Money grabbing Milford cops busted

[Goldenpony]

I've heard about it, now I've seen it for myself. While traveling the 28 Bypass, I saw a Milford cop on an overpass, actually hiding behind a tree with binoculars looking for people not wearing seat belts (luckily, I was wearing mine) Further, around the bend so you couldn't see them, were 2 chase cars waiting.. I really hate cops! It has nothing to do with safety (I've seen Milford cops driving without their seatbelts), it's all about the money. :mad:

[Steves LX]

Every once in awhile there is one that will park on the shoulder on 275. He parks on the shoulder on the westbound side at the bottom of the hill just West of 28. He stands there with binoculars looking back up the hill.

[Mista Bone]

I've heard about it, now I've seen it for myself. While traveling the 28 Bypass, I saw a Milford cop on an overpass, actually hiding behind a tree with binoculars looking for people not wearing seat belts (luckily, I was wearing mine) Further, around the bend so you couldn't see them, were 2 chase cars waiting.. I really hate cops! It has nothing to do with safety (I've seen Milford cops driving without their seatbelts), it's all about the money. :mad:

Wasn't Milford Cops, not their area. Likely Miami Township, which IIRC a member from here serves for them.

I guess Speed Limit signs have nothing to do with safety either, but they are the law just like seat belts.

[facemelter71]

Yea speed limit signs make a huge difference.West bound Muhlhauser from 747 to RT4 posted 35.East bound Muhlhauser from RT4 to 747,posted 45. I have no idea why. I do know that cops sit in Bobcat's parking lot and laser people coming from RT4.Sneaky basterds.

[Goldenpony]

Wasn't Milford Cops, not their area. Likely Miami Township, which IIRC a member from here serves for them.

I guess Speed Limit signs have nothing to do with safety either, but they are the law just like seat belts.

Yea, could have been Miami Township. They're all just roadside tax collectors and pimps for the insurance companies.

I haven't figured out why I can ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but not drive a car without a seat belt. Aren't both a personal choice? No question, you should wear a helmet and a seat belt, but we don't need the heavy hand of the police forcing us to. Sorry, I'm just a Libertarian.

[Rich]

In Ohio, police can not base a stop on a seatbelt violation. There must be another violation.

[Goldenpony]

In Ohio, police can not base a stop on a seatbelt violation. There must be another violation.



That's the way it started out. I believe they can now ticket you for just seat belts.

[djom1cincy]

In Ohio, police can not base a stop on a seatbelt violation. There must be another violation.

Thats what i thouhgt. Has the law changed?

[djom1cincy]

This site says secondary law. Pigs can always fide something to pull you over for.
http://www.iihs.org/laws/safetybeltuse.aspx

[Dirtyd0g]

I thought they changed that law a while back to generate more money from a BS law.
I don't get it, they threw out the helmet law and put a seatbelt law in effect. I still think it should be an adults decision. I am 100% in agreement with the law as it pertains to minors.
Alan

[Goldenpony]

This site says secondary law. Pigs can always fide something to pull you over for.
http://www.iihs.org/laws/safetybeltuse.aspx

Yup. All they have to do is pull you over to check for license/insurance. "Oh, and here's a ticket for not using your seat belt".

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Sadly it seems as though the mentality of "serve and protect" has evolved into "serve and protect when necessary, and acquire revenue for the county to justify my job when not serving and protecting".

[denial]

Again as Rich said, not wearing a seat belt is not probable cause to pull anyone over. There are a few cops that are in here including myself.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Well it's good they passed the whole "it looks like you're speeding" law so that can be probable cause. Oh and while we're at it, you weren't wearing your belt either. :lol:

[Goldenpony]

I've heard a lot of PSAs saying "Cops are watching for seat belt use - day and night" "Click It or Ticket". Probable cause has pretty much gone to the wayside. All the cops see now are dollar signs.

[redfirepearlgt]

I've heard a lot of PSAs saying "Cops are watching for seat belt use - day and night" "Click It or Ticket". Probable cause has pretty much gone to the wayside. All the cops see now are dollar signs.

You got that right. Safety? Come on. I need a safety belt to drive a car while enclosed in a steel frame, yet . . . I can go by a motorcycle capable of running ungodly speeds right off the show room floor and as long as I have a legit license I can ride around with no helmet. No hyprocrisy in the law there. None at all.

If wearig a helmet is a choice, so then should be a seat belt UNLESS as you say it's all about the money and we know that it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

Sorry 2 wheeled fans, not picking on you only making a point that there is a double standard clearly here that benefits local municipalities.

[Mista Bone]

OK, so you don't wanna wear a seat belt.

Injured in a crash, no matter whose fault, you get NO HELP with medical bills.

[Dirtyd0g]

OK, so you don't wanna wear a seat belt.

Injured in a crash, no matter whose fault, you get NO HELP with medical bills.

At least that is a choice we can make for ourselves. Not that I feel seatbelts are the end all solution for prevention of injury from an accident. If it was that important we would all be wearing racing seatbelts.
Alan

[sean]

OK, so you don't wanna wear a seat belt.

Injured in a crash, no matter whose fault, you get NO HELP with medical bills.

It sounds like your taking this little talk kind of personal. You have a little sand in your vagina?

If there is no helmet law (after your first year of being endorsed) there should be no seat belt law. If you or anyone can explain to me why you need a belt in a car when your in something that has to meet certain safety standards but you can be on a bike without a helmet please do. I dont want to be told what I have to do in any case when it comes to belts and helmets.

[Johnny O]

Yea, could have been Miami Township. They're all just roadside tax collectors and pimps for the insurance companies.

I haven't figured out why I can ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but not drive a car without a seat belt. Aren't both a personal choice? No question, you should wear a helmet and a seat belt, but we don't need the heavy hand of the police forcing us to. Sorry, I'm just a Libertarian.
:bigthumb I agree! These cops should be out catching drug dealers, murders and child molesters! But instead they would rather sit on their fat asses with a radar guns Pissing off us loyal people who already pay too much in taxes!

[Mista Bone]

Ever think that maybe they are getting Federal grant money to pay the OT to work this detail????

[Goldenpony]

They'd rather shoot radar or laser at us because real criminals shoot back with bullets.

[draggin50]

Damn what a touchy subject. I am also one that wonders why you dont need a helmet but do need a seat belt. I am also one that would rather make my own decision on if I want to wear a seat belt of if I dont. I dont need some money grubbing politician to make my decisions for me. I can speak just fine for my self! They have to much say so in anything we do nowadays. Next thing you know, we'll be limited to the times we can wipe our own asses to save trees!

[cobrajoe]

:popcorn::drunk:

[Rich]

:bigthumb I agree! These cops should be out catching drug dealers, murders and child molesters! But instead they would rather sit on their fat asses with a radar guns Pissing off us loyal people who already pay too much in taxes!

So tell us...how should cops catch these drug dealers, murders, and child molesters? Is it as simple as driving down the street and finding one? Unfortunately, it's not like Grand Theft Auto, where a giant arrow is over top of the "bad guy", pointing him out. Drug dealers don't walk around with a sign that reads "I have crack in my pocket".

Traffic stops are a vital part of catching bad guys.

[Blackballed]

I thought for sure this would be in the whippin room.

[facemelter71]

I believe it should be my choice to wear a belt or not.Even though I do. My wreck that I had a couple years ago involved a rollover.Had I been wearing my belt,I wouldnt be here.After the accident,they wrote me a ticket for failure to maintain and a seatbelt violation.Thanks,no Its ok Ill cut you a ticket even though It saved your life you werent buckled in.

Oh,and they need to take that fed grant money and instead of payin Leroy the badass to sit on the side of the road and collect overtime,they need to re-hire all the cops they just layed off.So that when I call about my neigbor being beligerant and throwing shit,they can get there in a timely manner.

[draggin50]

So tell us...how should cops catch these drug dealers, murders, and child molesters? Is it as simple as driving down the street and finding one? Unfortunately, it's not like Grand Theft Auto, where a giant arrow is over top of the "bad guy", pointing him out. Drug dealers don't walk around with a sign that reads "I have crack in my pocket".

Traffic stops are a vital part of catching bad guys.

Im with you on this but I do like the Arrow over top of the bad guy idea! Sure would make it easier! I just feel that its my choice on what I do if I want to wear it or not.

[blowncobra]

So tell us...how should cops catch these drug dealers, murders, and child molesters? Is it as simple as driving down the street and finding one? Unfortunately, it's not like Grand Theft Auto, where a giant arrow is over top of the "bad guy", pointing him out. Drug dealers don't walk around with a sign that reads "I have crack in my pocket".

Traffic stops are a vital part of catching bad guys.

I agree traffic stops are a way to see whats going on in the car but don't agree when cops just make shit up to pull you over which happens all the time especially around bar closing time. People should be stopped if their all over the road. There are a ton a dis-honest cops out there which is F***** up!!! Ive been pulled over before and the cop says you went left of center and I wasn't anywhere near that line. It's all fine and good if I break the law but don't make shit up just to pull me over!! And I really love the cops that fly up on your ass to try an make you nervous so you will do something. Well heres what I think of those cops and the dis-honest ones :flipoff:!!!!!!!!

[cobrajoe]

"Sir do you have any knives, razors, hand grenades on your person?" Are you for real? Guess what my answer was, while standing at the back of my truck because i got of WORK at bar closing time? "Nope no grenades, but I do have a button on my dash for my mobile rocket launcher in the back of the truck!" You should have seen the look on that Jackhole's face when he knew I knew he was screwing with me!:lol:

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Yeah one time i got pulled over for going too slow on 32. I thought it was speed LIMIT not minimum? I'll give that cop credit, he was pretty cool and we talked cars for a good half hour (i was driving the coupe) but still he was looking for a drunk or something and used whatever excuse he could pull out of his hat to pull me over. When i asked him isn't it speed limit not speed minimum, he told me i looked suspicious.

[Goldenpony]

A LOT of cops are like Dwight on "The Office". On a power trip and like to push people around. Unfortunately, the state allows them to carry a gun.

[blowncobra]

Gotta love all them "Super Troopers" out there no doubt!!!!!

[JET50213]

Damn! I hear more cop bashing on here than criminal bashing. It's pretty disheartening! I think I'll go see if the Firehouse needs some help!:rolleyes:

[Dirtyd0g]

With Union Township local to most of the people on this board you are going to get that. Everyone agrees UT sucks.
Alan

[djom1cincy]

Last night and today the popo have been stupid heavy. Its all about making money on traffic stops. Who do you think pays majority of court fines? Strung out drug users, murders, thieves, dealers, or the good civilian who works hard every day to make a living and wants no trouble but happens to get a speeding ticket.

[Squale iii]

So tell us...how should cops catch these drug dealers, murders, and child molesters? Is it as simple as driving down the street and finding one? Unfortunately, it's not like Grand Theft Auto, where a giant arrow is over top of the "bad guy", pointing him out. Drug dealers don't walk around with a sign that reads "I have crack in my pocket".

Traffic stops are a vital part of catching bad guys.

Drive through downtown dayton or drive down Salem/Gettysburg...I see arrows pointing at people all the time! LOL

[JET50213]

I know I signed on for a thankless job! I guess I just get sick of the unwarranted hatred sometimes. We do a hell of a lot more than write tickets and generate revenue! Yes, sometimes I have to do things that I do not agree with. That is true with any job.

[djom1cincy]

I know I signed on for a thankless job! I guess I just get sick of the unwarranted hatred sometimes. We do a hell of a lot more than write tickets and generate revenue! Yes, sometimes I have to do things that I do not agree with. That is true with any job.

No one is bashing you in general so dont be getting your feelings hurt.


















PIG SKUM OF THE EARTH

I kid

[JET50213]

Sticks and Stones, you dirty double clutching gear jammer!!!:tongue2:

[djom1cincy]

Sticks and Stones, you dirty double clutching gear jammer!!!:tongue2:

No hard feeling here. Can't afford to hurt my last one.

[denial]

Like always, call us when you need us, hate us when you don't. Doesn't bother me that people have their own opinions about us. Most civilans don't understand the job that we really do.

I chose this job to help people. I enjoy meeting hundreds of people day in and day out. This is the best job in the world and I wouldn't trade it for any other job in the world.

[Dirtyd0g]

Like always, call us when you need us, hate us when you don't. Doesn't bother me that people have their own opinions about us. Most civilans don't understand the job that we really do.

I chose this job to help people. I enjoy meeting hundreds of people day in and day out. This is the best job in the world and I wouldn't trade it for any other job in the world.

Actually I never really feel that I need the police, the only reason I ever call them is to keep myself out of trouble with them. I have known some very good police officers including one of my best friends father and my neighbor growing up. Both of them were great people and truely intended to help. As a majority I think most are this way, on the flip side there are the kids who got picked on in school and got a job working for union township. Labeling anyone as a good or bad person based strictly on their job is a bad idea.
Alan

[cobrajoe]

Well it boils down to the mentality that most of them have....that they are excluded from following the very laws they enforce. Code of blue and don't try to tell me it don't exist. I have witnessed it for myself. Hell I know one fellow that went to be a special (volunteer/part time) deputy just so he can carry that small shield in his wallet so when he opens it up (making sure the fellow officer sees it) he'll get off. :rolleyes:

Do as I say not as I do!!!!!:lol:

[Goldenpony]

Well it boils down to the mentality that most of them have....that they are excluded from following the very laws they enforce. Code of blue and don't try to tell me it don't exist. I have witnessed it for myself. Hell I know one fellow that went to be a special (volunteer/part time) deputy just so he can carry that small shield in his wallet so when he opens it up (making sure the fellow officer sees it) he'll get off. :rolleyes:

Do as I say not as I do!!!!!:lol:

Amen!

[denial]

I have personally wrote tickets for police officers. I wrote a state highway patrol officer about 6 months ago. Needless to say, he was pissed!

[Goldenpony]

I have personally wrote tickets for police officers. I wrote a state highway patrol officer about 6 months ago. Needless to say, he was pissed!


Poor baby!

[Mista Bone]

IMHO speeding is a game of chess, you don't always win. You can choose not to play as well by obeying the limit. Just when you do get busted, quit crying about it and pay the ticket. You knew the risks, pay to play.

Airplane and OSP Instant on = you don't have a chance.

Radar and Laser you have a chance IF you keep your eyes open and pay attention.

[cobrajoe]

IMHO speeding is a game of chess, you don't always win. You can choose not to play as well by obeying the limit. Just when you do get busted, quit crying about it and pay the ticket. You knew the risks, pay to play.

Airplane and OSP Instant on = you don't have a chance.

Radar and Laser you have a chance IF you keep your eyes open and pay attention.

that's why you have to have a "rabbit" in front of you....for the instant on. The more pricier detectors will pick that pulse up!

I don't cry about my tickets! Just think it's bull sh@t that there is a double standard!

[Dirtyd0g]

I find sanctioned racing to relax my driving on the streets. A car full of kids does to....
Alan

[Mista Bone]

that's why you have to have a "rabbit" in front of you....for the instant on. The more pricier detectors will pick that pulse up!

I don't cry about my tickets! Just think it's bull sh@t that there is a double standard!

That rabbit......what if the rabbit is a OSP car you've been following for 80+ miles at 80+ mph???? Like Toledo to Lima. Until the OSP (Ohio State Patrol) put on his left turn signal I wasn't lifting, but about 1/4 to 1/2 mile back. I assumed he was getting over for a broken down car/truck but when he hit the brakes to hit the turn around and I saw the reflection off the side emblem, OH SHIT moment!!!!

Valentine and Escort are both based out of Cincy, nothing more than a testing location IMHO!

[plated]

good ole miami twp,i read this post the other day,they sit at the end of my driveway and pull people over,lastnight i couldn't help my selp i drove down the driveway,knowing he would have to move out of the driveway to let me out,as he pulled out i laughed and backed right back up my driveway,my way of saying "don't do that in my driveway,and i'll do it everytime i see one sitting out there:flipoff:

[djom1cincy]

good ole miami twp,i read this post the other day,they sit at the end of my driveway and pull people over,lastnight i couldn't help my selp i drove down the driveway,knowing he would have to move out of the driveway to let me out,as he pulled out i laughed and backed right back up my driveway,my way of saying "don't do that in my driveway,and i'll do it everytime i see one sitting out there:flipoff:

Ha ha. That's great man. The only time I see them patroling 275 is during a holiday. Usually up under the overpass.

[redfirepearlgt]

The issue in this thread is the STUPID double standard law when you boil it down. Now add to that some stupid law maker (not law enforcement) deciding they want to further enforce their new found law, and some front line guy (cop) gets stuck doing the dirty work. How you enforce that law has a lot to do with how you are viewed. Example - NIOSH writes the safety guidelines for industries across our country. OSHA enforces those laws. you never hear employers complaining about NIOSH, you hear them complaining about OSHA. OSHA inspectors however have the power to look at a situation and determine if a fine should be imposed or if the situation warrants warning or verbal direction. It's up to the OSHA guy, does he look at things through the eyes of the "real world", or does he turn into a legalist that goes strictly by the book?

You all know that there are cops who are cool and cops who have holes in the tops of their heads. I have been written tickets by cops who I thought were cool regardless, and I have been written tickets by power hungry dickheads. It's the choice of the law enforcement officer as to how they approach the issue. have a nice fourth.

To the cool cops, thanks, even when you have cited me. to the dickheads, find another job.

[Goldenpony]

The issue in this thread is the STUPID double standard law when you boil it down. Now add to that some stupid law maker (not law enforcement) deciding they want to further enforce their new found law, and some front line guy (cop) gets stuck doing the dirty work. How you enforce that law has a lot to do with how you are viewed. Example - NIOSH writes the safety guidelines for industries across our country. OSHA enforces those laws. you never hear employers complaining about NIOSH, you hear them complaining about OSHA. OSHA inspectors however have the power to look at a situation and determine if a fine should be imposed or if the situation warrants warning or verbal direction. It's up to the OSHA guy, does he look at things through the eyes of the "real world", or does he turn into a legalist that goes strictly by the book?

You all know that there are cops who are cool and cops who have holes in the tops of their heads. I have been written tickets by cops who I thought were cool regardless, and I have been written tickets by power hungry dickheads. It's the choice of the law enforcement officer as to how they approach the issue. have a nice fourth.

To the cool cops, thanks, even when you have cited me. to the dickheads, find another job.


Well said!

[cobrajoe]

The issue in this thread is the STUPID double standard law when you boil it down. Now add to that some stupid law maker (not law enforcement) deciding they want to further enforce their new found law, and some front line guy (cop) gets stuck doing the dirty work. How you enforce that law has a lot to do with how you are viewed. Example - NIOSH writes the safety guidelines for industries across our country. OSHA enforces those laws. you never hear employers complaining about NIOSH, you hear them complaining about OSHA. OSHA inspectors however have the power to look at a situation and determine if a fine should be imposed or if the situation warrants warning or verbal direction. It's up to the OSHA guy, does he look at things through the eyes of the "real world", or does he turn into a legalist that goes strictly by the book?

You all know that there are cops who are cool and cops who have holes in the tops of their heads. I have been written tickets by cops who I thought were cool regardless, and I have been written tickets by power hungry dickheads. It's the choice of the law enforcement officer as to how they approach the issue. have a nice fourth.

To the cool cops, thanks, even when you have cited me. to the dickheads, find another job.


Well said!

what he said!

[mad max]

They are doin a job that not many of us want to do. How would you guys feel if you walked out your door every morning , not knowing if your gonna come home that day. Yeah they are dickheads , but i believe if you treat them with respect , you will get the same treatment back. We need to discuss our stupid laws with the people who make them , not the guy trying to enforce them. Most laws are created to generate revenue so the politican can keep his 3 assistants and not the police officers pocket. Just my opinion.

[Dirtyd0g]

They are doin a job that not many of us want to do. How would you guys feel if you walked out your door every morning , not knowing if your gonna come home that day. Yeah they are dickheads , but i believe if you treat them with respect , you will get the same treatment back. We need to discuss our stupid laws with the people who make them , not the guy trying to enforce them. Most laws are created to generate revenue so the politican can keep his 3 assistants and not the police officers pocket. Just my opinion.

I believe the same however they need to feel the same. I don't care who they are if they do not treat me with respect I am not going to treat them with respect. I try to be excessively polite when an officer is doing his job, whether Ilike it or not. When they get rude I do the same.
Alan

[mad max]

Im with you on that 100 percent.

[Mista Bone]

Only once has a cop or cops been rude to me, it was during a felony stop in Kenwood. Once I found out why (45 minutes later in the back of squad car!) I understood and the police chief apologized but he was doing his job.

A Civic with blue neon lisc. plate ring was involved in and attempted arm robbery involving a handgun in Deer Park.

OSP are the most professional oh all officers I've met "at their request".....LOL!

Working night shift for nearly 20 years, I got pulled over a lot, normally speeding but never got a ticket as they were looking for drunks.

[Dirtyd0g]

I agree, I have been stopped by OSP and clermont county sheriff's on a few occasions and they always treated me with respect. It is the small town rookies who usually pose a problem. I did get a ticket once sitting in front of a sign that said reduced speed 45 ahead in Cincinnati. They gave me a ticket for 52 in a 35. There were 2 officers, a black guy and a white guy, The white guy was a douche.
Alan

[Camaro86SHOCKER]

So theres a law...you know about this law...and your mad they enforce it?...ok. Worthless rant.
Break the law and pay for it...I really dont get why your so upset. Just put the stupid seat belt on or else pay the fine. It's pretty simple.
I hate when people sit on here and talk bout "hating police" usually when you hate the police it's because you break the law.

[thecollector]

So theres a law...you know about this law...and your mad they enforce it?...ok. Worthless rant.
Break the law and pay for it...I really dont get why your so upset. Just put the stupid seat belt on or else pay the fine. It's pretty simple.
I hate when people sit on here and talk bout "hating police" usually when you hate the police it's because you break the law.

:agree:



I don't always agree with all the aspects of my job but it's still my job like it or not.

Personnel safety should be just that... Personnel, Not a matter of legislation. At the same time not wearing a seatbelt is a law if I choose not to wear one I understand the consequences. I don't always wear my seatbelt cause I am prepared to suffer the consequences if they come about. As much as I could use the money I do not rob banks as I am not willing to suffer the consequences if they come about;).

[cobrajoe]

:popcorn::lol:

[PaulFiveOh]

All I have to say is...FTP. Fucking cocksuckers are tax collectors. Traffic enforcement should be a civil enterprise, not a criminal one. Those police officers who are "tactically" catching speeders should be in school learning how to do real police work. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of drugs that flow through Clermont county. The police do NOTHING to proactively stop this, but of course they will proactively search for someone doing 5 over, because it's easy and not alot of work. What's worse is the same damn police who make drug arrests do drugs them selves. Fucking, Tim Budai of Goshen Police is dating someone who's mom is a known pill dealer in Goshen and he does shit about it.
Christ, there is a CCSO deputy who fucking street races with us...it's just such a farse.
I don't know, I hate the police. I respect real heroes, the dudes who pull people out of burning houses and rescue people off bridges. Not someone who enforces compliance with 20K volts.

[k062693w]

So theres a law...you know about this law...and your mad they enforce it?...ok. Worthless rant.
Break the law and pay for it...I really dont get why your so upset. Just put the stupid seat belt on or else pay the fine. It's pretty simple.
I hate when people sit on here and talk bout "hating police" usually when you hate the police it's because you break the law.

VERY WELL SAID !!! :bigthumb
We had a similar thread on here not long ago ( People BITCHING about the police ) ... Don't break the law and there is nothing to worry about !!!

[Mista Bone]

Welcome back Paul!!!!!

[Mavowar]

VERY WELL SAID !!! :bigthumb
We had a similar thread on here not long ago ( People BITCHING about the police ) ... Don't break the law and there is nothing to worry about !!!


correct but some laws are horse shit and you know it.......

here is a few examples.....taken from http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/ohio


In Ohio, if you ignore an orator on Decoration day to such an extent as to publicly play croquet or pitch horseshoes within one mile of the speaker’s stand, you can be fined $25.Women are prohibited from wearing patent leather shoes in public.It is illegal to fish for whales on Sunday.It is illegal to get a fish drunk.The Ohio driver’s education manual states that you must honk the horn whenever you pass another car.Participating or conducting a duel is prohibited.Breast feeding is not allowed in public. It is illegal for more than five women to live in a house.It is illegal to mistreat anything of great importance.Full text of the law. No one may be arrested on Sunday or on the Fourth of July.


now I don't know about you but if my fish and I want to drink a cold one together that's my fish and mines biznitch........but I suppose now I posted this all the cops on here will tell all the other uniformed city SERVANTS to bust my door down arrest me and make me pay a fine......:lol:

personally I think setbelts like helmets are apersonal choice for anybody old enough to fight and die for their country!!!! andanybody who waves that but the government wants to keep us safe bullshit......some food for thought.......why not equip our troops with the best of the best to keep them safe......cuz it cost to much......it is and always will be about money.....

[denial]

All I have to say is...FTP. Fucking cocksuckers are tax collectors. Traffic enforcement should be a civil enterprise, not a criminal one. Those police officers who are "tactically" catching speeders should be in school learning how to do real police work. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of drugs that flow through Clermont county. The police do NOTHING to proactively stop this, but of course they will proactively search for someone doing 5 over, because it's easy and not alot of work. What's worse is the same damn police who make drug arrests do drugs them selves. Fucking, Tim Budai of Goshen Police is dating someone who's mom is a known pill dealer in Goshen and he does shit about it.
Christ, there is a CCSO deputy who fucking street races with us...it's just such a farse.
I don't know, I hate the police. I respect real heroes, the dudes who pull people out of burning houses and rescue people off bridges. Not someone who enforces compliance with 20K volts.


That's the most intelligent post I have read on this thread! :lol:
I know a guy who dates this girl, who is friends with their friends, and they have other friends that do drugs! Stupid ass cops won't do shit!

[PaulFiveOh]

If you slowed down and read, the police officer's fiance's mom is a drug dealer.

[PaulFiveOh]

Welcome back Paul!!!!!

Howdy Bone! Let's get wasted and argue back and forth soon! :bigthumb <3 you (no homo)

[Goldenpony]

All,

I received the latest copy of Mopar Collector's Guide today and read some very disturbing news for Ohio auto enthusiasts. Back in December a bill, HB 191 (aka the "Monica Durban Law"), passed the House by a landslide and will soon be passed by the Senate if our voices are not heard. I'm not talking about an annoying emissions law or crazy rule about historical tags. The bill will instruct police officers to SEIZE your vehicle and take away your license for a year if they see rapid acceleration, fast driving, burning tires, or street racing. They won't impound it. They will TAKE it and sell it at a state auction! Not only that, but it loosely defines the term "street racing" to include just about anything. Revving your engine at a stop light can be considered taunting or promoting a street race. Again, it is up to the police officer's discretion. If you have a car that could be seen as "souped up", you'll be targeted. If you are just watching someone displaying any form of "street racing", you are equally guilty because you are promoting illegal activity!



A couple years ago a young lady was put in a 6-month coma when a drunk driver was racing a friend on an on-ramp to I-70. The drunk driver was killed. Instead of focusing on the fact that the kid was drunk, they are deciding to "increase the penalties" to "help deter people from entering in a race" and essentially declaring war on any and all performance vehicles in our state!



Don't take my word for it. Read the bill yourself:

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/analysis.cfm?ID=128_HB_191&hf=analyses128/h0191-i-128.htm



We've all seen or heard of bills that threaten our hobby by causing an inconvenience or extra expense, but this one hits very close to home. You don't have to be doing anything wrong or dangerous for a policeman to take your beloved car and charge you with a felony!



By the way, how many of you even heard of this bill??? And it's half way to becoming a law! I urge you to contact your state senator. Below is a link to the state senate where you can find the senator from your area. Each senator has contact information listed and a link to which you can send email.

http://www.ohiosenate.gov/



Here is a link with quick tips for writing an effective letter to legislators.

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=61703



Please pass this along to all your car buddies to prevent the state from giving law enforcement an unprecidented amount of power over us and our hobby.



In the name of horsepower!

Eric Gebert

- President, Tri-State Mopar Club in Cincinnati

[denial]

take it to the track then lol.

[Dirtyd0g]

There it is, don't like laws against illegal street racing then go race in safe controlled environment.
Alan

[02mingryGT]

You guys obviously can't read. If you even rev your motor or accelerate rapidly you can be charged. The law also states that you are not allowed to run NOS on the street. Now you may not care but next will be other power adders just like the food followed the cigarettes.

[k062693w]

take it to the track then lol.


There it is, don't like laws against illegal street racing then go race in safe controlled environment.
Alan

:bigthumb EXACTLY !!! :bigthumb Or run for office and change it that way, But again BITCHING and CRYING like a Fucking 10 year old school girl on a website does NOTHING !!!

[denial]

Since when has it been legal to have nitrous to begin with? You act like they just changed the law. Hey Aaron, isn't usually the ones who have a hell of a driving record that bitch and moan about how wrong the cops are?

Wanna speed with no limits? Go to Germany or go to Montana lol. So much crying going on in here these days. BOO HOO

[Dirtyd0g]

You guys obviously can't read. If you even rev your motor or accelerate rapidly you can be charged. The law also states that you are not allowed to run NOS on the street. Now you may not care but next will be other power adders just like the food followed the cigarettes.

You can be charged with anything or sued for anything, they still have to prove the case.
Alan

[bestracing]

If you don't agree with a law don't sit here and bitch about it. Go out and make a difference and get a bill started to repeal the seat belt law or like the law they are trying to pass above, write you elected officals and have them crush that bill. Signing petitions and bitching on message boards get you nothing but writing actually letters sent by snail mail is taken a little more seriously since they see that you will take the time to do what you say since you took the time to write, and mail a letter.


Since when has it been legal to have nitrous to begin with? You act like they just changed the law. Hey Aaron, isn't usually the ones who have a hell of a driving record that bitch and moan about how wrong the cops are?

Wanna speed with no limits? Go to Germany or go to Montana lol. So much crying going on in here these days. BOO HOO

Not Montana any more. It's 75MPH and 65MPH at night. Just came through there this last week.

[302coupe]

i have a good one for you about milford my mustang was in eastgate at my father inlaws with no mortor i get a peice of mail stating i failed to pay my parking ticket in my mustang. my mustang was never in milford and no motor to even drive there. so i think someone might have stole my license plates and are using them so i go to my father inlaws to check, nope there both still on my car. so i go to court and sit there and then have to give my story i plead not guilty so guess what you get to come to court another day now and plead out your case so im pissed now, i have to take off two days of work to go to court for some cop that cant type so i go the second time to court and come to find out the cop wrote a ticket for an older modle F150 and so when he ran the plate he typed it wrong and lucky me it was the number to my mustang so i guess he didnt know the diff between a truck and a mustang of course the guy with the truck didnt pay it, it had the wrong license number on it so he was in the clear the second time in court they call me up and pull me to the side and tell me what happened and tell me i can go haha didnt wanna look like asses in front of everyone there so yeah thats my run in with Milford PD but i want everyone to know i do respect police and all they do its just stupid mistakes like this that can be avodied by paying attention to what your doing.

[bestracing]

You could have simply called the DA's office and probably gotten it taken care of before ever going to court.

[Goldenpony]

i have a good one for you about milford my mustang was in eastgate at my father inlaws with no mortor i get a peice of mail stating i failed to pay my parking ticket in my mustang. my mustang was never in milford and no motor to even drive there. so i think someone might have stole my license plates and are using them so i go to my father inlaws to check, nope there both still on my car. so i go to court and sit there and then have to give my story i plead not guilty so guess what you get to come to court another day now and plead out your case so im pissed now, i have to take off two days of work to go to court for some cop that cant type so i go the second time to court and come to find out the cop wrote a ticket for an older modle F150 and so when he ran the plate he typed it wrong and lucky me it was the number to my mustang so i guess he didnt know the diff between a truck and a mustang of course the guy with the truck didnt pay it, it had the wrong license number on it so he was in the clear the second time in court they call me up and pull me to the side and tell me what happened and tell me i can go haha didnt wanna look like asses in front of everyone there so yeah thats my run in with Milford PD but i want everyone to know i do respect police and all they do its just stupid mistakes like this that can be avodied by paying attention to what your doing.




Milford cops are right out of Reno 911/Police Acadamy. I mean, screwing the mayor while on duty??? What's scary is, they give these guys GUNS.

[302coupe]

i agree with you on that one can you say " The Police Academy Milford Edition"