View Full Version : BOYCOTT GAS PRICES!!!!!!
mrstang-gt-46
04-11-2012, 08:12 PM
april 15,this sunday. no one is buying gas JOIN in!!!!!!
jktruckin06
04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
we all just going to fill up monday? lol. these are valiant efforts but one day will do nothing.
Roush GT
04-11-2012, 08:18 PM
if no one in the world fills up Sunday (it won't happen) gas companies would lose a ton of money.
CNTLOSE
04-11-2012, 08:20 PM
Prices seem to be dropping today.
mustang_gt88
04-11-2012, 08:20 PM
im down for it
mrstang-gt-46
04-11-2012, 08:30 PM
supposed to have been done over seas and they did loose a ton of money,supposedly dropped prices big time!!!!!
buckeye6669
04-11-2012, 08:32 PM
was told last year when the boycott happin gas dropped 30 or 40 cents.i posted it to facebook just to spred the word
SN95N/A
04-11-2012, 08:43 PM
I haul fuel and hauling a ton of it,prices go up and people still buy it,doesn't seem to slow down a bit.
mrstang-gt-46
04-11-2012, 08:45 PM
yea,and if we all set here with our fingers up our asses it will continue to skyrocket
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-11-2012, 08:48 PM
Guys...what they don't sell one day, what money they lose one day, they'll sell the next day and make up for the next day. Plus if they wanted to play hardball they'd just jack the price up the following day $.25 and really ass rape us and make more profit than they lost to begin with.
Now, if we all parked our cars for a solid week and rode bicycles everywhere, then you'd see some change but that's not realistic.
mf959100GT
04-11-2012, 09:13 PM
Guys...what they don't sell one day, what money they lose one day, they'll sell the next day and make up for the next day. Plus if they wanted to play hardball they'd just jack the price up the following day $.25 and really ass rape us and make more profit than they lost to begin with.
Now, if we all parked our cars for a solid week and rode bicycles everywhere, then you'd see some change but that's not realistic.
I agree...I need a car to get from Batavia to NKU everyday lol but I work at a gas station and the other day (well last week when it was $4/gallon here in Eastgate) a guy in a lifted durango complained about our gas prices then continued to fill up...we gotta have it complaining isn't doing any thing so I just suck it up and get it lol just my 2 cents tho
jktruckin06
04-11-2012, 09:19 PM
Well a true boycott would be for some extended period of time. But we are in a day and age when people live too far from work to even be able to ride a bike. We are truly a country dependent on oil. This will not change or get better until we are not dependent.
may93
04-11-2012, 10:39 PM
april 15,this sunday. no one is buying gas JOIN in!!!!!!
Share a ride or stay home that particular day. That’s gas money saved that they won’t recoup the following day. My wife’s car gets twice the gas mileage as my Explorer and I work out of town so we traded vehicles temporarily.It cut our gas expenses in half! Imagine if millions of others did the same …
:rolleyes: Lol...the same thing gets spread around every time prices spike.
mad max
04-11-2012, 11:34 PM
Guys...what they don't sell one day, what money they lose one day, they'll sell the next day and make up for the next day. Plus if they wanted to play hardball they'd just jack the price up the following day $.25 and really ass rape us and make more profit than they lost to begin with.
Now, if we all parked our cars for a solid week and rode bicycles everywhere, then you'd see some change but that's not realistic.
If we all did this , or didnt show up for work for a week cause you cant afford gas , the people in power would surely do something. I know thats not realistic but sometimes to get extreme results , you need extreme measures.
Markcore
04-11-2012, 11:52 PM
You truly want to send a message... don't buy gas for a month! Car pool, walk, stay home, ride your bike!!!
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-12-2012, 02:48 AM
You truly want to send a message... don't buy gas for a month! Car pool, walk, stay home, ride your bike!!!
Even if this was an idea spread out on the evening news, the majority of people would take on the attitude like "well, i CAN'T do it, but i'm sure most other people will so it'll be ok" and then hardly anyone would do it and it wouldn't make a difference.
2Fast4You
04-12-2012, 07:56 AM
I will not purchase gas on Sunday.
cstreu1026
04-12-2012, 08:43 AM
:rolleyes: Lol...the same thing gets spread around every time prices spike.
Exactly and it has ZERO effect on gas prices.
If you really want to make an impact make lasting changes to your life to use less fuel. Buy a smaller car, move closer to work, car pool with co-workers, ride a bike, etc. A day, a week, or a month will haev no lasting impact if you just go back to the same old ways.
Blackout
04-12-2012, 11:03 PM
What I never understanded was that gas prices go up and the fuel was put in the gas station tanks are the same gas that they had delivered three days earlier. Just don't make any sense.
Maximus
04-12-2012, 11:13 PM
What a lot of people dont understand is...The gas companies DONT GIVE A SHIT about any of us! Dont use their gas, guess what, they will ship it off our shores to countries around the globe and get $9-$12 or more for a gallon of it!!
The sooner you realize we are FUCKED when it comes to gas prices, the sooner you can start coping with it. and NO politican will change the fact! They ALL have the gas compaines fist up in their asses so deep, that nothing ever will change the fact. Well maybe a Green guy from Mars with a Flux capacitor that runs off Bullshit or garbage. Anywho, pay the price or ride a bike. :(
Buckeye
04-12-2012, 11:15 PM
I buy a 100 in gas every two days...
cstreu1026
04-13-2012, 07:05 AM
What a lot of people dont understand is...The gas companies DONT GIVE A SHIT about any of us! Dont use their gas, guess what, they will ship it off our shores to countries around the globe and get $9-$12 or more for a gallon of it!!
The sooner you realize we are FUCKED when it comes to gas prices, the sooner you can start coping with it. and NO politican will change the fact! They ALL have the gas compaines fist up in their asses so deep, that nothing ever will change the fact. Well maybe a Green guy from Mars with a Flux capacitor that runs off Bullshit or garbage. Anywho, pay the price or ride a bike. :(
They could be required to have to ask for congressional approval before raising prices but as slow as those lazy fuggers move they would end up like the postal service....bankrupt.
dedpedal
04-13-2012, 07:36 AM
I see it as corporate greed. Prices go up in large amounts and drop ever so slowly.
zippy94
04-13-2012, 10:34 AM
i bought gas in Indiana last night for $3.53 a gallon for 87octane, Why is KY $3.89? i think people get tired of price jumps and can't budget for it,
akagreg3
04-13-2012, 11:23 AM
april 15,this sunday. no one is buying gas JOIN in!!!!!!
i my self am a law abiding citizen, with that said, gas parice are always gonna go up till obama out of office "hes been on green energy from the beginning " i think a month of ppl doing pull offs lol would fix the problem just find^^ damn greedy batchs yea yea still gas lose your license :( think it would be hard to take everyone license or even catch everyone in the tri state or even america,, wishful think tho but i am definitely down for sunday the 15:bigthumb
Camaro86SHOCKER
04-13-2012, 11:58 PM
Perhaps it's just because I graduated middle school, but words cannot even describe how stupid this don't buy gas for a day concept is. If you actually think that's going to work, or that you have "tricked the system" I have some ocean front property in Indiana I'd like to sell you.
:dummy:
dedpedal
04-14-2012, 07:24 AM
The news today states that gas prices are going to come way down. Whos going to take credit for this miracle? The current administration is my bet. Yea the one who states that they have no way to stop the rising oil prices...
04 Venom
04-14-2012, 11:34 AM
Perhaps it's just because I graduated middle school, but words cannot even describe how stupid this don't buy gas for a day concept is. If you actually think that's going to work, or that you have "tricked the system" I have some ocean front property in Indiana I'd like to sell you.
:dummy:
More people need to go to the same middle school as you did. The idea is stupid beyond belief.
redfirepearlgt
04-14-2012, 12:57 PM
The news today states that gas prices are going to come way down. Whos going to take credit for this miracle? The current administration is my bet. Yea the one who states that they have no way to stop the rising oil prices...
Well you know darn well the the Chevy Volt, solar energy (solyndra specifically), wind energy, the efforts of Steven Chu (Dept of Energy Sec.), and the "bipartisan" support our beloved president has given for the Keystone pipeline (some, though not all of it) has had dramatic impact on current and near future prices.
:barf:
djom1cincy
04-14-2012, 01:19 PM
I guess I won't have a line to wait in when I go fill up tomorrow. Thanks for making it easy for me. Monday will be crazy at the pumps for sure.
redfirepearlgt
04-14-2012, 01:23 PM
I guess I won't have a line to wait in when I go fill up tomorrow. Thanks for making it easy for me. Monday will be crazy at the pumps for sure.
Very nice point.
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-14-2012, 04:07 PM
Here's a perfect example of why this won't work.
I won't be buying gas tomorrow...know why? Because i just filled up on Friday anyways and i don't need to. See? They get their money one way or another. It's not like everybody gets gas every single day.
How do you guys think retailers can keep from going under when they close for a holiday and don't do any sales for an entire day? Think about that...if Walmart closes EVERY store in their entire franchise for Christmas, they lose way more sales for that one day than gas companies are going to lose since you know not everybody is going to do this gas boycott thing. Why doesn't Walmart go bankrupt when they're closed for an entire day doing no business? The oil companies have way more money than Walmart so it's not because they have money to spare...it's because people know about the closed day in advance just like they know about this gas boycott, and so they'll just buy their gas the day before or the day after and that makes up for the loss in sales on Sunday.
Like i said before, everyone would have to do this for a solid week straight for it to make any difference at all.
cstreu1026
04-14-2012, 04:36 PM
Something else to consider is that a lot of the newest developments in oil production in North American are only economically feasible because of the high prices so I wouldn't count on ever going back to $2 gas because of tar sands, deep water drilling, etc.
04 Venom
04-15-2012, 12:12 AM
Well you know darn well the the Chevy Volt, solar energy (solyndra specifically), wind energy, the efforts of Steven Chu (Dept of Energy Sec.), and the "bipartisan" support our beloved president has given for the Keystone pipeline (some, though not all of it) has had dramatic impact on current and near future prices.
:barf:
If that makes you feel better, believe it. We will have high energy prices regardless who is in the White House. What would bring a dramatic drop in prices is another economic meltdown circa 2008. No thank you.
Goober
04-15-2012, 12:24 AM
Oil companies net a 7 cent profit per gallon, yet the government makes 42 cents per gallon... who's the thieves here???
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 12:33 AM
The only way I see people really making a difference or making the gas company's think about dropping prices somewhat is either people need to stop using it as much as mentioned above and start riding bikes,walkig,public transit or whatever,Or which i personally think would be a better but risky idea is to have a national drive off day where people go and fill up nationwide and drive off The police cant arrest every person in a city/county that drive off.If people did it one day a month it would hurt them alot more to lose a product without making any profit on it.If no one buys gas sunday that means most bought it saturday or will monday they sell the same amount of gas just another day.Im not sure how stuff works between the privately owned gas stations and the gas companies but the whole drive off thing might hurt the person that owns the gas station more then anyone.But if those owners of the gas stations gets pissed that hes losing money maybe they would have some power over the gas companies. who knows we are more then likley fucked..btw gas prices will drop like they always do this time of year until the presidential election is over then it will raise back up.
04 Venom
04-15-2012, 12:38 AM
Oil companies net a 7 cent profit per gallon, yet the government makes 42 cents per gallon... who's the thieves here???
Not in Ohio. Fed tax is 18.4 and state tax is 28.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 12:39 AM
Oil companies net a 7 cent profit per gallon, yet the government makes 42 cents per gallon... who's the thieves here???
not saying your wrong i don know but how do oil companies make 150%+ profits only making 7 cents a gallon. Im sure the government makes quite a bit per gallon like you said but id say the oil companies make more then 7 cents a gallon.Seems impossible for them to make billions in profits a year only making 7 cents a gallon. like i said no saying your wrong just doesnt make sense to me.
Goober
04-15-2012, 12:41 AM
The only way I see people really making a difference or making the gas company's think about dropping prices somewhat is either people need to stop using it as much as mentioned above and start riding bikes,walkig,public transit or whatever,Or which i personally think would be a better but risky idea is to have a national drive off day where people go and fill up nationwide and drive off The police cant arrest every person in a city/county that drive off.If people did it one day a month it would hurt them alot more to lose a product without making any profit on it.If no one buys gas sunday that means most bought it saturday or will monday they sell the same amount of gas just another day.Im not sure how stuff works between the privately owned gas stations and the gas companies but the whole drive off thing might hurt the person that owns the gas station more then anyone.But if those owners of the gas stations gets pissed that hes losing money maybe they would have some power over the gas companies. who knows we are more then likley fucked..btw gas prices will drop like they always do this time of year until the presidential election is over then it will raise back up.
So you're promoting gas theft as a way to lower prices? That's like wiping before you poop in order to prevent skidmarks.
SN95N/A
04-15-2012, 12:45 AM
7 cents a gallon adds up quick if ur like tepco/enterprise in lebanon that go's thru a million gallons a day.bp stations/gas stations don't make a lot per tank load of fuel tho.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 12:46 AM
So you're promoting gas theft as a way to lower prices? That's like wiping before you poop in order to prevent skidmarks.
wouldnt say thats a good comparison:lol:
But what else is there we can do..not everyone can ride bikes,carpool,walk to work,school,the stores or whatever so thats out of question. buying gas on monday or wednesday instead of tuesday doesnt help either.What else can we do? i feel u im not one to steal stuff at all ive always worked/paid for my own shit but when we have no power over gas companies fucking us and our own government allows it where we cant do anything legally to change the gas prices what are we to do?If shit was how it should be our government wouldnt allow this stuff to happen but they are more concerned with taking bribes from oil companies then helping the people they are ellected to represent.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 12:49 AM
7 cents a gallon adds up quick if ur like tepco/enterprise in lebanon that go's thru a million gallons a day.bp stations/gas stations don't make a lot per tank load of fuel tho.
yeah im sure the small buisness owners that supply gas to us dont make nearly as much as the people that supply it to them and i wouldnt want to cause them to go broke because of something they cant really control but if we got the private gas station owners pissed off at the oil companies and they united and decided to boycott the oil companies maybe it would help..idk im just saying that i cant really personally think of anything realistic and legal we could do to help stuff.
04 Venom
04-15-2012, 12:57 AM
Oil companies net a 7 cent profit per gallon, yet the government makes 42 cents per gallon... who's the thieves here???
So the oil companies make no profit from pumping oil out of the Gulf of Mexico and make no profit from the refinery process? Better revise your figures upward---way upward.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 01:12 AM
So the oil companies make no profit from pumping oil out of the Gulf of Mexico and make no profit from the refinery process? Better revise your figures upward---way upward.
i looked it up he might actually be right check the links just random reports from different sites.I read another article while i was typing this.I guess what he said is right but wrong.The oil companies make 2-7 cents per gallon of gas sold no matter what depending on state taxes and a bunch of other factors,but they make the oil at 12-15$ a barrel and sell for atleast 100$ so they really make more then 2-7 cents a gallon
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15382/chart-shows-exxon-profits-per-gallon-of-gas-vs-taxes-collected-per-gallon/
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/gasoline-tax-profits/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110528212604AA1zyac
BIGRED Z
04-15-2012, 06:57 AM
Wow, aside from maybe a handful of you in this thread, has no one ever bothered to take an economics class??
And as much as I'll be the first to point fingers at all the shit Obama has fuckered up, he really cannot control your gas prices.
We are sitting on resources where we can get our own oil, but somehow PETA thinks the barn owl is more important to our survival than becoming less dependent on foreign oil.
Even better, look into nuclear energy as a viable option. They've made great strides in nuclear technology and producing less waste.
cstreu1026
04-15-2012, 08:09 AM
No the Obama administration is not 100% to blame for the problem but they do share in it. Policies of the Fed like QE 1&2 that intentionally cause inflation do have impact on the price of oil and anything else that is traded on the world market in US Dollars. That is unless you believe the bullshit consumer price index that gets manipulated to meet the needs of politicians. You only need to look as far as your local grocery store to realize the 2-3% inflation the Fed claims isn't eve close.
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-15-2012, 11:04 AM
So you're promoting gas theft as a way to lower prices? That's like wiping before you poop in order to prevent skidmarks.
Best post all year :lol:
02mingryGT
04-15-2012, 11:57 AM
Wow, aside from maybe a handful of you in this thread, has no one ever bothered to take an economics class??
And as much as I'll be the first to point fingers at all the shit Obama has fuckered up, he really cannot control your gas prices.
We are sitting on resources where we can get our own oil, but somehow PETA thinks the barn owl is more important to our survival than becoming less dependent on foreign oil.
Even better, look into nuclear energy as a viable option. They've made great strides in nuclear technology and producing less waste.
What she said. I do disagree about the government not being able to do anything about oil/gas prices though. The easiest way to effect the price of gas/oil is to eliminate some of the regulatory cost. The next thing is to charge an export tax on any oil/gas produced/refined in this country but then shipped outside of it's borders. The government can then use this money to eliminate federal taxes on the gas or pay down the debt. Understand there is a cost/benefit ratio to everything a business does. So if you make it more costly to do business overseas then they will stop shipping it there (NAFTA Treaty is the exact opposite of this theory). What will then happen is a glut on the domestic market and (poof) supply and demand takes over. There may be some negatives associated(possible job losses) with this but prices will go down and it will be because of the government.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 01:11 PM
So we should just sit back pay $4 a gallon and wait until the government decides to do something? im sure that will work.It doesnt have anything to do with obama,democrats,republicans they all care about the same thing and thats putting money in they're pocket before anything else.The only difference is democrats lie to minorities to get elected and Republicans lie to the middle and upper class white people to get elected.
djom1cincy
04-15-2012, 04:28 PM
I guess people failed to get the email about the boycott. All the pumps were full when I got to SAMs store gas station. On a good note I saved 20 cents a gallon at SAMs today. Looks like that membership will pay for its self in fuel saving.
greedygenius
04-15-2012, 07:05 PM
I guess people failed to get the email about the boycott. All the pumps were full when I got to SAMs store gas station. On a good note I saved 20 cents a gallon at SAMs today. Looks like that membership will pay for its self in fuel saving.
yeah everywhere i went had just as many people getting gas as any other day
02mingryGT
04-16-2012, 10:45 AM
So we should just sit back pay $4 a gallon and wait until the government decides to do something? im sure that will work.It doesnt have anything to do with obama,democrats,republicans they all care about the same thing and thats putting money in they're pocket before anything else.The only difference is democrats lie to minorities to get elected and Republicans lie to the middle and upper class white people to get elected.
Wasn't saying that just saying that they could do something if they wanted to but your right they don't because of the politics involved whether it is the left(treehuggers, new big green business) or the right(big(oil) business).
The boycott is a waste of time and makes no sense. I have posted one such link explaining that but there are numerous examples on the net if you google it. Doing something just for the sake of doing it doesn't make much sense either.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-16-2012, 01:27 PM
So we should just sit back pay $4 a gallon and wait until the government decides to do something? im sure that will work.It doesnt have anything to do with obama,democrats,republicans they all care about the same thing and thats putting money in they're pocket before anything else.The only difference is democrats lie to minorities to get elected and Republicans lie to the middle and upper class white people to get elected.
It doesn't make a difference who you vote for, that's irrelevant. The only way to get the price down is to stop buying it, and it'll take more than a day for that to make any difference.
The fact is, the demand is never going away and so the price will continue to go up until enough people are pissed off enough to do more than complain, or until a viable alternative comes and everybody embraces it.
In other words, something will be done when there's no other choice left, and for the time being everyone seems content to bitch and complain and bend over and continue taking it in the ass. Until we ALL unite and do something major, nothing will change.
mrstang-gt-46
04-16-2012, 01:42 PM
who the hell would be doing it for the fuing sake of it that is about as stupid as that statement
BIGRED Z
04-16-2012, 02:19 PM
What she said. I do disagree about the government not being able to do anything about oil/gas prices though. The easiest way to effect the price of gas/oil is to eliminate some of the regulatory cost. The next thing is to charge an export tax on any oil/gas produced/refined in this country but then shipped outside of it's borders. The government can then use this money to eliminate federal taxes on the gas or pay down the debt. Understand there is a cost/benefit ratio to everything a business does. So if you make it more costly to do business overseas then they will stop shipping it there (NAFTA Treaty is the exact opposite of this theory). What will then happen is a glut on the domestic market and (poof) supply and demand takes over. There may be some negatives associated(possible job losses) with this but prices will go down and it will be because of the government.
Good points, but I figure the government will tax the crap out of anything and everything they can anyway!!
greedygenius
04-16-2012, 02:52 PM
It doesn't make a difference who you vote for, that's irrelevant. The only way to get the price down is to stop buying it, and it'll take more than a day for that to make any difference.
The fact is, the demand is never going away and so the price will continue to go up until enough people are pissed off enough to do more than complain, or until a viable alternative comes and everybody embraces it.
In other words, something will be done when there's no other choice left, and for the time being everyone seems content to bitch and complain and bend over and continue taking it in the ass. Until we ALL unite and do something major, nothing will change.
yupp thats the problem everyone wants to sit and talk about why prices are so high,argue about whose fault it is but do nothing about it.Demand will not go down until another source of energy is found like you said, and as long as the govrnment and oil companies are making all this money off gas they wont try to find another source of energy.The only legal thing we could do is stop using gas which is nearly impossible.
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-16-2012, 05:53 PM
Right, and just like a few years ago when GM had a production electric car ready to come out, the company who does it next will get bought out before the powers that be allow it to come out. The only reason you see hybrids is because they still need gas to run. Realistically all we need is a full electric with a 100 mile radius and plenty of places to plug into. That'll get most all people to work and they can plug up while they're at work so they have juice to get home.
But...it's a catch 22 because if an auto maker comes out with a successful full electric car and there was a major electric car revolution, they'd actually be working against themselves in sales against all their other gas cars. They would have to instantly have nothing but electric vehicles or suffer major losses in sales for all their other vehicles. It won't happen though because oil companies can just toss a billion dollars at them and pretend it never happened.
jktruckin06
04-16-2012, 06:57 PM
on the topic of electric cars and using less gas, has anyone ever built and/or used the home made hydrogen things? they seemed pretty convincing in all the videos and tutorials...
greedygenius
04-16-2012, 08:24 PM
Right, and just like a few years ago when GM had a production electric car ready to come out, the company who does it next will get bought out before the powers that be allow it to come out. The only reason you see hybrids is because they still need gas to run. Realistically all we need is a full electric with a 100 mile radius and plenty of places to plug into. That'll get most all people to work and they can plug up while they're at work so they have juice to get home.
But...it's a catch 22 because if an auto maker comes out with a successful full electric car and there was a major electric car revolution, they'd actually be working against themselves in sales against all their other gas cars. They would have to instantly have nothing but electric vehicles or suffer major losses in sales for all their other vehicles. It won't happen though because oil companies can just toss a billion dollars at them and pretend it never happened.
the electric car thing would do exactly what you said the only win/win for us and the car company's would be an alternative fuel that can be ran thru the same type of engines we have now.
85_SS_302_Coupe
04-16-2012, 08:27 PM
the electric car thing would do exactly what you said the only win/win for us and the car company's would be an alternative fuel that can be ran thru the same type of engines we have now.
Mr. Fusion?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/files/2008/04/mr-fusion.jpg
:D
But really...i have no doubt this has been looked into. Aside from going diesel/biofuel, i don't know what you'd do.
greedygenius
04-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Mr. Fusion?
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/files/2008/04/mr-fusion.jpg
:D
But really...i have no doubt this has been looked into. Aside from going diesel/biofuel, i don't know what you'd do.
yupp shit stinks and isnt very good for performance right? we just need to do something to lower gas prices, national drive off day lol
redfirepearlgt
04-17-2012, 12:09 AM
If electric powered cars became the way of the future then the loons would redirect their efforts and cry foul because the power plants would be over burdened to keep up which would mean more power plants and more fossil fuel/NG burning (since we can't go nuclear - oh my) that would equate to more pollution and more draw on fossil fuels (this time in the form of coal) and that would mean they would begin attacking the coal industry which would be come the new power over oil...blah, blah, blah... and the wheel goes 'round.
Just another angle for some loon to play to get a federal grant (because they can't go to college any longer on the govt) that will draw the attention of exploitive type politicians like Al Gore or Nancy Baby Pelosi taht will make millions on it as they develop a religion around the idea that exemplts them from the rules they preach to all others to follow. I'm done preachin' now. Have agreat week. OH BTW, here's a news flash ----
We're not running the show...He is.
02mingryGT
04-17-2012, 09:47 AM
who the hell would be doing it for the fuing sake of it that is about as stupid as that statement
You'd be doing it for the sake of thinking you would have an "impact" or "make a difference". That's what I meant doing for the sake of saying you "tried" when in reality you didn't do squat. Nor will you ever unless you have a patent for a new energy source. Look you want to do it, go for it. IMO it's not worth the effort.
02mingryGT
04-17-2012, 10:05 AM
Right, and just like a few years ago when GM had a production electric car ready to come out, the company who does it next will get bought out before the powers that be allow it to come out. The only reason you see hybrids is because they still need gas to run. Realistically all we need is a full electric with a 100 mile radius and plenty of places to plug into. That'll get most all people to work and they can plug up while they're at work so they have juice to get home.
But...it's a catch 22 because if an auto maker comes out with a successful full electric car and there was a major electric car revolution, they'd actually be working against themselves in sales against all their other gas cars. They would have to instantly have nothing but electric vehicles or suffer major losses in sales for all their other vehicles. It won't happen though because oil companies can just toss a billion dollars at them and pretend it never happened.
Electric cars are a joke, both the hybrid and full electrics. Read an article the other day about different hybrids and how long it would take to recoup your investment(price over a normal version vs the hybrid in gas). The Volt was like 26 years:
http://y98.radio.com/2012/04/06/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-hybrid-to-pay-for-itself/
This is why you will never see an electric car go mainstream. The second glaring problem no one talks about is how the electric is generated to charge these cars? Over half by coal which is under attack for not being environmentally correct. An off-shoot of that problem is, would the electrical grid have the capacity to produce enough electric to charge everyone's car? Today it does not and will not as long as the regutory process is the way it is today. It takes years and sometimes decades to build any nuclear plant, coal plant or refinery. You have rolling blackouts in cities today in the summer as it is. Having a million cars plugged in, say New York, would be a catastrophic drain on the grid. So by the time we could improve the capacity of the grid another source would probably be available. Electric is just a green energy "business". It is no different than big oil.
I am personally holding out hope for hydrogen. But even that would have it's drawbacks.
02mingryGT
04-17-2012, 10:07 AM
If electric powered cars became the way of the future then the loons would redirect their efforts and cry foul because the power plants would be over burdened to keep up which would mean more power plants and more fossil fuel/NG burning (since we can't go nuclear - oh my) that would equate to more pollution and more draw on fossil fuels (this time in the form of coal) and that would mean they would begin attacking the coal industry which would be come the new power over oil...blah, blah, blah... and the wheel goes 'round.
Just another angle for some loon to play to get a federal grant (because they can't go to college any longer on the govt) that will draw the attention of exploitive type politicians like Al Gore or Nancy Baby Pelosi taht will make millions on it as they develop a religion around the idea that exemplts them from the rules they preach to all others to follow. I'm done preachin' now. Have agreat week. OH BTW, here's a news flash ----
We're not running the show...He is.
Saw this after I posted but EXACTLY :bigthumb
mrstang-gt-46
04-17-2012, 10:08 AM
your right never made a bit of dam diff. all kind of people getting gas sunday at 3.58 per/gal,guess well all keep gettn it up the ass if we dont do somthing!!!!!!!
IWRBB
04-19-2012, 12:06 AM
What I never understanded was that gas prices go up and the fuel was put in the gas station tanks are the same gas that they had delivered three days earlier. Just don't make any sense.
Most stations just go by the local average price, then up or down a little depending on location/demand. If prices go up, some independent guys will hold their price low based on the price they paid for the fuel in the tank though.. Gasbuddy is good for finding those oddball guys that are .35 cheap two days after everyone else.
Most stations just go by the average though, and sometimes lose a little, sometimes make a little more. It averages out with how much fuel they go through. That all begs the question.. who "sets the average"? The big guy in the market. Around here, that's Speedway for the most part.
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