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Bayman
07-15-2010, 08:31 PM
Heres what Im looking at.
Heard a tick from the drivers side head during acceleration..
Checked the oil- about 2 quarts low.
Put the scope on it, and to me it all sounded in the upper end. like a camshaft bearing.

Dropped the car off at Middletown Ford to confirm my suspicion and first thing they said " how do you get this thing in reverse?" ( ive got the T-56 6 speed iin it, but my shift knob is labeled correctly to match)

Should have known right then and there it was going to be a mistake.
Two hours later they called and said I need a new long block because of bad wrist pin in the # 3 and 4 cylinders..
If they were able to break that engine down and figure that, in two hours, they should be working for NASCAR.
When I asked why I just dont get mine rebuilt, and new cylinders, rods, rings, etc.. They said it would be more expensive
Im calling bullshit on them!

Ive since called Cincy Speed and Modular Depot, to weigh out some options even if they are right.

Granted i have a vortec and intercooler on there which my stock internals may not be able to hold,
but Im not completely sure about getting the aluminator, and replacing it due to my bank account.

At 63,000 miles, its too nice to part out and reccoop the money I just spent to buy the car 4 months ago..

Anyway, theres the history, other than the original owner passing away 4-5 years ago, and the daughters inheriting it.

Ill need alot of stuff swapped out on the new and/or rebuilt short block
headers, s/charger fuel rails, etc. and all the normal accesories..
Just dont want to have the same thng happen to me again

Now, like I said Ive tried to weigh out some options
Having just paid cash for the car, and also looking another 6-7 grand in a new aluminator with install, Im considering selling it.

Looking for feedback- Whats it worth as it sits ?
What would it be worth with a new and or rebuilt engine?


Mods/Description that I can think of, off the top of my head..
Exterior- Red, sunroof, Side exit exhaust, side scoops,real cobra R's (even have a 5th for a spare) on black leather
Drivetrain- T 56 6 speed, short throw aluminum driveshaft, 31 spline axles, 4.10 gears, Auburn Pro taction Lock

Engine -Vortech with intercooler (battery relocated to trunk)
custom fuel rails
42 lb injectors
255 in tank fuel pump
Billet fuel pressure regulator63,000 miles

Lowered, sub frame connectors, Steeda Upper and lower control arms
Exhaust- FMs shorties, Bassani x, Dynomax turbo side exhaust


Lots of other stuff Im forgetting.. but you get the point that its heavily modified, low miles, etc

Made 490 horse, 400 tq
I havent had it but about 4 months and really only drive the thing 8 miles one -way to work everyday.
But again- Looking for some feedback..

thecollector
07-15-2010, 11:54 PM
The dealership probably wasn't BSing you on cost comparo for what their labor rate is. Ford has gotten very competitive with itsits dealer engine sales program. If they rebuild they'll have to outsource the machining and piece it together with a healthy markup on everything add on the labor and a dealer reman can be cheaper.

I say if its not your DD and you have space buy some pizza and beer and throw a stangbangerz 4 valve yanking party. Have it rebuilt by a local shop of your choosing with some robust parts and throw another party for the reinstall.

If its your daily your kinda stuck paying R&R labor, but id still get it out of the dealership to somewhere like dayton performance. I've been out of the blue oval line tech game for 5 years but when I was in the dealership setting their was only a few guys I woulda trusted to time a 4 valve and none of them were the heavy engine guys...

Good luck on a decision I hope to never make, hope you have a spare vehicle.

Bayman
07-16-2010, 10:33 AM
Thanks for the good advice..
Might have to do the yanking party.. errr that doesn't sound right..
I do have a normal daily driver, although it might be on its last leg.. at least that buys me some time to make a decision until my emotions calm down..
It's a bitch when your mustang isn't running good in the middle of summer.
Probably leaning towards the Ford racing aluminator right now, at least that way Ill get to turn up the boost, and love the car even more later down the road..

thecollector
07-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Give me the frpp part# for the aluminator and ill see what kinda price I can get you.

Bayman
07-17-2010, 01:37 AM
Really ? Wow, thanks!
Moduar Depot is the one who turned me on to the Aluminator, but they dont release part numbers..
Although i think ive found it here..
I need the 96-98 version for superchargers..
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M6009A46SCB
Might also consider the long block version based on pricing, but I think i can et a good set of port and polished heads for a grand-ish.
Thanks you Soooo much for
1. Even offering to help
2. Anything you can do with pricing.
Ive also considered using the mmr 900 mentioned here :
http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

Thank you soo much again!
Jeff

Johnny O
07-17-2010, 02:00 AM
Really ? Wow, thanks!
Moduar Depot is the one who turned me on to the Aluminator, but they dont release part numbers..
Although i think ive found it here..
I need the 96-98 version for superchargers..
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/M6009A46SCB
Might also consider the long block version based on pricing, but I think i can et a good set of port and polished heads for a grand-ish.
Thanks you Soooo much for
1. Even offering to help
2. Anything you can do with pricing.
Ive also considered using the mmr 900 mentioned here :
http://www.modularmustangracing.com/

Thank you soo much again!
Jeff
MMR has a new warranty which sounds like a sweet deal. Here is a link http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1238327

Bayman
07-17-2010, 12:48 PM
Tanks Johnny I saw that, and really debating theirs vs the Ford racing one.

Johnny O
07-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Tanks Johnny I saw that, and really debating theirs vs the Ford racing one.

Well my MMR engine should be finished and tuned by mid Aug. Ill let you know if I have any issues with it. Either way Ford Racing has great engines too. Good luck with your build.

Bayman
07-18-2010, 08:47 PM
Thanks again. Its a decision I dont want to make, but please keep me posted.

Bayman
08-26-2010, 01:00 AM
Johnny..
Give me an update..

I still havent done anything with my car and had a decent offer to sell it..