Dirtyd0g
05-13-2010, 02:56 PM
Judging dogs based on their breed is a hard thing to figure. Personally I don't care for chow's but I have met a few good ones.
Dogs come down to 2 things.
Their family history. Some aggression is instinctive dependant on what their parents did.

Most importantly how they were raised. I have a few dogs here and none of them have ever shown any sign of aggression. One is an American bulldog. The most aggressive dog I have is a 5 lb miniature chihuahua, however his bites tickle..... in fact my kids have made a game with him where they pull a blanket over themselves and he nips at it to tickle them. Sounds strange but whatever nobody gets hurt and it is funny to watch.
On the other hand a buddy of mine had a pit that was wierd I stopped by his house becaus ehe asked to and he had left his gate open. It cornered me at my car for about 10 minutes for no good reason. I even told him that hsi dog just got it's last chance. If I had been inside the fence I would have expected the dog to guard the property. Just getting out of my car and being attacked by this dog I told him next time I will put a bullet in it's brain.
The guy who owned that dog died and the police shot it when they went to his apartment. Another friend was trying to get the dog to take care of it, but that dog was too aggressive. The owner thought it was cool to have a dog that would protect his property, personally I prefer them as warning systems.
Alan

Big J Botang
05-13-2010, 03:03 PM
Basically it’s like the robber that breaks into your house in the middle of the night (which you should be able to shoot just like that dog) because you don’t know the intent of the robber, much like that dude didn’t know the full on intent of those three “potentially” dangerous dogs. Now, when the robber is in your house do you want to feel him out, run around the house a little bit with him, check him for violent weapons, or would you take breaking in the house is enough to resolve the situation? It comes down to the fact that it doesn’t matter what the subject is, if it looks aggressive or poses a threat, you don’t have time to do full blown analysis on how they were raised, weather they were trained to be brutal, or none of that shit, cause you could be that dead dog if you fuck around to long with em.

Pitbull1052
05-13-2010, 03:32 PM
Just found this while trying to find dog attacks by breed for 2009 thought it was interesting.....

1) Fatal incidents are extremely rare. With about 75 million dogs in the US, and 32 fatal dog attacks each year, they are such a statistically anomaly that decisions on "breed" aggression should not be based on such rare incidents. By comparison, the US Population is 300 million (4x the dog population) and saw over 16,000 murders (500x the number of dog-related deaths). If only humans could be close to as safe as dogs....

djom1cincy
05-13-2010, 04:11 PM
I'm a dog lover. Have two now and grew up with them. That statement could be misleading. Deaths may be few but what about attachs that lead to serious injures? I'd bet my pay check there are a thousand serious injuries per year from dog attacks.

BlazinEagle
05-13-2010, 06:13 PM
I have been attacked by 3 different dogs when I was a kid (none of my own). I still own dogs and always will. It is ashame that people treat animals in a harmful manner or teach them to be mean. I do not think that most attacks are from the animal being vicious but more neglect on the owners side. I would guess that just with humans there are just just "bad" dogs, but 99.9% if taken care of properly would be great pets.

cobraman302
05-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Just found this while trying to find dog attacks by breed for 2009 thought it was interesting.....

1) Fatal incidents are extremely rare. With about 75 million dogs in the US, and 32 fatal dog attacks each year, they are such a statistically anomaly that decisions on "breed" aggression should not be based on such rare incidents. By comparison, the US Population is 300 million (4x the dog population) and saw over 16,000 murders (500x the number of dog-related deaths). If only humans could be close to as safe as dogs....

I am a pure dog person, but those dogs are dangerous, and some owners makes them more dangerous and in some cases deadly. Bottom line they can be very unsafe and I am uncomfortable around one that's for sure. That is a really worthless statement about how many people are "killed" by dogs. Love dogs, don't like dangerous/vicious and unstable dogs. Not singling out pit bulls, but they are the most dangerous.

dsmawd350
05-13-2010, 08:20 PM
I own 3 pits and I'll be the first the defend them . But in my opinion that was justified. Maybe the dogs were playing? maybe they were defening their yard. Either way one of them is now dead due to an irresponsible owner. And thats the bottom line.

And BTW the American Pitbull Terrier was never meant to be human agressive in any way shape or form. This breed has a high prey drive, and very possibly a likelyhood of dog agression. WHY? because it was breed into them for many many decades. Thats what they were bread to do, Fight, Kill, and never give up. And owning this breed comes with the responsibility of knowing it. Even the most friendly pits came from a game bred dog that had seen the box at some point in time and its in their genetics maybe not right upfront, but a bulldog will be a bulldog. BUT they were bred to never bite a human. Even in the heat of an hr long match in the pit the APBT would never bite a handler reaching in. Breeding of human agressive dogs and irresponsibe owners is why we have the media hype we have today. Any human agressive APBT should be PTS without a doubt as that is something the breed was never meant to be.

mustang8998
05-13-2010, 08:25 PM
http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds

http://www.toptenmostdangerousdogs.com/

Interesting links.

djom1cincy
05-13-2010, 08:41 PM
Boxer is the only that suprised me and the one below. Never heard of it.

Dirtyd0g
05-13-2010, 10:57 PM
I am a pure dog person, but those dogs are dangerous, and some owners makes them more dangerous and in some cases deadly. Bottom line they can be very unsafe and I am uncomfortable around one that's for sure. That is a really worthless statement about how many people are "killed" by dogs. Love dogs, don't like dangerous/vicious and unstable dogs. Not singling out pit bulls, but they are the most dangerous.

I used to think that however I see the most aggresion from chow's and German Shepard. My buddy stays with me and has a pure white american bulldog that wouldn't hurt a fly. I watched my 2 year old son put her back in her cage. Oh he had to put her back in her cage because he was stealing her treat. She never even opened her mouth.
Alan

CNTLOSE
05-13-2010, 11:13 PM
We have owned our boxer since he was around 13 weeks old or so. I knew the breeder and both parents. He has never been mistreated and was our "kid" for many years before we had any. He always hated everyone except for my parents a few select friends. He will aggressively bark and try to bite every dumbass that tries to pet him...even when we tell them to keep their hands down. He is great with all four of our kids. They ride him like a horse, they use him as a stool, the wrestle with him, and he has never done anything but lick them. We never tried to break him of his aggressiveness towards strangers, as we liked him to be a guard dog...especially when I use to work midnights.

So seeing a boxer on the list does not surprise me much. A few intresting facts...Boxers have a lock-jaw just like a pitbull terrier as they are from the same family. If memory serves me right they were created breeding Pitbull Terriers and an English Bulldogs. They were designed to hunt bears and boars hence the design of their jaws and set back nose. Duke is now 9 years old and is starting to show his age. Which sucks because our children are so young. But when he does leave us, we will not hesitate to buy another Boxer.

2kSVT
05-13-2010, 11:25 PM
I work on the west side of Dayton, and drive a white crown vic for a living. I agree with dsmawd, that these dogs are raised by irresponsible owners. I have put down numerous pitbulls in the course of my days in the hood. The owners allow these dogs to run loose and they terrorize neighborhoods and chase, bite harm anyhting that crosses their path. I once watched 3 of them hunting stray cats and violently shake them to death when they caught one. We had a call off of N. Main st a week ago, where 2 pits got into a yard with the residents 2 pits. When the owner stepped out to bring her dogs in they all attacked her. She was bitten by a neighbors dog, and hers joined in. I have seen the family pet maul a kid on multiple occasions. One of the worst I saw was a pair of Cane Corsos mauled the 11 year old that lived with them. He looked like someone threw him in a wood chipper. I have a Border Collie, good family dog just wants to chase a tennis ball. I have no love for pits, I think they are vicious and the good ones are a light switch away from turning bad.
My 2 cents

Dirtyd0g
05-14-2010, 12:03 AM
I work on the west side of Dayton, and drive a white crown vic for a living. I agree with dsmawd, that these dogs are raised by irresponsible owners. I have put down numerous pitbulls in the course of my days in the hood. The owners allow these dogs to run loose and they terrorize neighborhoods and chase, bite harm anyhting that crosses their path. I once watched 3 of them hunting stray cats and violently shake them to death when they caught one. We had a call off of N. Main st a week ago, where 2 pits got into a yard with the residents 2 pits. When the owner stepped out to bring her dogs in they all attacked her. She was bitten by a neighbors dog, and hers joined in. I have seen the family pet maul a kid on multiple occasions. One of the worst I saw was a pair of Cane Corsos mauled the 11 year old that lived with them. He looked like someone threw him in a wood chipper. I have a Border Collie, good family dog just wants to chase a tennis ball. I have no love for pits, I think they are vicious and the good ones are a light switch away from turning bad.
My 2 cents

I had a golden which is the same ball chasing mentality. I really loved that dog she was my best friend. Until recently I would have agreed on pit's and the certain breeds can be more instinctively vicious, however the ones known as american bulldogs are classified as pit's and I have yet to see aggression out of one.
Alan

black90lx
05-14-2010, 07:41 AM
So in a nut shell, pits are like towel heads. You got a lot that mind there own buisness and bother anybody, then you got the other ones that are brought up by idiots like terriorist that strap bombs to theirselves.

Pitbull1052
05-14-2010, 08:48 AM
Boxer is the only that suprised me and the one below. Never heard of it.



basically a Presa Canairo is a pitbull that is bred back with a bull mastiff so it's a huge ass pitbull....... there was one case a few years back where two killed a lady in an apartment building in California... it was pretty bad

Pitbull1052
05-14-2010, 09:07 AM
REALLY????? lock jaw and from the same family???? you've got to be kidding me it totally amazes me how uneducated people are when it comes to dogs.... K first off dogs dont have lock-jaw or the ability to unlock their jaw to get a bigger bite.... they have what's called sure will and determination to not let go..... secondly a Boxer (AKC working group)and yes I've had a box who was a son of a grand camp DNA registered $2500 dollar Boxer and the DNA in a boxer is and English Bulldog and Bullenbeisser which no longer exists, it was bred in GERMANY, My dog which is a Stafforshire Bull Terrier (origin of the pitbull) (AKC Terrier Group) which originated in Staffordshire ENGLAND and is from a large bully breed typically the Bull Mastiff and a Terrier typically a Jack Russell.........

black90lx
05-15-2010, 02:30 AM
I think its funny when people say pits have locking jaws. I wonder where people come up with this stuff at.

Dirtyd0g
05-15-2010, 04:39 AM
I think its funny when people say pits have locking jaws. I wonder where people come up with this stuff at.

I think most people think that because the way these dogs will hang on a small rope. The locking jaw thing is completely a myth, without science to prove it you would never know. They do have bite techniques that are unlike anything else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_Bull
Alan

dsmawd350
05-15-2010, 08:18 AM
its called the determination of a terrier....not lock jaw

Adam@S&MMotorsports
05-15-2010, 10:49 PM
A APBT is a loyal dog with an extreme desire to please its owner. If the owner wants the dog to be human aggressive it will be. But the owner is the problem not the breed. These dogs were bred to be human friendly. I currently have two pits that love people,kids,animals, fuck one of them used to take naps with our kitten. To say a "good pit is only a light switch away from being bad " truly shows your lack of intelligence and concerns me that you carry a badge and firearm...

Squale iii
05-15-2010, 11:01 PM
Those dogs weren't attacking him. If they wanted to, they would have had that dumbass on the ground stretched out yanking on arms, legs, anything they can get ahold of. I know my dog is relentless and plays rough b/c I play rough with him. Sometimes he'll nip me but I let him know who's boss and that is that. I think those dogs were playing with dude and letting him know he was on their property. I do agree that the owner could have prevented that unfortunate ending by being more responsible. It's sad b/c the dogs were just doing what they were trained to do.. To protect their master and territory.

Mista Bone
05-15-2010, 11:23 PM
So in a nut shell, pits are like towel heads. You got a lot that mind there own buisness and bother anybody, then you got the other ones that are brought up by idiots like terriorist that strap bombs to theirselves.

I believe you meant nobody.

Neighbor across the back had his pit get loose today. As I approached he basically fell down wanting to be petted. the stray cats weren't to happy, he he didn't even go after them.

black90lx
05-16-2010, 02:28 AM
i will probably never own another dog other than a pitbull breed except if i get a hunting dog. i am 100% satisfied with the 6 i have had in my life and they couldnt have been better dogs...

Dipstick
05-16-2010, 11:51 AM
I'll stay with my Danes and Dobermans, and I like the lab we have too!

2kSVT
05-16-2010, 05:50 PM
Slow 94, if you read correctly I work in the west side of Dayton. These idiots raise them to fight and look cool like the dumbasses they worship on rap videos. I own a Border Collie, I grew up with one so that's what I like. I have been a cop for 15 years, 6 of those on the SWAT team and it has been my experience that they are sketchy to me. We had to shoot one today that was running loose killing cats and attacking dogs and trying to bite people. They are a real problem in Dayton because people raise them to be mean and then do not keep them confined. In Dayton you must have them in a 6 foot tall kenneel with a top and a lock on the gate. You must also carry $100,000 in insurance. I'll bet you can guess how many people follow these rules. Most of the dogs we get called out on aren't even wearing a collar. We got 3 dangerous animal calls today alone for pitbulls running loose. The animal control officer that was with us said they are declared a vicious breed..not by me but by the state legislature. You need not be concerned, I am good at what I do. I am not so ignorant to think they are all bad. The ones I have dealt with can barely raise themselves and their offspring let alone a dog that was bred to be aggressive. I'm sure if I met your dog, I would think it was cool. But I would be lying to say that I would not be cautious, as I have seen many of them badly maul their owners or kids in the family.

black90lx
05-16-2010, 06:20 PM
what kills me is when somebody gets attacked by a dog that is for example a pit/lab mix or any little bit pit in it. the news always points out it is a pit mix, why cant they say a lab mix or whatever other dog it is mixed with? even if the dog resembles a pit they say its a pit even if they dont know. i have seen people say there dogs are pitbulls and they really dont even resemble them.

stocknotch
05-16-2010, 06:30 PM
You gotta be real cautious around slow94gt's dogs......they are straight vicious and will LICK you to death if you let them, lol. Black90lx's dog on the other hand used to bite the shit outta me...of course he was 3-4 months old and teething too, lol. They are just like any other dog...you just have to raise them right. I'd love to have one if I had a place to keep it.

Squale iii
05-16-2010, 06:33 PM
He's a killArrRR...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/Vegas-1.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/vegas3.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/vegas2-2.jpg

stocknotch
05-16-2010, 06:51 PM
squale iii...what all is your dog a mix of? I can see a little bit of Pit in his face but thats about it. Its looks like it has alot of boxer in him

Squale iii
05-16-2010, 07:01 PM
squale iii...what all is your dog a mix of? I can see a little bit of Pit in his face but thats about it. Its looks like it has alot of boxer in him

He's full blooded. He's just wierd I suppose. He was the runt of the litter. He's only gonna be 40lbs his whole life. His dad was like 65 and mom was 70lbs. His brothers were all like 15lbs when I went to look at them...and he was only 5lbs LOL. The little fuck wouldn't stop climbing on me tho so I had to get him.

Squale iii
05-16-2010, 07:04 PM
More "pit-like" pic?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/2k10picsnewcamera002.jpg?t=1274050830

Squale iii
05-16-2010, 07:08 PM
I think his ears are deceiving. Makes him look nice. He's really a cat KILLER!!!

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/vegas1.jpg?t=1274050985

My dog gets beat up by this cat if that says anything...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m306/squale_2006/2k10pix016.jpg?t=1274051098

dsmawd350
05-16-2010, 07:45 PM
my killers

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs524.snc3/29808_10150165465280462_511620461_12006201_2343493 _n.jpg

Squale iii
05-16-2010, 08:28 PM
Look at da puppies!!!

black90lx
05-17-2010, 02:29 AM
my killers

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs524.snc3/29808_10150165465280462_511620461_12006201_2343493 _n.jpg

thats my white pit pup in the pic..

black90lx
05-17-2010, 03:11 AM
i tried uploading pics of my viscous dogs but there is no browse button to search for pics on my computer.

Steves LX
05-17-2010, 09:25 AM
I think the reason why the media is fast to point fingers at the pit bull group is because of their history. All it takes is a few attacks and they all get labled as bad dogs. It's just like the people in OTR. The media is quick to point out that there was another shooting or dru deal gone bad or what have you down there or somewhere in the west end. So right away people rush to judgement and lable a lot of African Americans as trouble and bad people. And that's a shame and is not the case. Just like people you shouldn't treat a whole breed of dogs based off of the bad ones. I have a Doberman and a Jack Russell. Our Doberman wouldn't hurt a flea. Our Jack Russell is a very good dog as well. We had another Jack Russell before this one and he was like a light switch. One minute he was your buddy and the next minute it was go time. He was like that when we got him as a pup. Not sure what his parents or siblings were like. So each dog should be judged as an individual not as a breed.

MattKatz
05-17-2010, 09:07 PM
SO am I reading this right....Pit Bulls are Terriers and I see a few posts back that There is a Breed Mixed with a Jack Russsel?

In the opinions here....does anyone consider a Jack Russel an Aggressive breed?
Just curious.

Squale iii
05-17-2010, 09:19 PM
SO am I reading this right....Pit Bulls are Terriers and I see a few posts back that There is a Breed Mixed with a Jack Russsel?

In the opinions here....does anyone consider a Jack Russel an Aggressive breed?
Just curious.

was your car at Rimwerks in kettering today?? I ask b/c I dropped off a wheel to get straightened and saw an SS saying "4 Dr Z06"

MattKatz
05-17-2010, 09:21 PM
No that is Collins SS.....He was getting his wheels back from powdercoating.
My tag is not Custom....his is.
Now back to my Jack Russel Question.

Pitbull1052
05-18-2010, 08:38 AM
here's what Wiki states about the Jack Russel


An important attribute in this dog was a tempered aggressiveness that would provide the necessary drive to pursue and bolt the fox without resulting in physical harm to the quarry and effectively ending the chase, which was considered unsporting.

Dirtyd0g
05-18-2010, 10:05 AM
SO am I reading this right....Pit Bulls are Terriers and I see a few posts back that There is a Breed Mixed with a Jack Russsel?

In the opinions here....does anyone consider a Jack Russel an Aggressive breed?
Just curious.

I consider Jack Russels to be an aggressive breed. Them little dogs think they are 8 feet tall and 400 lbs.
Alan

facemelter71
05-18-2010, 05:46 PM
Yea my Codi "full registered boxer" is freakin aggressive as hell.
You can just see the KILL in his eyes.LOL.
Kinda odd they are lumped into the bully breed though.I was surprised when I heard that.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1296889/codie1.jpg

dsmawd350
05-18-2010, 08:13 PM
SO am I reading this right....Pit Bulls are Terriers and I see a few posts back that There is a Breed Mixed with a Jack Russsel?

In the opinions here....does anyone consider a Jack Russel an Aggressive breed?
Just curious.

Yes an American Pit Bull Terrier is a terrier;)....... APBT's were made by breeding bulldogs of the old days with terriers. the terrier entered when bull baiting and dog fighting became illegal and people needed to find a use for the bulldogs they had created they crossed them with terriers to see how they would do at killing vermin. nobody can say for sure but they were likely bred with the now extinct Old English Terrier and the Black and Tan Terrier not so much the JRT


Jack Russel an agressive breed? agressive toward what? A working JR that is bred to standard and true to its roots I would say yes would easily grab a possum or small coon up in the yard and tear it up it was bred to hunt small "varmints". Human Agressive? maybe a small percent that are bred/raised wrong.

lonestang90
05-23-2010, 08:19 PM
It said huskies are #4 ????? i have a Siberian husky. Great dog, loves kids, gentle with people. I believe it's all on how you treat the dog not the dog itself.

Here's my dog..(Gunner)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4363/1003081204.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/1003081204.jpg/)

Dirtyd0g
05-23-2010, 08:46 PM
Huskies are strange either just big spoiled babies that wouldn't hurt a fly or mean as heck to everyone but their owner.
Alan