T-Shirts

[Gene]

I think I'm going to pass on a shirt as well. I have no desire to support the shell of what this place has become.

[mustangjon]

Well my shirt requests will be going to my new project's shirts which will be coming soon ....

[k062693w]

Forget my 4 shirts also ...

I'm thinking HE got beat by a Mustang !!!

[mustang_gt88]

Well my shirt requests will be going to my new project's shirts which will be coming soon ....

I would be interested in 1 or 2 of your shirts, if something should happen to the site how would we get ahold of you.

[mustangjon]

the Facebook page in my signature is our only home as of now or you can email me @ ubigjonk@yahoo.com

[Bman]

Not that one shirt matters but count me out.

[evil8]

Any interest in Honest Shaun International shirts?

[bbfstanger]

Any interest in Honest Shaun International shirts?

i thought they were already sold?

[blown96cobra]

Any interest in Honest Shaun International shirts?

I'm definitely in for 22$ worth lol.

[COOP]

Any interest in Honest Shaun International shirts?

Do you accept Western Union?

[jlt2006]

You can return my shirt to the shelf without the 15% restocking fee.

[Jrcmutang]

until further info please withdraw my shirt

[evil8]

Bad news on the Honest Shaun International shirts... I didn't get prior approval and all orders are on hold.

[Whyucryn]

Approval is granted!!

[Stangman]

I don't need 2 more shirts of the same design. I'll pass, Thanks.

[Gongshow]

I think I'll save my money and buy a Florence speedway shirt. The roundy rounds never let me down.

[2Fast4You]

Take me off the shirt list as well. This is no different than any small or big business where the upper management/ owner has nothing to do with the daily operations of it's business because their to busy doing other shit. But guess what, they always want to get in the middle of shit because they didn't make the decision to take the actions needed to promote or to be able to take the credit for a positive or beneficial move that they are not going to be recognized for, it's all about the glory. No respect for those of this site that want to keep this going for the love of fellow enthusiastic Mustang lovers or just racers all together. I was really looking forward to getting a shirt that I have longed for because of all the great individuals on here that I have come to respect. Think about this, what has this site really done for any member here? I could be mistaking and looking at this in the incorrect manner but I see the members taking charge for the love of what it brings to them, other enthusiast that love this local sport. Let this be an awakening of what we the members do for this site, We The People. Not what the site does for us. Don't get me wrong, Yes I'm very disturbed about how this has ended up but the site does bring a group of individuals that share the same passion together.

[Gongshow]

I see lots off us are on ESC signed up yesterday

[draggin50]

I dont want any damn shirts either...

[Yellow98Cobra]

I dont want any damn shirts either...

I am with this guy

[k062693w]

Looks like they might as well forget doing shirts now ... SAD ...

[Gstang117]

Pass on my shirt..

[dntryitzgurl]

2xl and a l

[k062693w]

^^^ WOW REALLY ??? ^^^

[chris91]

As much as I hate to say it, cancel my order as well......

I'll spend my money on a national website that treats its members better than this local site. How sad......

[cobrajoe]

How's that saying go?

Short term gain....
Long term loss....:(

[Whyucryn]

Wait... What happened here? Can someone send me a sbz tent to wear to the cruise in....

[NO SHOT]

Wait... What happened here? Can someone send me a sbz tent to wear to the cruise in....

lol..:nono:

[k062693w]

PM Received and Returned !!!

[DNTRYIT]

2xl and a l

You can cancel this order for shirts

[DNTRYIT]

^^^ WOW REALLY ??? ^^^

That was posted before everything was read!

[bbfstanger]

pm's aint going thru?

[k062693w]

^^^ Try again Wednesday !!! ^^^

[DSSKing68]

I guess I will pass on the shirts as well, until things get ironed out. It seems there are a lot of unhappy people here. It is sad to see what this place is becoming.

[Blkcobra01]

Cancel my shirt as well.

[facemelter71]

Yup,no shirt here either. Dont need to support a sight that cant even support itself.

[cobraman302]

I cancel my order of no shirts that I never placed to begin with. What a joke guys. I dont blame him at this point. Go for approval to spread the Stangbangerz name? Get approval to make and sell shirts to people that have been asking for these for years now? Get approval to maybe even hand over any profits to the site? I stand by my comments from the other threads, this site will go nowhere but in the toilet with Holly. She doesn't treat it how it should be treated, it's a business to her, it's numbers to her, and she wants full control over it at the end of the day. She's not doing what should be done.

Not that a single person cares here, but that was my last post here. 10 years later, I have become sick of the place and how it is ran. I sold my Cobra to step into a bigger house a year ago, and wanted to get into another one this year and really wanted to hang out with everyone again once I got more time... I like the people here for the most part, but this is a joke. I am supporting Holly at this point, not the SBZ community. And that is not what I want to happen. Time to find another local site.

[sean]

Mustangjon Has Started A New One. There Are A Few Of Us Over There. Pm him.

[Goober]

Can I have mine printed on a tarp? I want to make sure it'll be big enough for my fat ass.

[Holly]

Shirt update for those that still want them:

Current plans are to have the throw back design shirts as was previously suggested - ten commandments on the back, skull with checkers on the front.

I am getting pricing to make this move forward (with Holly's approval)

Once a price is determined you will have a couple of weeks to get your order in thru PayPal. Once the orders are in, the shirts will be printed - you snooze, you lose. (and if you don't have PayPal. find someone that does and give him/her your cash to order for you)

The biggest issue is that in years past the shirts have been such a cluster fuq that many that ordered never paid. Holly was kind enough to order extras and got stung on that as well as getting stuck with the unpaid leftovers. Vinny had the same problem, he just never said anything to anyone.

Plans are to keep the cost as low as possible, there maybe a few bucks that go to keep this site running if anything is left over at all. I'll post as soon as I have all the details.


I do want to thank Craig for stirring the pot and generating the buzz....its the most activity I have seen around here for a while. I still subscribe to the WWVD (What would Vinny do)....I can almost hear him say "fuck all this horseshit, lets get together burn some rubber and have a good time". (Just be sure to wear your new t-shirt).


Thanks Dave! I never said I didn't want shirts made. I just heard about the shirts late one night while I was sleeping, I got a message via Facebook about them. I do not care about making money off of the shirts, that is the farthest thing from my mind, but I also didn't want to get stuck with a bunch of shirts, which is immediately what came to mind when I heard about it. Here's my dilemma guys..... some will understand, some might not.... but as of today, I still own Stangbangerz, and no, I haven't been an active part of this website for over a couple of years because of drama, and my health (it about drove me to have a nervous breakdown a few times).... anyway, people were handling it well, I thought everything was going smoothly, then I get a message t-shirts are being made, and I haven't even been asked. As the rightful owner of this site, THIS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST BEEN RUN BY ME, and quite honestly, we would have avoided this whole thing. I didn't know Craig wanted to front the cost for the shirts, all I knew was t-shirts were being made, and in my past (bad experience) with this, I had to come up with the money, then try to get it back selling the ORDERED shirts. Last time, that didn't happen. Unfortunately I barely broke even, and got stuck with a lotta shirts I sold CHEAP, and even gave away to family. I freaked out when I heard shirts were being made, because believe it or not, right now, I am responsible for any money that goes through SBZ, and because I didn't know Craig had offered to pay, I thought I was going to have to come up with money, that I don't have.

So that's my story. People are always WELCOME to call me, ask my opinion, tell me to fuck off, whatever, I LISTEN! I just don't get on here for my own mental state - this board has caused a lot of drama in my life, and in Vinny's while he was alive, but damn it, I can't let it go down the tubes, so we're working to makes things better, hang in there everything, things will get better, because that is what our fearless leader, Vincent Daniel Changet, aka Vinny5oh would have wanted!

Thanks for listening, thanks for being here, and thanks for making Stangbangerz what it is today. It is not going to die, it's going to get better!

My email address is hchanget@fuse.net if anybody would like to email me and discuss this, or my cell number is (513) 226-1082, I'm open for discussion, but I think ordering shirts would be the best way going forward, as I'm sure Craig wants no part of his original offer (too bad I didn't know the details, I would have jumped on that!). Anyway, you might not see me on the board much, but I'm still around, and letting the most trusted people take care of it, and so far, so good. Thank you all, from the bottom of my broken heart. :cool2:

[Holly]

Hmmm....Shirts WERE going to cost $12 each. (BIG boy sizes are extra) I was thinking an easy $15 for a Bad Ass T. So that leaves $3.
$3x116=$348 to go towards the hosting of this site and the OWNER(s) didnt have to do SHIT.
AMAZING!!

That would have kicked ass, just WISH I had been told about it. I'm all for it, I said no at first because I knew NOTHING about it. You would think the owner would be the first one in the loop on things like this. :confused:

[Rick93coupe]

So your saying that someone who didn't know what they were talking about, gave you bad information?

[SN95N/A]

Very understandable

[k062693w]

Facebook has an option that Wakes you up when you get a message ???
I'm glad I don't Facebook ... I like my sleep !!!

[Mista Bone]

Facebook has an option that Wakes you up when you get a message ???
I'm glad I don't Facebook ... I like my sleep !!!

You don't get the bat signal?????

:popcorn:

[Holly]

Facebook has an option that Wakes you up when you get a message ???
I'm glad I don't Facebook ... I like my sleep !!!

Yes! On Smart Phones. Usually I turn it off, people know not to disturb me while I am sleeping, so I thought it was an emergency when I got a message!

[80 hate]

Well I'll still take 2 of the XL

[redfirepearlgt]

That would have kicked ass, just WISH I had been told about it. I'm all for it, I said no at first because I knew NOTHING about it. You would think the owner would be the first one in the loop on things like this. :confused:

Getting all sides of the story and not responding in "knee-jerk" reaction to one person's text message would have been a much wiser business decision.

[NO SHOT]

Seems like nothing would have mattered if all the shirt orders had not been cancelled..........:confused:

[pegasus]

cant we all just get along

[cobrajoe]

Thanks Dave! I never said I didn't want shirts made. I just heard about the shirts late one night while I was sleeping, I got a message via Facebook about them. I do not care about making money off of the shirts, that is the farthest thing from my mind, but I also didn't want to get stuck with a bunch of shirts, which is immediately what came to mind when I heard about it. Here's my dilemma guys..... some will understand, some might not.... but as of today, I still own Stangbangerz, and no, I haven't been an active part of this website for over a couple of years because of drama, and my health (it about drove me to have a nervous breakdown a few times).... anyway, people were handling it well, I thought everything was going smoothly, then I get a message t-shirts are being made, and I haven't even been asked. As the rightful owner of this site, THIS SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST BEEN RUN BY ME, and quite honestly, we would have avoided this whole thing. I didn't know Craig wanted to front the cost for the shirts, all I knew was t-shirts were being made, and in my past (bad experience) with this, I had to come up with the money, then try to get it back selling the ORDERED shirts. Last time, that didn't happen. Unfortunately I barely broke even, and got stuck with a lotta shirts I sold CHEAP, and even gave away to family. I freaked out when I heard shirts were being made, because believe it or not, right now, I am responsible for any money that goes through SBZ, and because I didn't know Craig had offered to pay, I thought I was going to have to come up with money, that I don't have.

So that's my story. People are always WELCOME to call me, ask my opinion, tell me to fuck off, whatever, I LISTEN! I just don't get on here for my own mental state - this board has caused a lot of drama in my life, and in Vinny's while he was alive, but damn it, I can't let it go down the tubes, so we're working to makes things better, hang in there everything, things will get better, because that is what our fearless leader, Vincent Daniel Changet, aka Vinny5oh would have wanted!

Thanks for listening, thanks for being here, and thanks for making Stangbangerz what it is today. It is not going to die, it's going to get better!

My email address is hchanget@fuse.net if anybody would like to email me and discuss this, or my cell number is (513) 226-1082, I'm open for discussion, but I think ordering shirts would be the best way going forward, as I'm sure Craig wants no part of his original offer (too bad I didn't know the details, I would have jumped on that!). Anyway, you might not see me on the board much, but I'm still around, and letting the most trusted people take care of it, and so far, so good. Thank you all, from the bottom of my broken heart. :cool2:

Holly no disrespect but no shirts where being made, they was being discussed, ideas bounced around and numbers wanted... You was actually close to being contacted on the third or fourth day I believe after Dave and Craig came up with a design...

Yes you are the owner but because you got half the info or wrong info is no reason to react with out discovering the facts for yourself.
Also from a business stand point Upper management usually has no idea about projects until all information is gathered, cost and designs are finalized. Then they either sign off or mothball the project. The reason I know this is because I have been involved with several projects just a tad bit bigger and A LOT more expensive than a T-shirt run....And trust me management does not like it if you don't know all the answers.. They want to know cost, how long, ROI/Profit margins... So contacting you before anything was close to being finalized was pointless... Add to the fact the thread was barely 3/4 days old more looking into it should have been done than a flat out NO or some other threat....

Also from another business standpoint Craig was going to front the order and keep extras at his shop, which actually is a pretty nice idea a centralized/know location...not someones house or at a cruise in... but a actual physical location... Think about Joe/Jill Blow working on his/her car ruins their SBZ shirt and says to self "well I'll just pick one up at the shop when I go." no bugging somebody...Craig has them there.

As far as YOU being responsible for any profit/loss... it's a LLC so if I'm correct your personal accounts are safe.

As far as trusted people running this place that may be true but it's also true that the moderator list needs updated and it's not getting done because of who knows why. I personally know people who have offered to help but because who knows why never got to help or even a response back . With Scott(Moontang) being in TX now who's taking that over the cruise in type stuff? To be honest who will offer considering all the BULLSHIT that goes on here? I also know that when the idea of this site being sold came up a person inquired and was told "well I'm only interested in _____ or _____ taking it over"
So from a business standpoint that seemed stupid to not even give the person a ballpark figure...JMO:rolleyes:

This place is not some big .com it's no Golden Parachute...

[70mm_LS1_Eater]

Exactly. How much could this place possibly be worth?

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

Exactly. How much could this place possibly be worth?

After recent events I would say less than the vendors were asked to pay. I wish I could get that money back:rolleyes: XOS, S&M Motorsports, and Cincy Speed shirts are currently available if you want to support business that give a shit about their customers. :bigthumb

[Whyucryn]

After recent events I would say less than the vendors were asked to pay. I wish I could get that money back:rolleyes: XOS, S&M Motorsports, and Cincy Speed shirts are currently available if you want to support business that give a shit about their customers. :bigthumb

I blame you! Lol. :bigthumb

[redfirepearlgt]

After recent events I would say less than the vendors were asked to pay. I wish I could get that money back:rolleyes: XOS, S&M Motorsports, and Cincy Speed shirts are currently available if you want to support business that give a shit about their customers. :bigthumb

We need a dyno day!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!

[smytty]

We need a dyno day!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!I second that.....

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

Patience, I am waiting to see what happens with this AWD dyno deal:bigthumb

[Bman]

I blame you! Lol. :bigthumb

Blame Bush. Everyone else does.

[fastone]

I got a question. I understand Holly owns the Stangbangerz website as a LLC. What else does she own? If there is not a trademark on the stangbangerz logo, then I hate to say it, but Holly has no say in who makes what with the logo. And since I don't see any trademarks on any old shirts or stickers, if Craig wants to make stangbangerz shirts all day long, he can without having to ask. I think what Craig was trying to do was very good hearted, I have only met Craig a few times, but I think if there was money made on the shirts it would have went to keeping the site up. For those few days, he had this place hoping! Then all the BS started, well without that trademark, not much you can do.

As for Mods, they need updated Holly! Silverbullet, has not been on here in 2+ years but he is still a MOD? This place needs some help but it maybe to late.

Reminds me of a funeral I went to the other day. I had never witnessed a fight between the family at the funeral til that day. Well I think it is happening here, everyone is fighting each other and the place is dead.

I don't own a stang anymore but I come on daily just to see what's going on, who's poking fun at who, see what's new for sale. I know people get older and schedules get more full with kids and such, but I think a big cruise in would be great. Maybe you guys do a cruise around town then back to someone who has some land for a pig roast or something. I would hate to see this place die.

[Racin Jason]

Well. I would like 1xl and 1 large 1 4t and 1 small

[cobrajoe]

thestaginglane


:lol:
That's still around?

Guess not... Have not heard a word.

[Walter]

Guess not... Have not heard a word.

:lol::lol::lol:

[Maximus]

So did any Tshirts ever happen?

[pegasus]

So did any Tshirts ever happen?

Oh snap shit just got real he's back

[chris91]

We did get some shirts but I don't think many people got em. I wear mine all the time. :)

[Rick93coupe]

I opted out of any T-shirts after the fact. At this point I'm all about it again.

[rtvickers]

I opted out of any T-shirts after the fact. At this point I'm all about it again.

I'm in also.

[mustang_gt88]

I bought shirts last time but will buy this time also

[2000GT]

id buy some!

[4n_eatr]

I bought one last time simply because I've been on this site since 2005 and have never gotten one. I'm all about getting a new one!.... or two... or three...

[Black Horse]

T-Shirts happened a couple of months ago (not many people bought them)......I had my printer keep the screens in case we wanted to do a re-print this year. We can do it again. Maybe this time black on grey. The more we order, the lower the price.

Here is what the last ones looked like:
http://www.stangbangerz.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84954

[redfirepearlgt]

So did any Tshirts ever happen?

Did any member of the administration ever apologize to you for all the false accusations over this? Old admin or new admin????

[Maximus]

Did any member of the administration ever apologize to you for all the false accusations over this? Old admin or new admin????

You mean did Holly ever apologize for the nasty email she sent me? No she did not and Im not looking for one. In her blindness, due to her control issue, I guess she forgot that I have done a lot of things for her & SBZ and never asked for any money. She has issues as anyone who lost their loved one would have so its water under the bridge.

As far as the old mods/admins, they had nothing to do with Holly actions, other than one of them calling her and putting something in her ear about Im trying to make money without her consent. Jealousy, greed and Envy are bad things when one has power.

I talked to Mike in person and he seems to want to take SBZ on, so I wished him well and told him that with Holly out of the way, SBZ might come back around. Time will tell, although with a few guys interested in Ts again, it seems to be looking good.

:cheers:

[NXcoupe]

Can we get some new designs? Welcome back Craig.

[chris91]

I'm game for a new design, can never have too many cool stang shirts! :D

[2000GT]

i like the idea of gray shirts and some new designs. black seems to fade to fast.

but i'll for sure buy at least a couple if start making/selling them!

[Black Horse]

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions for new designs?

[redfirepearlgt]

You mean did Holly ever apologize for the nasty email she sent me? No she did not and Im not looking for one. In her blindness, due to her control issue, I guess she forgot that I have done a lot of things for her & SBZ and never asked for any money. She has issues as anyone who lost their loved one would have so its water under the bridge.

As far as the old mods/admins, they had nothing to do with Holly actions, other than one of them calling her and putting something in her ear about Im trying to make money without her consent. Jealousy, greed and Envy are bad things when one has power.

I talked to Mike in person and he seems to want to take SBZ on, so I wished him well and told him that with Holly out of the way, SBZ might come back around. Time will tell, although with a few guys interested in Ts again, it seems to be looking good.

:cheers:

Gotcha. What I figured. Glad to see ya back either way.

[pegasus]

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions for new designs?

how about a horse having relations with a camaro

[NXcoupe]

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions for new designs?

Maybe take one of the DD sticker logos and put sbz around it, or put the DD sticker logo on the back and sbz on the front? Just tossing ideas out....

[sean]

I'll buy three. I'll need small tight wife size.. Same size for my 13 year old daughter... It will be loose on her. Lol and one fat me size.

[rtvickers]

Welcome back Craig. It's good to see you back.

I like the last ones and I'd like to have a few with the commandments on the back.

[devous1]

tshirts

tshirts

tshirts

I'd like some wife beaters, to go with my Daisy Dukes. Preferably white with denim logo.

I know, shut the fuck up new guy.

I still like white on black, the more faded it is just makes ya look old school.

[devous1]

Fuck it what ever you come up with I'll take

(2) xxl t shirt
(1) xxl hoodie
(1) m wife beater I like em tight when its hot

[4n_eatr]

Welcome back Craig. It's good to see you back.

I like the last ones and I'd like to have a few with the commandments on the back.

Thats what I was thinking...

[2Fast4You]

If Craig is in, I'm back in for shirts.

[86gt40]

1 xl
1 sm
Thanks !

[Maximus]

Im thinking they better start a new thread.:bigthumb

[redfirepearlgt]

If Craig is in, I'm back in for shirts.

^^^:bigthumb


Im thinking they better start a new thread.:bigthumb

I agree. Time to ditch this thread and start over.

[Mista Bone]

Oh snap shit just got real he's back

I knew it was chilly this morning.....

:popcorn:

[DSSKing68]

Good to see you back Craig. T-shirts are always a good thing...

[Maximus]

STILL no T-shirts? Who is running this place???

Dudes are/were begging for some T-shirts and the higher ups cant produce?? I mean its one thing to have the site down for what, a week or two, but damn.
Get Ts made up for $6-8 and sell for $10-15. Dave D already HAS the artwork so there is NO art fee and you, still cant produce a SBZ T??

No homepage and no SBZ Ts. Fucking Sad.:(

NM...I read where Dave did some, but no interest killed them. :o


Maybe yall should point SBZ directly at the Facebook SBZ page??

[redfirepearlgt]

Maybe an SBZ event would prompt some sales. Bet CS Dyno Day does wonders for shirt sales.

[rtvickers]

I'm in for Tshirts.

[mustang_gt88]

I would buy shirts