View Full Version : You have got to be F*!%ing kidding me!!
Markcore
10-25-2010, 05:04 PM
I have some parts for sale...
http://www.stangbangerz.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68815
Marauder, Dustin Broach, bought them. I gave him a KILLER deal for all of them. He paid via Paypal and all was good. I offered to deliver the parts since my wife was going to be very close to where he lives, and he would get the parts the very next day. Well if any of you have a wife, you know their plans typically changes on a whim. She didn't go so I called him and said I'll be down Monday. (He bought the parts Thursday night)
I get a PM from him basically telling me that he is put out for having to wait for the parts for so long. It's been 3 days at this point, and the parts will be delivered on Monday. So I told him that my wife didn't go and he'll have them Monday, and that he got a killer deal and if he wasn't happy with how the transaction was going that I would refund his money. So he said ok, refund my money. That was Sunday.
So today (Monday) I log in to Paypal to refund his money. He opened a dispute against me! :mad: Are you fucking kidding me??!!!!!
I have bought and sold a lot of things online and it's guys like Marauder, Dustin Broach that give it a bad name. You can ask ANYONE who I have dealt with, and I'm 100% they will vouch for my name. I'm on a lot of other boards, under the same name, and you can see my trader rating. I'll be damned if I'm going to have this guy come into my life and shit all over everything I have build.
Buyer/seller beware of Marauder, Dustin Broach!
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10-21 through 10-24
I'll do $550 for everything. Thats $75 off what I was asking and $140 savings from buying them new. Not including what the shipping would cost. :bigthumb
LMK as I have a guy on SVTP.com asking too. I'd rather hook up a local SBZ guy! :cool1:
Just to be sure, that shifter will work with the T-45 (I guess that's what the 98 gt's have) right? I was looking at the tri-ax but anything is better than this stock shitter, erm shifter...
Do you have the isolators for those springs?
And the important question, do you take paypal?
Yes the shifter is for a T-45, and I'm 99% sure thats what is in a 98 GT.
I don't have any isolators.
And I do take PayPal!
*.*@gmail.com
Ok, sounds like a deal. Money sent.
In case paypal doesnt show,
Ship to:
Dustin Broach
*******
Walton, KY 41094
Thanks man!
Awesome! I got it! I'd rather deliver it to you vs ship it if possible. Would you mind meeting up somewhere? Maybe the Newport Aquiarium? My wife is going there this weekend with my daughter, thought they may be faster.
let me know and thanks again!
Yeah, I'm flexible so if that's ok with you that works for me. That's not too far away from me at all. What day and time works best? My number is ***.***.**** can text or call on your way down. Could maybe meet at a location near the aquarium so we don't have to pay to park and all that mess. There's a couple restaurants right off 5th street in Covington we could meet up at that are on the way.
Ok sounds good. I'll give you a call once I see what day and time she's going.
Please ship the parts Monday, I was hoping to have them in this weekend to put them on. I agreed to this weekend hoping to get them put on today, but I can't keep waiting for someone to get down here to deliver them and it not happen. I waited around all weekend, not trying to be a pain but I'd like to get these in and put on as soon as possible. Send the tracking number once you get it.
Thanks,
Dustin
Hey man I was trying to do you a favor by delivering the parts. You would have gotten them the NEXT day that way. My wife didn't end up going, as she said she was. I'll bring them down Monday. If you can't meet me I'll bring them to your address. I gave you a fucking killer deal on these parts. If you're not happy with how this is going I'll gladly refund your money.
Just refund the money then, I'd rather not deal with profanity.
No problem. Thanks for wasting my time.
Likewise.
Markcore
10-25-2010, 05:10 PM
Last edited by Markcore; Today at 05:07 PM.. I took out the sensitive information, Address, and phone numbers.
Sloney50
10-25-2010, 05:13 PM
Oh Shit.....Too bad
marauder
10-25-2010, 05:22 PM
Still waiting on my money. Since you want to air out your laundry, please explain why you can't hold your end of the deal?
You didn't deliver the parts, you haven't refunded my money...and now you're giving out my phone # and address to people? You're quicky making this a legal matter...best thing you can do is refund my money and go on about your day.
Dispute was opened due to parts being relisted and money not being refunded. It's a matter of protecting my money, $550 isnt chump change.
Markcore
10-25-2010, 05:24 PM
I sent it this morning you FUCK! Look at your Paypal account.
Flaming87lx
10-25-2010, 06:07 PM
Markcore, you are well established and respected on here, you have nothing to worry about on this website. :bigthumb
cstreu1026
10-25-2010, 06:09 PM
No good deed goes unpunished.
marauder
10-25-2010, 06:13 PM
Maybe I deserve that comment. There may be a delay in paypal, but the email notification of this refund was just sent. Money has been returned as of about 5 minutes ago.
Without knowing you personally, the only thing I can go by is what you tell me. There really was no sense in going as far as giving my information out like you did, the vulgarity, etc... but all things considered you must see it from my end. I paid for the parts Thursday morning. They should've been in the mail Friday, but we made an agreement for them to be brought over the weekend which would've saved time and allowed me to get them put on as soon as possible. I had time set aside Sunday evening for the parts, changing all my plans expecting the parts this weekend. When they didn't arrive, I ask for them to be shipped because I do not have the time through the week to be running around chasing parts, and I don't like the idea of them being left on my porch, etc...there are a lot of kids in the neighborhood. Reading back, maybe I sounded like a prick when asking you to just ship them out...I apologize for that but I had 3 people waiting on me to put them on who had canceled plans so we could get it knocked out in a couple hours.
I've dealt with the "I'll bring it tomorrow" in the past before and it burned my ass financially... and at the point you got vulgar it was pretty much a repeat of that scenario. This can pretty much can be filed as a miscommunication between parties. My apologies, and I'm sure you're a great person to deal with in face to face transactions where money is exchanged for parts at the point of sale. The only thing I can suggest is be up front before you collect payment for items shipped that you'd rather deliver them in person.
Maybe you rate me negatively from this transaction, and I'm fine with that. If a seller can't hold their agreement they can expect the same from me and I operate knowing the same when I make agreements to sell and ship items as well. If I quote prices for things shipped, they're sitting in a box ready to hit the parcel in the morning (or same day if I can get it there before it closes). I'm not going to ask for more money to ship the parts then send them with a friend or family member that may be going down today...tomorrow...the next day... I think it is cool as hell you were willing to do that for me had you actually done it, and up to the point of the "I'm doing you a fucking favor" comment, to save $140 off retail I was ok with everything. Not sure how me paying for the parts to be shipped, then having to drive 30 minutes each way to pick them up (granted you drove them from up north) is doing me a favor. Just saying...
The paypal dispute is a matter of asset protection, nothing personal and since it is now resolved it does not have any impact on your seller reputation. I wouldn't defame you, not sure why you chose to do the same to me. I'm not sure how this could've went any better other than maybe you not having such a short fuse. Maybe we both just happened to hit the alignment of stars on our periods or whatever at the same damn time, and this was just a blowup for no good reason.
People can read this and form their own opinions on both parties.
k062693w
10-25-2010, 06:14 PM
Don't sweat people like him Mark !!! You are one of the most Stand Up guys I know !!!
I think he just sealed his own fate with anyone on here selling him anything ...
And if he paid Thursday Night, And you would have shipped them Friday it is VERY unlikely he would have even had them today ... Sounds like buyers remorse to me ...
What a TOOL !!!
evil8
10-25-2010, 07:45 PM
I think I see Maruaders side more clearly, and he has legit beef. If you make an arrangement, follow through. If you agree to return funds, don't post a snide remark in return. Don't expect to blast someone publically and not get blasted in return.
SN95N/A
10-25-2010, 08:07 PM
Let's see he was saving you money by delivering,he took money off of original cost,wow dude ur a real prick,people like u is why the world is a headache.
marauder
10-25-2010, 08:20 PM
Look guys, I would really not like to make this a me or him situation. Everything prior to the mix-up Mark was very professional. I can see why he is pissed to a point. Seeing that he has this many people back him was part of the reason I paid so quick and without hesitation...
It boils down to a misunderstanding, and hopefully this mess will be over and the people that bombed my number realize that I'm not a prick. I'm sure noone else would want their private information put on blast either. It is what it is. I wanted the parts for this coming weekend, but sped up my plans for this weekend expecting that to happen. When that didn't, I wanted the parts to be shipped and obviously looking back I was a bit blunt with the request. I am deeply regretful for the way I asked for the items to be shipped. I can order the same parts from AmericanMuscle and they'll be here in 2-3 business days FREE, so the reason for wanting my money back was to avoid the drama and gurantee I had parts in by this coming weekend so that I can get a few more good rides in before I put it up for hibernation. Normally I'm the most patient person in deals, hell I paid Jim $100 more to deliver his mustang to me when I bought it (a 35 minute drive) because I felt he had the price a bit low for the car's condition.
In the end, if there are no hard feelings, I'd gladly deal with Mark in the future if he can see my point in the issue. If not, I completely understand. At the end of the day I'm not trying to make him out to be a bad seller and I hope noone takes away from this that thought...
black90lx
10-25-2010, 11:19 PM
i have waited weeks for parts i have ordered from people. the point is... you wouldnt have got them by the weekend if he shipped them... it would take 2-3 buisness days atleast..
draggin50
10-26-2010, 12:07 AM
Mark is an awesome guy to deal with! I sold him a tool box and he wasnt even in this country at the time and it went smooth as hell! I know I dont know all the details and its not really any of my business but like whats been said, you would`nt have got them any sooner if they was shipped. He is a stand up guy and well know across the boards. Some of us who have sold many parts and such use positive feedback as a selling point. We dont want it scarred by some nonsense!
RIXXX93GT
10-26-2010, 12:16 AM
Sounds like a phone call or two would have made this a non issue......I can say for sure that any dealings I have had with Mark were top notch, and he has always went the extra mile for other members....always.
331TwistedWedge
10-26-2010, 12:26 AM
kennebellcobra did this to me once on a vibrator ... we ironed things out with 1 phone call ... hes a helluva guy ... :happybd: you little shit ... next vibrator is on me :lol:
kennebellcobra
10-26-2010, 12:31 AM
kennebellcobra did this to me once on a vibrator ... we ironed things out with 1 phone call ... hes a helluva guy ... :happybd: you little shit ... next vibrator is on me :lol:
You have issues Ricky! :lol::lol::lol::lol: That vibrator better not be used like the last one:mad:
331TwistedWedge
10-26-2010, 12:33 AM
just trying to bring a bit of humor to a bad situation :bigthumb
marauder
10-26-2010, 01:53 AM
Well, at the end of the day never once have I doubted his reputation.
Why offer a refund, then blow up when someone takes you up on it? I'm being made out to be a prick here, and really noone here is at fault. This is just a blowup that should've been handled via a phone call or through the avenue that I had opened via paypal dispute. Disputes in paypal are just a way for the buyer to communicate with the seller, at which point if the needs are not met, a claim can be opened and they will proceed with that. It's a way to protect yourself from fraud. I'm being cussed, harassed via phone thanks to my information being posted, etc...over what? Someone OFFERING to refund my money and I take them up on it? People make mistakes, we're all human...I can let an issue go I'd hope based on this reputation Mark could do the same.
We can piss back and fourth all day, and because I'm not as established with this site yet as Mark is I'm sure most people who don't know me yet would just assume I'm a prick that was out to do harm to Mark, and that is truly not the case. If you guys feel that way about me and do not wish to deal with me that is entirely your choice. Anyone reading this and would like to deal with me, expect me to hold you to your word, and expect me to keep mine. If that's a problem, then I'd rather not deal with you anyway. I dunno, place yourself in my shoes and say you're new to a site and don't know someone, you pay that kind of money, then get a runaround... I don't look at someone's reputation when buying or selling, I base it on communication and how they handle communication. At the end of the day, I'm sure most people would do the same.
mustang3091
10-26-2010, 06:03 AM
Well, at the end of the day never once have I doubted his reputation.
Why offer a refund, then blow up when someone takes you up on it? I'm being made out to be a prick here, and really noone here is at fault. This is just a blowup that should've been handled via a phone call or through the avenue that I had opened via paypal dispute. Disputes in paypal are just a way for the buyer to communicate with the seller, at which point if the needs are not met, a claim can be opened and they will proceed with that. It's a way to protect yourself from fraud. I'm being cussed, harassed via phone thanks to my information being posted, etc...over what? Someone OFFERING to refund my money and I take them up on it? People make mistakes, we're all human...I can let an issue go I'd hope based on this reputation Mark could do the same.
We can piss back and fourth all day, and because I'm not as established with this site yet as Mark is I'm sure most people who don't know me yet would just assume I'm a prick that was out to do harm to Mark, and that is truly not the case. If you guys feel that way about me and do not wish to deal with me that is entirely your choice. Anyone reading this and would like to deal with me, expect me to hold you to your word, and expect me to keep mine. If that's a problem, then I'd rather not deal with you anyway. I dunno, place yourself in my shoes and say you're new to a site and don't know someone, you pay that kind of money, then get a runaround... I don't look at someone's reputation when buying or selling, I base it on communication and how they handle communication. At the end of the day, I'm sure most people would do the same.
I stopped taking Paypal because of things like this and selling and shipping to much of a pain in the ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
foxbodyfan
10-26-2010, 08:07 AM
Sounds like someone has very little patience and then got an attitude about it.
denial
10-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Obviously some people can't read between the lines. I don't know Mark, but understand by most he is a really good guy. I don't know marauder at all as well, so I will be biased imo. When Mark started with the profanity, marauder took it as disrespect and didn't wish to continue doing business with him.
If someone had said that to me, I would have done the same. As far as a dispute goes, that was really quick to hit the button. Marauder should retract his paypal dispute and let them know the time frame between transactions. Let's all get along for the love of god. This is all we read on stangbangerz anymore. People always have something to whine about on here.
mustang8998
10-26-2010, 09:43 PM
Obviously some people can't read between the lines. I don't know Mark, but understand by most he is a really good guy. I don't know marauder at all as well, so I will be biased imo. When Mark started with the profanity, marauder took it as disrespect and didn't wish to continue doing business with him.
If someone had said that to me, I would have done the same. As far as a dispute goes, that was really quick to hit the button. Marauder should retract his paypal dispute and let them know the time frame between transactions. Let's all get along for the love of god. This is all we read on stangbangerz anymore. People always have something to whine about on here.
This!
SSgtHUTCH
10-27-2010, 05:41 PM
Just sounds like a little inpatients to me.
k062693w
10-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Just sounds like a little inpatients to me.
They my both need to be IN PATIENTS, But yes it sounds like a little IMPATIENCE to me also !!! LMFAO Sorry I just had to !!! :lol:
marauder
10-27-2010, 06:21 PM
Haha, good times. There are days I feel that way, that's for sure.
For what it's worth I sent an apology to Mark and I'm willing to do whatever to correct any issues with the paypal and make it right with him. I figure I owe him a beer or other cold beverage of his choice if he accepts my sincere apology.
Maximus
10-27-2010, 06:22 PM
Haha, good times. There are days I feel that way, that's for sure.
For what it's worth I sent an apology to Mark and I'm willing to do whatever to correct any issues with the paypal and make it right with him. I figure I owe him a beer or other cold beverage of his choice if he accepts my sincere apology.
Thats more than a lot of people would do. Kudos to you guy.:bigthumb
SSgtHUTCH
10-27-2010, 06:32 PM
They my both need to be IN PATIENTS, But yes it sounds like a little IMPATIENCE to me also !!! LMFAO Sorry I just had to !!! :lol:
Yeah, they MY both need to be, or they just MAY need to be !!! LMFAO Sorry I just had to !!! :lol:
k062693w
10-27-2010, 06:37 PM
Yeah, they MY both need to be, or they just MAY need to be !!! LMFAO Sorry I just had to !!! :lol:
LMFAO !!! Touché my friend Touché !!! :lol:
Markcore
10-27-2010, 09:45 PM
Haha, good times. There are days I feel that way, that's for sure.
For what it's worth I sent an apology to Mark and I'm willing to do whatever to correct any issues with the paypal and make it right with him. I figure I owe him a beer or other cold beverage of his choice if he accepts my sincere apology.
No sweat.
I was annoyed with your PM Sunday, but it wasn't a big deal. I wasn't cursing AT you, but more of an adjective. I curse a lot. When I offered you a refund I was serious about it. The fact that you said refund your money then, was fine with me. I was just kinda annoyed that I had already closed all of my for sale ads and had to go back on them.
The ONLY reason I called you out publicly is because you opened a claim against me on Paypal. I use Paypal A LOT and was pissed that you scarred my account the way you did.
I wish things would have gone differently but they didn't. Oh well life goes on. No hard feelings on my end.
Thanks for the kind words from those who know me and have dealt with me.
A good reputation is more valuable than money. ~Publilius Syrus
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