dam kids

[mustangkuhn90lx]

i was wondering if i'm the only person that wanted to whip another person's kid i just pulled into a spot at walmart and was getting ready to get out and i seen a kid runing around the back of my car and i waited then the kid ran right in to the mirror and knocked it right off the car it might only be a focus but thats not the point doesn't anyone watch there kids anymore if i did that shit as a kid my mom would have beat my ass then asked the guy if he wanted to beat my ass too

[draggin50]

Thats the way I was raised. My step dad ruled with fear and you didnt fuck up or you got the hell beat out of you. Anymore these kids do what they please and tell the parents how its gonna be. I got a couple kids and if they mess up they know whats going to happen. And on the other hand I got 2 step kids and they try to do as the please just cause I dont touch them but that is about to change soon. Im sure not happy how these kids are brought up now a days...

[redfirepearlgt]

That's what happens when the parent has the power of discipline torn from their child raising tool box, and turned over to "the village". Remember the book. "It takes a Village"? Well there you have. To many people think that quack Dr. Spock was right back inthe late 60's. Like everything else during that time he was screwed in the head as well. After all if his child raising theory had worked so well his son would not have committed suicide at age 19.

I knew that if we had decided to have kids we would have problems with raising a child being we were raised the same way you both were raised, you screw up you paid the price if you got caught, and you eventually got caught. Therefore fifteen years into my marriage we still do not have nor plan to have kids. What is the point? Have them so that society can dictate how you raise them? Then what? They get into trouble at age 15 and you have to foot the bill. You spank their behinds and you go to jail. SCREW IT!! Not worth having them just to be in the norm, satisfy procreation, and help create grandparents.

[Ranger50]

They need leash laws for the mismannered 2-legged variety of kids as they do the furry 4-legged variety of kids.

Also I have really come to the conclusion, you really need a license to breed. But then again, less government is the answer.

Brian

[mwaller5672]

Thats is a sad way to think. I'm 57 and as far as I'm concerned kids are the world. To miss having and raising a kid is like no other experience you can have. You can't buy it.
You are missing the most fantastic thing you can experience in life.

[Mista Bone]

I only had to spank my son ONCE, after that if I raised my voice he snapped into line.

I didn't learn so well as a kid :) Many a wood yardsticks were busted over my behind!

[2007ShelbyCobra]

i was wondering if i'm the only person that wanted to whip another person's kid i just pulled into a spot at walmart and was getting ready to get out and i seen a kid runing around the back of my car and i waited then the kid ran right in to the mirror and knocked it right off the car it might only be a focus but thats not the point doesn't anyone watch there kids anymore if i did that shit as a kid my mom would have beat my ass then asked the guy if he wanted to beat my ass too

apparently your daddy didnt give you a good enough whippin, your still shoping at walmart!

Yes, I know what you mean. Kids even younger than myself dont have respect for anything, and I rarely if EVER see people hold doors for others and common courtesy.

[redfirepearlgt]

Thats is a sad way to think. I'm 57 and as far as I'm concerned kids are the world. To miss having and raising a kid is like no other experience you can have. You can't buy it.
You are missing the most fantastic thing you can experience in life.

Hey boomer, opinions are like butts, everyone has one. Glad you have enjoyed your kid(s). I assume one of you stayed home and raised your children, or at least spent more than 2 hours a night with them before running them off to their rooms so you could have time with the mrs. Your opinion has no bearing on whether or not a person these days could raise a kid to turn out correctly because of nut cases like Hillary Clinton and Dr. Spock from your generation thinking they know how to better raise children than everyone else.

What I am not missing is the constant hassle of people sticking their nose into my business with regard to child rearing, wasted money on children who have become self centered and selfish because society wants to dictate my child raising tactics, and allowing kids to run my household. No thank you. I am missing anything IN MY OPINION.

I guess the next comment from you will be, "Who will take care of you when you get old"? Now there is a real selfless reason to have kids right there. Yeah, have kids only so they can take care of you when you get old. Who is to say your very own "bundles of joy" will not put you in a nursing home and come see you once a month when the rent is due?

Appreciate your opinion, just remember its YOUR opinion. Don't express it as fact. I can give you 1000 reasons why people who have kids should have never had them to begin with. First and foremost would be the fact that they thought it would be fun and then found out it wasn't and began dumping them at a daycare each day.

[redfirepearlgt]

apparently your daddy didnt give you a good enough whippin, your still shoping at walmart!

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are.

[mwaller5672]

That is just my opinion. We are with our kids so much sometimes they ask us to stay home. My older daughter became interested in the civil war. We spent our weekends and vacation going to reinactments and battle fields all over the eastern US. I was pissed when she got older and uninvited me. My younger daughter loved horses so we bought 2 miniature horsed with carts. We are always at the horse park or a show somewhere. My wife actually drives the bus she did ride until she got her liscense. We are very active in band boosters. I could go on and on but I already have. We have had no drug problems or drinking problems. My older daughter is gifted and the younger is a senior in the honors class at EC and is going to Thomas Moore. Yes we did spank our kids when they was younger and yes we did have spock. The book is a guide line and that is all. It lets you know about where they should be in life. You have to be smart enough to know when things get stupid in the book.

[thecollector]

I don't read a book to learn how to parent, but I didn't choose to not have kids out of fear someone would tell me how to raise them. If someone has a problem with it they can shove it up their Ar$e. A coworker of mine recently had some problems with his daughter which resulted in her calling the Clermont County Sherrifs office via 911 for "abuse". After arriving and assessing the situation the deputy told her the next time he called her out he would take her to Juvvy after her dad got done beating her ass for wasting his time:).

Every time I go to wal-mart I see some kid getting beat in there, so it's clearly not illegal to discipline children. Im not some crazy violent parent who beats kids constantly and leaves them bruised and bloody but I will say sometimes a spanking is the only real option. A few light spankings early in life can prevent a cop from wrestling/tasing your 17 year old son for being out of control.

Doctors are starting to see a trend back towards corpral punishment so as the pendelum swings back the other way less of these cases will be prosecuted. This isn't New Jersey or LA county. This is corn country, prosecutions for parents isn't common unless there are other issues in play. Joe deters has better things to do. I know there exists a huge backstage regarding hospitals seeking out abuse cases for funding (Cincinnati children's recieve's a specific chunk of federal money for EACH "abuse" case they treat). When my brother took his daughter in for an broken arm it seemed as if they were trying to coach her into saying things. How do you twist a 7 year olds words???:confused:


The bottom line is if your kid needs put in line do it or when they get older someone else will, be it a beat down or incarceration.

[mwaller5672]

I think we actually agree on more that we disagree. A swat on the butt agt age 3 works great. I'm going to have to say this again though. Walmart doesn't count. There can be some odd people in there. There kids might not be on the straight and narrow but there family tree is.:lol:

[mustangkuhn90lx]

i'm sorry someone wants to say shit to me about busting my kids ass when they need it can go suck a dead dogs dick if they are acting wrong they will get the act right medicine and it puts them right in line i don't care how old they are they show off in front of there friends when they are 17 i will still put them on the ground and bust there ass

[Blackout]

i'm sorry someone wants to say shit to me about busting my kids ass when they need it can go suck a dead dogs dick if they are acting wrong they will get the act right medicine and it puts them right in line i don't care how old they are they show off in front of there friends when they are 17 i will still put them on the ground and bust there ass

amen......

I'm a foster parent and the 5 kids that I have as fosters can literally get away with murder and us as acting parents can't do anything about it. But when it comes to my 3 kids...well they get whipped. The law, that everyone likes to throw around is swats to the rear end with an open hand only. I don't think this is right but that's just the way it is. Man, when I was a kid and I did something wrong, my mom would get the greenest limb off the Willow tree and wear me out with it. Now as far as my father, well I didn't even go there, I new better than to act up around him.

It all just shows how society changes people and there outlooks on how to raise kids. and what also pisses me off is when someone tries to tell me how to raise my kids when they don't even have any. The fundamentals of the way our parents were raised and even the religion that was instilled into them, most had somewhat religious families. And with mine stated "if you spare the rod, you spare the child" that is enough to say that punishment for our children is a nessesity and makes them grow into respectible adults.

This is such a touchy subject for alot of people, so just remember that what we teach our kids, they will most likely pass it down to their's.

[DeckerEnt]

When it comes down to it, rules are rules. We teach our kids the rules. Then it is the kids job to see how far they can bend the rules. They will push and push. There needs to be a point where the rule is broken and the kid needs to know that. Whether it is a "time out" or a swat on the ass, the kids need to know where the line is. If they don't, they will keep pushing until someone gets hurt or worst. As a parent I have to enforce the rules, and dish out the punishment when due.
Throw my divorce into the mix and it is going to get complicated real quick. I will have my rules at my house, the EX will have her rules at her place. It is going to take the kids a while figuring out that the rules at Mom's are way more bendable than at Dad's.

[Mavowar]

Kids are your immortality.......

Period

They are worth the risk.

Period

To those that choose not to have kids I feel sorry for you....
for when you die your bloodline comes to an end and you do yourself and your ancestors who went through whatever trails they had to.....to get you here in the now....a disservice or least if not an out right insult.

I would give all that I have if my wife and I could have kids.....9 years and counting.....notta......:(

but I raised one niece for 5 years(awesome)and I watch my lil bros daughter when I can:bigthumb

[redfirepearlgt]

Kids are your immortality.......

Period

They are worth the risk.

YOUR OPINION!

Period

To those that choose not to have kids I feel sorry for you....
for when you die your bloodline comes to an end and you do yourself and your ancestors who went through whatever trails they had to.....to get you here in the now....a disservice or least if not an out right insult.

YOUR OPINION!

I would give all that I have if my wife and I could have kids.....9 years and counting.....notta......:(


Sorry you can't have kids and want them. Maybe you will. That is your hope and I would not disrespect that. Show the same to those of us who choose not to.

but I raised one niece for 5 years(awesome)and I watch my lil bros daughter when I can:bigthumb

That's great!!

As for your attempt at nobility and carrying the family name, and attempting to make others feel guilty for a decision they (we) have made, again your opinion. My father had no brothers. My grandfather's only brother was a bachelor and had no children we know of. My great grandfather was an only son. So yes I weighed out the future very thoughtfully over the years before I got married for the first time at age 31. My wife was in the same mind of thought. I don't pass judgement on those who wish to continue to have children in a world that keeps getting worse, and I will be damned if I will sit by and allow you or others to pass judgement on me for deciding otherwise. There are many other reasons why we did not have children that is as well a MAJOR factor in our decision and again none of your damn business, so again don't pass judgement on others becasue they do not fit your mind thought of "The world according to Mavowar". Otherwise, have a great week.

[mwaller5672]

Kids also teach you to be a better person. I work with a few people with no kids and they are rather self centered and money tends to be there kid. Kids teach you what it's means to give up things for them. My wife gave up a job at Monsanto to stay homee and take care of our kids. That doesn't mean I think everyone should do that. Some just plain can't.

[BlazinEagle]

So just because my wife and I have decided not to have kids we are not right? How many kids out there have shitty parents or parents that use them as a shoulder bag? It was not an easy decision by any means but it is one that we made together. I have plenty of nieces and nephews. I also am the god parent to my friends kids. I enjoy the time I spend with them, but I also know that I can always send them home! In my opinion it takes a bigger man to choose what is best for your family than just to have kids because you can or are supposed to.
I am not self centered at all. I have worked hard for everything in my life. I put myself through the last years of high school, got a 4 year degree from UC, and have a wonderful house. I have made plenty of sacrifices in my life and I will always go out of my way to help another before I do anything for myself.

[redfirepearlgt]

So just because my wife and I have decided not to have kids we are not right? How many kids out there have shitty parents or parents that use them as a shoulder bag? It was not an easy decision by any means but it is one that we made together. I have plenty of nieces and nephews. I also am the god parent to my friends kids. I enjoy the time I spend with them, but I also know that I can always send them home! In my opinion it takes a bigger man to choose what is best for your family than just to have kids because you can or are supposed to.
I am not self centered at all. I have worked hard for everything in my life. I put myself through the last years of high school, got a 4 year degree from UC, and have a wonderful house. I have made plenty of sacrifices in my life and I will always go out of my way to help another before I do anything for myself.

Mega Dittos!!! Well said.

[Mavowar]

That's great!!

As for your attempt at nobility and carrying the family name, and attempting to make others feel guilty for a decision they (we) have made, again your opinion. My father had no brothers. My grandfather's only brother was a bachelor and had no children we know of. My great grandfather was an only son. So yes I weighed out the future very thoughtfully over the years before I got married for the first time at age 31. My wife was in the same mind of thought. I don't pass judgement on those who wish to continue to have children in a world that keeps getting worse, and I will be damned if I will sit by and allow you or others to pass judgement on me for deciding otherwise. There are many other reasons why we did not have children that is as well a MAJOR factor in our decision and again none of your damn business, so again don't pass judgement on others becasue they do not fit your mind thought of "The world according to Mavowar". Otherwise, have a great week.

Oh, I respect you for knowing what you want out of life......
but we will have to disagree on the rest....
and I do not think anybody is bad or loser for not having children...
I still feel sorry to those that choose not to have children and could otherwise.......

maybe it is for the best that you do not.......
as you clearly stated there was some personal stuff that is none of my "DAMN" ;) business I could speculate a thousand reasons......some good, some bad ,but until you tell me directly I will still think well of you.

It would seem to me that a struck a nerve and I will apologize to a point.......

but having said that......I do not view the world as Mavowar.......My name is Lance. I have walked some dark roads and as a result I try not judge people.......in cases like this any time you or I express our point of view/opinion be it fact or not, we put ourselves out there to be judged by everybody who would take the time to read our replies.......

So, what I am saying is if it bothers you that bad to here somebodty disagree with you maybe you should stop posting and putting yourself out there to be judged.......just food for thought

[chadomac]

:popcorn:

[redfirepearlgt]

Kids are your immortality.......

Period

They are worth the risk.

Period

To those that choose not to have kids I feel sorry for you....
for when you die your bloodline comes to an end and you do yourself and your ancestors who went through whatever trails they had to.....to get you here in the now....a disservice or least if not an out right insult.

The above statement presents itself when I read it as fact according to you. You do not state it as opinion, your opinion, your view, or otherwise. Herein lies the struck nerve. Had you expressed this as your opinion and not presented it so matter of factly I would have accepted that and moved on to other things. It drips with condemnation of all who view this in a different light than you do. Disagree? fine. This comment goes beyond that of differing opinion within the manner it has been presented.

I would give all that I have if my wife and I could have kids.....9 years and counting.....notta......:(

but I raised one niece for 5 years(awesome)and I watch my lil bros daughter when I can:bigthumb


Oh, I respect you for knowing what you want out of life......
but we will have to disagree on the rest....
and I do not think anybody is bad or loser for not having children...
I still feel sorry to those that choose not to have children and could otherwise.......

maybe it is for the best that you do not.......
as you clearly stated there was some personal stuff that is none of my "DAMN" ;) business I could speculate a thousand reasons......some good, some bad ,but until you tell me directly I will still think well of you.

It would seem to me that a struck a nerve and I will apologize to a point.......

I appreciate that. Apology excepted. Our choice thoughout our 15 years of marriage niether makes us or other married couples who have made similar decisions superior nor inferior to those who wish to procreate.

but having said that......I do not view the world as Mavowar.......My name is Lance. I have walked some dark roads and as a result I try not judge people.......in cases like this any time you or I express our point of view/opinion be it fact or not, we put ourselves out there to be judged by everybody who would take the time to read our replies.......

We all have trials through life and ghosts in our closets. No one is above that. That neither makes you or I or anyone else any better or any the lesser than the next person.

So, what I am saying is if it bothers you that bad to here somebody disagree with you maybe you should stop posting and putting yourself out there to be judged.......just food for thought

Disagree with me and I will still respect you tomorrow and the next. Dictate how I or others should think on an opinionated subject such as this and expect can be challenged. Thought for the week. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me on any topic whatsoever. I always try to express my opinions as such and not as mortal fact. I enjoy debate and conversation. It is a part of being individuals with free thought. That is what makes this country great.

So in the end we will agree to agree that you don't agree. I respect and enjoy many of the kids of the friends I have made on this site. I embrace and congratulate those who wish to have children. There are many of which I continue to encourage to get their newborns out and show them off to us and enjoy seeing them when they do. Couples like us who choose not to have children aren't the nasty little man in "Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang" that hates children. We just have decided for our personal reasons that we prefer not to have any.

I know I got very heated up by your comments and should not have used the profanity I chose. I do apologize for not keeping my frustration under better control with regard to choice of words.

Hope you find the way to have your children you desire so much. Good luck. Sorry Chadomac no popcorn tonight. LOL!

[Johnny O]

Walmart doesn't count. There can be some odd people in there. There kids might not be on the straight and narrow but there family tree is.:lol:[/quote]

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ :lol::lol::lol:

[Mista Bone]

BlazinEagle, I agree with your point, your and your wife's choice.

My parents stop at one (me) perfectly healthy kid as mom was 30 when I was born. Back then the risk of Down's from women getting pregnant when over thirty was a lot higher. They decided one was enough.

My family, I wanted a second child, hopefully a girl (to spoil rotten!) but a failed marriage ruined that. He has grown up near perfectly and just got married last Friday. There is only one think left he could do to make me happy, make me a grandpa, no rush. They are planning on waiting 4+ years or more.

Or maybe no kids at all, or adopt. Whatever their choice, not mine to interfere.

I have a god-grandson in MI, born into a group of oure evil, Jayson will either be a saint or Satan himself.

I didn't get to stick around for all of my sons wedding reception, freaking work!

Vinny would be proud.....as I am.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=836809215511

[Mavowar]

It's all good......i try not to take comments made on the internet to heart......
it is to hard to get implied meanings unlike a face to face chat....

and it happens to us all .....after rereading what I wrote I could see how you got "worked" up;)

anyway KIDS RULE and kiddless people drool:D;):lol: j/k (so yea I drool at thispoint :( )

[redfirepearlgt]

It's all good......i try not to take comments made on the internet to heart......
it is to hard to get implied meanings unlike a face to face chat....

and it happens to us all .....after rereading what I wrote I could see how you got "worked" up;)

anyway KIDS RULE and kiddless people drool:D;):lol: j/k (so yea I drool at thispoint :( )

God willing you won't have to drool for long. Good luck. wee you around the town. :bigthumb:bigthumb

[Blowpastyou]

I didnt think I ever wanted to have kids. My son Evan was born 16 days ago, and it changed my life. 8-9 months ago.... I was singing a different tune. I was scared, mad, worried I wasnt preparred to be a father (mentally or financially). And it wasnt until he was born, I realized....None of this will be a problem. Im as ready as im ever going to be, and as long as I do good by him nothing else matters to me for now. For those people that do not want to have children....Its your decision. But your missing out on the greatest thing that I have experienced in life.

[Blowpastyou]

And on a side note.... Im not going to be scared to tan his hyde if he "bends or breaks" any rules.

[IWRBB]

i just pulled into a spot at walmart

There's your sign...

[big cheif]

He who spares the rod hates his son,but he who loves him is careful to disipline him. holy bible new international version. Enough said!:)