Differences between Romeo and Windsor?

[chris91]

Okay Im getting ready to purchase a set of heads for my 99 and have found quite a few good deals on heads but needed to know if I could use Romeo heads on my Windsor shortblock. If so, are there any special parts I need to make them work or are they a direct bolt on and go?

[Evolved]

I don't know what all is different but I know one if not both valve covers have a different amount of bolts. Sorry I can't help with any more but I did a google search a few months back and found a list of everything different on the Rangerstation.com.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=difference%20between%20romeo%20and%20windsor&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CGoQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.therangerstation.com%2FMagazi ne%2FSummer2010%2FFord_4-6.htm&ei=z8uVT9zLBO7k6QHWpdTJCA&usg=AFQjCNH1ItcHBXEqFCI0LKdyjlFth48BEg

[Blackout]

OK,

Windsor engines are the same as Romeo except for the crank and valve cover bolts. Romeo has 6 bolt flywheel and Windsor has a 8 bolt. Romeo also have a 11 bolts on both valve covers and Winsors have 13 on one side and 14 on the other. Other than that they are pretty much identical.

You need a set of Romeo valve covers and your good to go.

[chris91]

Thanks!! So the timing covers are the same too? Ive read a couple things saying they are different but will work. The guy selling me the heads is including the valve covers so I guess Im good to go.

[2-8-1]

Timing covers are different by year from 1998-2001, but as long as you have the one for your engine it will work. They are independent of the heads and only differ in pulley placement.

The only parts you will need to go from a Windsor to a Romeo head are the valve covers.

[cstreu1026]

The cams on windsor engines have pressed on gears but romeo engines have bolt on cam gears.

[2-8-1]

The cams on windsor engines have pressed on gears but romeo engines have bolt on cam gears.

Yes, and Windsors have beefier rods than Romeos, but it's inconsequential to a head swap. You can't use a Romeo Cam with a Windsor gear, but you can use a Romeo Cam and Gear in a Windsor head. The cam "mounting" is the same.

The only parts he should need are the cam cover and the heads. The engine cover should work as well as the only differences that I remember were on the block part and not the heads.

[HawksWR37]

stock windsor heads have less threads on the spark plug which leads to increased chances of plug blow out.

[chris91]

stock windsor heads have less threads on the spark plug which leads to increased chances of plug blow out.

Good thing Im going with Romeo heads then. :D Thanks for the info guys. I greatly appreciate it! Im picking up a set of Fox Lake Stage 2 Heads and Hitech Stage 2 Cams. Guy is including a bunch of parts with them too. Hope to have them in the next week or two and hope to have it together and ready to go for the Cruise in next month. Just picked me up a set of 18" FR500's for it too!! :bigthumb

[cstreu1026]

Be sure to check PTV clearance with those cams. A lot of folks have bent valves with them. If the heads have aftermarket valves you might have more room to work with but it won't be much.

[chris91]

Guy with them now has them on a stock shortblock with no problems but I planned on it anyway. Never can be too careful.

[Stangman]

18" FR500's........... I hate you :lol:

[chris91]

Just for you Jesse. :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/blown94ls/FR.jpg

[Stangman]

Yep........ definitely want some........

[cstreu1026]

The wheels look great.

[mad max]

Wheels look awesome .

[chris91]

Well I put the deposit on the head's and cams so hopefully shell run as good as she looks soon. Hoping to get it done for the cruise in. Wife has neck surgery on the 16th though so I may not be able to go depending on how things go.

[Blackout]

Let me know if you need any specs. "torque, torque patterns and timing setups"

Good Luck!

[chris91]

Hey thanks man! I may just be picking up the entire Longblock if I can find a way to go get it in Ontario, OH. Might just end up renting a truck if it comes down to it.

[Blackout]

If the heads are still mounted and there is nothing wrong with the engine, then that is the way to go. Congrats on a good find. Damn man... Ontario Ohio is a haul! Hope your getting a good deal on it. Like I said before, good luck, let me know if your need anything.

[chris91]

Its all put together ready to rock. Guy is just parting out the car since it wont sell. Its about 2.5 hours from me. Picking it all up plus the Sniper Tuning software for 2k. After pricing everything out individually it definitely seems worth it. Thanks again for the luck! lol Figure this setup should be a nice start to something fun.

[chris91]

Hmm next question. What years are 6 bolt crank and what years are 8 bolt? Need to figure out if my flywheel and clutch will work with what I have.

[redrocker]

not trying to jack thread but ive got a question to . is there a yr where ford used the same heads on them all?

[chris91]

No problem. Dont think there are. Im trying to find out if my stock 8 bolt flywheel and Spec Stage 2 Clutch are going to have to find new homes. lol would be nice if theyd work but Im not holding my breather.

[Blackout]

From what I have seen and read all mustangs from 96-98 and mid-01-04 are all Romeo cadtings. 99- mid-01 are Windsor.

Your clutch will work fine, but if the engine your buying doesn't come with a flywheel on it, then you will need a six bolt.

[chris91]

Welp Im picking up his FRPP Billet Flywheel and Centerforce DF Clutch as well. Anyone need a 8 bolt flywheel and Spec Stage 1 Clutch? Thought it was a Stage 2 until I just checked the receipt. lol

Arent the 8 bolt flywheels a 10.5" Clutch and the 6 bolt is a 11"? Or vice versa? If I can get away with using my clutch then itll save me a few dollars instead of buying his. Maybe I should just keep his clutch and flywheel together though. Its already nickel and dimin me. lol

[blown96cobra]

Hey thanks man! I may just be picking up the entire Longblock if I can find a way to go get it in Ontario, OH. Might just end up renting a truck if it comes down to it.

I used to live up by there its a friggin haul man.

[chris91]

Three hours and five minutes from my house to his. Not too bad. Drove further to get the car.