Have you ever seen a 58 RWHP gain from headers?

[mystichris@MD]

Tim brought us a stone stock '08 GT 500 to have a supercharger put on with the only exsisting mod being axle back mufflers We decided on the new Vortech/Lyscholm 3.3 twin screw supercharger. When doing GT 500 aftermarket blower cars they are usually installed with a set of headers. We were slightly disappointed in the power numbers with 640 RWHP at 19#.


The customer brought it back under our recomendation for a performance exhaust. We installed Kooks 1 7/8" headers, 3" catted mid-pipe and the exsisting FRPP mufflers. We threw her back on the dyno and saw the RWHP numbers jump up to 707 RWHP, which is an increase of 58 RWHP and 42 RWTQ! :banghead2

Check out the video and pics of Tim's amazing ride!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSnJ4cyreOY&feature=player_embedded

[Whyucryn]

I know how it can pick up a minimum of 20-30 more if you're interested.

[cobra429boss]

Take it to cincy speed ??? LMAO

[cobraman302]

Got a before and after dyno/graph? Looks like a good spike at the end, maybe more like 705RWHP or so. Great gains though!

[Whyucryn]

Well that would be a step in the right direction...making sure Adam (slow94gt) is behind the keyboard is the next thing to work on!

[Black Horse]

Was there an Opossum living in the old Muffler?

[RIXXX93GT]

"Take it to cincy speed ??? LMAO"


"Well that would be a step in the right direction...making sure Adam (slow94gt) is behind the keyboard is the next thing to work on!"





These are the kind of posts I think most people are more than a little tired of. Guy posts an innocent enough post and POW right in the kisser. :rolleyes:

[Sharad]

These are the kind of posts I think most people are more than a little tired of. Guy posts an innocent enough post and POW right in the kisser. :rolleyes:

http://cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/072010/Albert_Einstein.jpg

[Sharad]

if it's any consolation Chris, as soon as I read your thread, I emailed the link to my dad. His '09 GT500 has plenty of mods (installed by you guys) but a stock blower. He was like, "That's Me!!!"

So at least your intended audience will get the point! ;)

[kennebellcobra]

"Take it to cincy speed ??? LMAO"


"Well that would be a step in the right direction...making sure Adam (slow94gt) is behind the keyboard is the next thing to work on!"





These are the kind of posts I think most people are more than a little tired of. Guy posts an innocent enough post and POW right in the kisser. :rolleyes:

X2.... I bet my Dad can beat up yours:rolleyes:

We are lucky to have even one shop close. I hear of people having to trailor their cars 4+hrs just to get on a dyno.

[mystichris@MD]

These are the kind of posts I think most people are more than a little tired of. Guy posts an innocent enough post and POW right in the kisser. :rolleyes:


if it's any consolation Chris, as soon as I read your thread, I emailed the link to my dad. His '09 GT500 has plenty of mods (installed by you guys) but a stock blower. He was like, "That's Me!!!"

So at least your intended audience will get the point! ;)


X2.... I bet my Dad can beat up yours:rolleyes:

We are lucky to have even one shop close. I hear of people having to trailor their cars 4+hrs just to get on a dyno.



Thanks for the support guys. :bigthumb

[mystichris@MD]

Got a before and after dyno/graph? Looks like a good spike at the end, maybe more like 705RWHP or so. Great gains though!

Yeah it was very impressive and satisfying to see this new blower put down the power that it should.


The dyno sheet I posted is before and after the exhaust. Yeah I think 705 is about right. I wrote in my first post 707 RWHP, which is what I calculated the gain off of and not the 717 spike.

[mystichris@MD]

if it's any consolation Chris, as soon as I read your thread, I emailed the link to my dad. His '09 GT500 has plenty of mods (installed by you guys) but a stock blower. He was like, "That's Me!!!"

So at least your intended audience will get the point! ;)

Awesome :bigthumb

Tell your dad if he needs anything or wants to do anything else to his Shelby I can help him out.

[mystichris@MD]

Was there an Opossum living in the old Muffler?

Must have been a whole family of them. :lol:

It actually had the same Ford Racing mufflers on it then, but the rest of the exhaust was stock.

[Dirtyd0g]

Thats a good gain, I have installed several sets of those exact headers and I recommend them to everyone. Easy installation, perfect fit, great sound and performance.
Now some of the rest of you need:HYF:
Alan

[Sharad]

Awesome :bigthumb

Tell your dad if he needs anything or wants to do anything else to his Shelby I can help him out.


Thanks, I will. Warranty-wise, is he better off having you guys install the FRPP 3.4 or the Vortech 3.3?

[mystichris@MD]

Thats a good gain, I have installed several sets of those exact headers and I recommend them to everyone. Easy installation, perfect fit, great sound and performance.
Now some of the rest of you need:HYF:
Alan

Yeah, we were impressed. The car sounded like an animal on the dyno; almost hurt your ears even if you were not in the shop.

Kooks and American Racing are my favorite headers; like you said the fit, finish and quality is second to none.

[Metcalf Racing]

So was it just the headers or did you do x or H pipe and re tune it?

[mystichris@MD]

Thanks, I will. Warranty-wise, is he better off having you guys install the FRPP 3.4 or the Vortech 3.3?

Technically his engine warranty would be void even with just a pulley on his stock blower. The only aftermarket supercharger that protects the engine warranty is the Ford Racing TVS supercharger and it has to be installed within the first couple months of ownership and I think it's only a 12 month warranty.

You can't go wrong with either the FRPP 3.4 or the Whipple 3.3.

[mystichris@MD]

So was it just the headers or did you do x or H pipe and re tune it?

We did the Kooks 1 7/8 headers and matching catted mid-pipe. We did just a couple small tweaks on the tune e.g. turn the heaters up in the O2s and we put it on the dyno to see what the RWHP #s were.

[plated]

for the price of kooks and exhuast for that car it better pick up a ton of power,how much was the bill on exhaust and installation$ 2,800? good numbers but pricey!

[mystichris@MD]

for the price of kooks and exhuast for that car it better pick up a ton of power,how much was the bill on exhaust and installation$ 2,800? good numbers but pricey!

Kooks are expensive, but they are some of the best out there. Nah, pricing including install was under $2K.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Considering it's forced induction and you stepped up to 1 7/8 and 3 inch exhaust, i'm not REAL surprised but that is a pretty damn impressive gain. I guess it's like they say, the faster you can get exhaust out, the faster air can get in, and the more power you're gonna see.

[Rick93coupe]

Poor Adams nuts must drag the ground with all the extra weight he lugs around. :rolleyes:

[Black03SVT]

640-707= 67 rwhp gain.....Right????

[Whyucryn]

Poor Adams nuts must drag the ground with all the extra weight he lugs around. :rolleyes:

Don't be mad just because even standing up you're still eye level to most mens balls.

[03z06vette]

:eek::lol:
Don't be mad just because even standing up you're still eye level to most mens balls.

[331TwistedWedge]

Well that would be a step in the right direction...making sure Adam (slow94gt) is behind the keyboard is the next thing to work on!

real nice post there guy, you're really supportive :HYF:

nice gains chris :bigthumb

[Rick93coupe]

Don't be mad just because even standing up you're still eye level to most mens balls.

From this view I can see you need a bib, looks like you might have got some on your shirt. =]

[mystichris@MD]

640-707= 67 rwhp gain.....Right????

I know it's hard to see the numbers in the dyno graph, but the pre-header run was 649 RWHP

[9cobra4]

Take it to cincy speed ??? LMAO


Well that would be a step in the right direction...making sure Adam (slow94gt) is behind the keyboard is the next thing to work on!

Come on guys, I support Modular Depot, but you don't see me talking shit on Cincy Speed when he posts up a thread, show some etiquette and grow up.

[Black03SVT]

I know it's hard to see the numbers in the dyno graph, but the pre-header run was 649 RWHP

Ok....still a nice gain...:bigthumb

[03svt]

Wow this is the same direction my thread went please don't tell me SBZ is on its way to being a ricer forum and just bashing everyone.
Nice job MD can ya get that out of my 03 :)

[mystichris@MD]

Wow this is the same direction my thread went please don't tell me SBZ is on its way to being a ricer forum and just bashing everyone.
Nice job MD can ya get that out of my 03 :)

Thanks! :bigthumb I'm sure we can get you there. We just had an '04 Cobra on the dyno yesterday that made 711 RWHP. :eek:

[RIXXX93GT]

Come on guys, I support Modular Depot, but you don't see me talking shit on Cincy Speed when he posts up a thread, show some etiquette and grow up.

My point exactly! People are real sick and tired of the petty bullshit remarks and childish behaviour from a very small percentage of the members. :cool1:

[djom1cincy]

Thanks! :bigthumb I'm sure we can get you there. We just had an '04 Cobra on the dyno yesterday that made 711 RWHP. :eek:

What mods?

[Maximus]

Come on guys, I support Modular Depot, but you don't see me talking shit on Cincy Speed when he posts up a thread, show some etiquette and grow up.

I know who you are.:lol:

I do agree with your statement. Hell, I know most of the guys down at MD and have no problems with them...Well except that Matt Johnson guy! He owes me a beer!! :)

[mystichris@MD]

What mods?


Whipple, supporting mods and some juice! :cool2:

[2007ShelbyCobra]

I have always heard that the factory system on those cars is pretty good, but with that much power it must have been holding it back a lot.

[Dirtyd0g]

I know who you are.:lol:

I do agree with your statement. Hell, I know most of the guys down at MD and have no problems with them...Well except that Matt Johnson guy! He owes me a beer!! :)

so what you are saying is all these MD>cincy speed, cincy speed >MD My cock>your cock posts are really pointless?
I can see that....

[Maximus]

so what you are saying is all these MD>cincy speed, cincy speed >MD My cock>your cock posts are really pointless?
I can see that....

In my eyes, YES. :cheers:

[bangingears]

I believe it, last week my car picked up 80rwhp from a muffler

[Dirtyd0g]

I believe it, last week my car picked up 80rwhp from a muffler

That would explain your complete lack of torque making your car foot brake 1000 less than a stock car with an increased stall converter.
Alan

[Metcalf Racing]

How would it foot brake 1000rpms less than stock? If its doing that something is BROKE

[Metcalf Racing]

I thinks those numbers are impressive on the cobra. What kind of ET should that car turn out with that kind of power?

[cobraman302]

I thinks those numbers are impressive on the cobra. What kind of ET should that car turn out with that kind of power?

Roughly mid 10's @ 132-135mph. Car probably weighs in at about 4k lbs. with the driver.

[Dirtyd0g]

How would it foot brake 1000rpms less than stock? If its doing that something is BROKE

When torque falls out the stall will change dramatically. For example go unplug a vac line and see what happens. Driving down the road it will feel fine, foot brake will be terrible and so will idle.
Alan

[Metcalf Racing]

When torque falls out the stall will change dramatically. For example go unplug a vac line and see what happens. Driving down the road it will feel fine, foot brake will be terrible and so will idle.
Alanwhat? Your talking about torque and comparing it to loss of vacuum? If the brakes hold the car will still foot brake relatively the same

[Dirtyd0g]

what? Your talking about torque and comparing it to loss of vacuum? If the brakes hold the car will still foot brake relatively the same

It gives the same effect.
Alan

[Metcalf Racing]

No way. If it does that bad something is broke

[Dirtyd0g]

No way. If it does that bad something is broke

uhm, huh? You're going to have to explain what you are talking about.

[Metcalf Racing]

Your saying by adding hp and losing torque it will lose 1000rpms on the foot brake. No way

[bangingears]

That would explain your complete lack of torque making your car foot brake 1000 less than a stock car with an increased stall converter.
Alan

my PTC C4 converter works great, I was talking about my green fox car with a 302 in it. I knocked the muffler off when it was on the dyno and picked up close to 80 rwhp. These power adder cars seem to have some sensitive exhausts.

[Dirtyd0g]

Oh lol That one still puzzles me. Did you ever figure out if the stall I sent you with was going to be too much so that we can swap the billet cover on it or did you sell it?
Alan

[Sharad]

my PTC C4 converter works great, I was talking about my green fox car with a 302 in it. I knocked the muffler off when it was on the dyno and picked up close to 80 rwhp. These power adder cars seem to have some sensitive exhausts.

Was your green fox a turbo car?

[gbrown8439]

Well except that Matt Johnson guy! He owes me a beer!! :)

You should try working with him everyday. :lol:

[mystichris@MD]

I believe it, last week my car picked up 80rwhp from a muffler


That was crazy. Screw that Flowmaster. Did you ever figure out what you want to do for a muffler?