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CNTLOSE
04-29-2016, 03:21 PM
No, I meant Kasich. What a tool.

Oh I agree...he is a POS. But he is the only one not hated by the powers that be of the GOP.

Goldenpony
04-29-2016, 04:52 PM
No, just the voters outside of Ohio.

Goldenpony
05-01-2016, 03:14 PM
Now it all hinges on Indiana Tuesday...

redfirepearlgt
05-01-2016, 05:37 PM
^^^ He has Coach Knight's endorsement. Coach is still king in Indiana. Never bet against a Bob Knight endorsement in the Hoosier state. That's this Hoosier's opinion of Tuesday anyway.

Goldenpony
05-01-2016, 09:42 PM
Not only did he get a REAL endorsement from Bobby Knight, the endorsement Pence gave Cruz was not only half hearted, it was almost more of an endorsement for Trump. Politics, you can't make this shit up.

Goldenpony
05-03-2016, 07:12 PM
Trump projected winner in Indiana-by a big amount. It's pretty much over.

04 Venom
05-03-2016, 07:22 PM
Trump projected winner in Indiana-by a big amount. It's pretty much over.

It's over for the Republican party in November as well.

Goldenpony
05-03-2016, 07:29 PM
It's possible. We'll see.
One sure way it could be over for the Republicans is if they try to take the nomination away from Trump. They had damn well better listen to the people this time.

redfirepearlgt
05-03-2016, 07:32 PM
BOB KNIGHT FOR PRESIDENT!!!

beefcake
05-03-2016, 07:39 PM
It's possible. We'll see.
One sure way it could be over for the Republicans is if they try to take the nomination away from Trump. They had damn well better listen to the people this time.

i agree

Goldenpony
05-03-2016, 07:40 PM
BOB KNIGHT FOR PRESIDENT!!!

There you go...

beefcake
05-03-2016, 08:01 PM
You're right, Trump will never be the Republican nomination let alone president.

i dunno, looks as of now, he has 59% of the delegates

out of the remaining delegates he only needs 37%..........

could be a trump for president!!!

Goldenpony
05-03-2016, 08:14 PM
You won't make a dime betting against the Trumpster.

cstreu1026
05-03-2016, 08:33 PM
You won't money voting against the establishment either.

It is however a great time to be a libertarian.

cstreu1026
05-03-2016, 08:44 PM
Cruz is out busy Kasich is still in....think that has anything to do with planned party shenanigans?

Blkcobra01
05-03-2016, 09:46 PM
It's possible. We'll see.
One sure way it could be over for the Republicans is if they try to take the nomination away from Trump. They had damn well better listen to the people this time.

This

cstreu1026
05-03-2016, 10:00 PM
Just remember the political parties are private organizations. They do as they please.

CNTLOSE
05-04-2016, 12:05 AM
Well now that Trump has it locked up...more or less...let's see if the GOP powers that be start supporting him and attacking the candidate they should have been all along.

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 05:19 AM
I think they will

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 11:49 AM
If they don't, it's another president Clinton.

cstreu1026
05-04-2016, 01:15 PM
Its going to be another Clinton in office no matter who the GOP puts up. Trump is 13 points behind against Clinton in the latest polling.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 01:26 PM
He's got a lot of time left to take on the wicked witch. She's never gone against anybody like Trump. Hell, she might even be in an orange jump suit by then. She's made a lot of mistakes.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 03:24 PM
Out of 16 Republican candidates, Trump is the only one with negatives higher than Clinton.

Then there is the electoral problem for Republicans. There are 164 solid electoral votes for Republicans and 27 that lean Republican. The solidly Democratic states total 201 electoral votes and 36 that lean Democratic. If the Democrats hold the states going back to 1992, they only have to win Florida or two smaller toss-up states to win. The demographic trends are not helpful either. The reliably "red" voters are declining and the "blue' voter segments are increasing. The Hispanic growth in Texas will eventually turn the biggest red state blue within 12-16 years.

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 04:56 PM
We'll have to see how it shakes out. If it goes to the wicked witch, it's over for America. This is truly our last shot at getting our country back. If not, may our children forgive us.

cstreu1026
05-04-2016, 05:01 PM
Its awfully had to attack someone you've given money too in the past and not suffer blowback.

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 06:07 PM
Six Questions...

The following is incredible! I didn’t get one correct answer. Prepare for a shock at the answer and prepare yourself for the next election !! Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it's kind of fun and revealing. If you don't know the answers make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers. And, no, the answers to these questions aren't all “Barack Obama”.

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev B. Joseph Goebbels C. Boris Yeltsin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Tung B. Hugo Chavez C. Kim Jong II
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above



6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein D. Barack Obama E. None of the above .


........Scroll down for answers



And the answers are ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(1) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004


(2) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007


(3) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(4) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(5 ) E None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(6). E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005


**** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president if you don't forward this to everyone that you know.


Lets face it people, while Bernie might be a socalist, Hillary is pretty much a communist.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 06:15 PM
We'll have to see how it shakes out. If it goes to the wicked witch, it's over for America. This is truly our last shot at getting our country back. If not, may our children forgive us.

You are way too pessimistic. Every presidential election is portrayed as "taking our country back" by someone. Presidents are not kings. They can't spend one dime that is not appropriated by Congress and last time I checked laws have to be passed by Congress. The political system is designed to restrain rapid change, particularly when the country is divided as much as it is now.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 06:17 PM
Six Questions...

The following is incredible! I didn’t get one correct answer. Prepare for a shock at the answer and prepare yourself for the next election !! Six trivia questions to see how much history you really know. Be honest, it's kind of fun and revealing. If you don't know the answers make your best guess. Answer all of the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers. And, no, the answers to these questions aren't all “Barack Obama”.

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx B. Adolph Hitler C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin B. Mussolini C. Idi Amin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev B. Joseph Goebbels C. Boris Yeltsin D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."
A. Mao Tse Tung B. Hugo Chavez C. Kim Jong II
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above


5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx B. Lenin C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama E. None of the above



6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet B. Milosevic C. Saddam Hussein D. Barack Obama E. None of the above .


........Scroll down for answers



And the answers are ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(1) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004


(2) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007


(3) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(4) E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(5 ) E None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007


(6). E. None of the above.
Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005


**** Want to know something scary? She may be the next president if you don't forward this to everyone that you know.


Lets face it people, while Bernie might be a socalist, Hillary is pretty much a communist.

The internet is filled with useless crap.

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 07:08 PM
Look at the damage Obama has done and tell me I'm being too pessimistic. More debt than all past presidents combined, destroyed our healthcare system, destroyed our standing in the eyes of our allies and enemies,set back race relations 50 years, degraded our military-need I go on?

cstreu1026
05-04-2016, 07:43 PM
What is that you believe Trump is going to do if he manages to find his way to the Oval Office? The Republican establishment doesn't like him and there is no way Democrats will work with him.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 07:51 PM
What is that you believe Trump is going to do if he manages to find his way to the Oval Office? The Republican establishment doesn't like him and there is no way Democrats will work with him.

Absolutely

CNTLOSE
05-04-2016, 08:19 PM
What is that you believe Trump is going to do if he manages to find his way to the Oval Office? The Republican establishment doesn't like him and there is no way Democrats will work with him.

Then he can do the same thing Obama has done time and time again...Executive Orders.

cstreu1026
05-04-2016, 08:53 PM
So he becomes a fascist dictator? What happens when congress won't fund anything he wants?

redfirepearlgt
05-04-2016, 09:11 PM
So he becomes a fascist dictator? What happens when congress won't fund anything he wants?

And the perfect qualifications for president in your opinion would be? Not candidate, but rather qualifications. All you can tout is negativity about this candidate and that candidate. So since Trump who, isn't a career politician or Washington hob-nobbing lawyer with a degree from Harvard isn't anti establishment enough for you what are the Cameron Qualifications for the "perfect candidate" that would make Cameron optimistic enough to actually vote for him? I would really like to know out of sheer curiosity. Again not a name, but qualifications that would get your 100% support behind the candidate?

cstreu1026
05-04-2016, 09:30 PM
Well let's start by not promising things you can't possibly deliver. I won't cast a vote for anyone who doesn't hold liberty above core value. On top of that they had better believe in peace, tolerance, limited government, and free markets. The only two appealing aspects to Trump are that he's not a career politician and that he appears to be for a non-interventionist foreign policy. However I have a really hard time believing anything that comes out of his mouth.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 10:43 PM
Then he can do the same thing Obama has done time and time again...Executive Orders.

That won't work either. Executive orders are limited to the enforcement actions of the executive branch and certain rule-making authority to implement legislation passed by Congress. Both are subject to review by the judicial branch ( such was the case recently when the courts struck down the rules issued by the EPA regarding power plant emissions).

Not possible.

- - - Updated - - -


Well let's start by not promising things you can't possibly deliver. I won't cast a vote for anyone who doesn't hold liberty above core value. On top of that they had better believe in peace, tolerance, limited government, and free markets. The only two appealing aspects to Trump are that he's not a career politician and that he appears to be for a non-interventionist foreign policy. However I have a really hard time believing anything that comes out of his mouth.

Agree

redfirepearlgt
05-04-2016, 10:59 PM
Well let's start by not promising things you can't possibly deliver. I won't cast a vote for anyone who doesn't hold liberty above core value. On top of that they had better believe in peace, tolerance, limited government, and free markets. The only two appealing aspects to Trump are that he's not a career politician and that he appears to be for a non-interventionist foreign policy. However I have a really hard time believing anything that comes out of his mouth.

Okay. Most would agree with you on those qualifications including me I would speculate. Sadly IMO no one candidate will ever fulfill that criteria. And even if one does they often have good intent history shows they often get sucked in once in office. Trump isn't my first choice either. But like you I like that he is not a career politician. I also hope he is above being swayed by lobbyists since he already has money, but time will tell IF he gets elected. I think we would both agree that the country does not need Clinton or Sanders either of which would strip liberty, grow government and fleece free market further. If there were a future Libertarian or tea partier with a chance at winning any office that meets this criteria I would also cast a vote for them. So I will accept the cards I have been dealt in this case, support the man who hopefully backs being for smaller government, spending less, and protecting our liberties. At least he isn't running a campaign on free college tuition. LOL!

Thanks for sharing. Helps me to better understand where you are coming from.

Now get that Coyote swap done. LOL!

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 10:59 PM
Look at the damage Obama has done and tell me I'm being too pessimistic. More debt than all past presidents combined, destroyed our healthcare system, destroyed our standing in the eyes of our allies and enemies,set back race relations 50 years, degraded our military-need I go on?

High school civics: only Congress can levy taxes and appropriate funds. You would have a better case blaming Congress.

For most people, Obamacare hasn't changed much. Like many people, I have private insurance. It hasn't affected my coverage or premiums. The impact of Obamacare is exaggerated, in my view. Besides, I fully predict a single payer system will be implemented in the not too distant future, such as making Medicare available to everyone--with private insurance for Part B expenses/medi-gap coverage.

Relations with Europe and Asia don't seem to be affected much. Certainly our relations with Saudi Arabia and Israel have worsened, but I don't believe the Mideast is worth the American lives that have been lost or the money we have spent. I agree with Trump; what has 5000 American lives and $1 trillion dollars in Iraq bought us?

Your concern for race relations seems like crocodile tears.

Goldenpony
05-04-2016, 11:33 PM
Sounds like you'll be very happy under a president Clinton.

04 Venom
05-04-2016, 11:40 PM
Sounds like you'll be very happy under a president Clinton.

It seems a foregone conclusion. I think it absolute irony that the Republicans have chosen the only weaker candidate than Clinton. It boggles the mind.

Rick93coupe
05-05-2016, 02:46 AM
LOL, 1 day after he becomes the presumptive nominee, Mexico has an Oh-shit moment.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/04/president-fox-apologizes-invites-trump-mexico/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 07:51 AM
Nothing changes if Clinton is elected, which is both good and bad. We continue rack up massive debt, bomb brown people, attack the right to own guns, incarcerate minorities, shame people for success, give subsidies and handouts to corporations. In essence it will be another 4-8 years of the same policies we've had under both Bush and Obama. With Trump we become isolationist. Every thing you buy becomes more expensive if he manages to put tariffs in place on foreign goods or funds a way to force goods to be made here at much higher labor rates. There are no deals to be made when world leaders won't talk to you.

There are candidates running that are great alternatives but the American electorate has been brain washed in to believing that if you don't vote for the perceived lesser of two evils then you are wasting your vote. In reality the only two ways to waste a vote is to not vote at all or to vote for a candidate you don't believe in. Choosing between Trump and Clinton is nothing more than choosing which type of cancer you prefer.

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 08:00 AM
For sale.....one "republican" presidential candidate.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-wont-self-fund-general-election-campaign-1462399502

04 Venom
05-05-2016, 09:54 AM
You would think that someone with Trump's money could afford a better spray tan. The dyed blond hair and the orange face are a deadly combination. Where are the gold chains?

Goldenpony
05-05-2016, 12:52 PM
Love it. Kind of reminds me of Iran freeing the hostages the day Reagan took office.

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 01:02 PM
The anarchist part of me wants to see Trump elected so I can 1) watch a once great nation spiral in to the depths of hell 2) say I told you so.

Goldenpony
05-05-2016, 01:13 PM
That started 7 years ago

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 01:23 PM
It startred further back than that. Outside of Obamacare the current administration is nothing more than an extension of the Bush era.

Something else to ponder....whats to say both sides won't collude to use the electoral college to keep Trump out of the White House even if he manages to win the popular vote?

Goldenpony
05-05-2016, 01:26 PM
If that were to happen, all Hell will break loose.

redfirepearlgt
05-05-2016, 01:49 PM
It startred further back than that. Outside of Obamacare the current administration is nothing more than an extension of the Bush era.

Something else to ponder....whats to say both sides won't collude to use the electoral college to keep Trump out of the White House even if he manages to win the popular vote?

Lets hope not. If they would/could do that the same could happen to third party candidates with a run at the white house should there ever be another chance of that. Last I recall ever to be a slight risk was billionaire Ross Perot in 1992.

04 Venom
05-05-2016, 03:07 PM
If that were to happen, all Hell will break loose.

You do realize that Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000?

04 Venom
05-05-2016, 03:08 PM
It startred further back than that. Outside of Obamacare the current administration is nothing more than an extension of the Bush era.


I agree.

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 03:44 PM
You do realize that Gore got more votes than Bush in 2000?

That's actually happened 4 times in the history of the electoral college.

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 08:47 PM
Trump may get the nomination but it's beginning to look like he will be going it alone. Every establishment republican is wasting to no time in declaring they will not endorse or support Trump.

Goldenpony
05-05-2016, 09:41 PM
It is really, really early in this campaign. A lot of things will change in the next 6 months-count on it.

cstreu1026
05-05-2016, 09:47 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

Goldenpony
05-05-2016, 10:38 PM
What else can I do?
Let me tell you something. I am 70 years old. I don't have a hell of a lot of years left. But, you younger folks, if you don't try to get this mess straightened out, you will end up living in the United Socialist States of America-and I promise you this, it won't be a great place to live. Look at the other socialist countries around the world and decide if you want that here. We're already on a slippery slope.
I grew up in a more or less free society, a capitalist system that gave us a pretty darn good life. Our system isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than most places in the world. A couple of pages back somebody called me pessimistic, I think I am realistic.
Yes, I am supporting Donald Trump. No, he sure as hell isn't perfect, but I would rather take my chances with him than Hillary Clinton. I don't want to argue with anybody, I just want to live the rest of my life happy and free. I wish the same for my kids & grand kids. All I can say is I hope this all works out.
Best of luck.

Rick93coupe
05-06-2016, 12:28 AM
Trump may get the nomination but it's beginning to look like he will be going it alone. Every establishment republican is wasting to no time in declaring they will not endorse or support Trump.

True conservatives have been fighting the establishment republicans for a long time. Are you surprised people are afraid of change? You know as well as I do, they want to be in charge of everything and Donald threw a wrench into all off that. As I told you before, I'll support the republican nominee and it looks like it's going to be Donald. He wasn't my first pick admittedly but he's pulling votes from places Ted Cruz and John Kasich could never reach. That's good news for anyone who understands what's at stake with a Hillary presidency. Sure you can say it would be more of the same under Hillary but at some point you have to stop the fucking leak and start bailing out the boat. I sure don't see Donald pushing an anti 2nd amendment agenda. Can you say that about Hillary?

Rick93coupe
05-06-2016, 01:43 AM
https://www.facebook.com/newtgingrich/videos/10154055809184197/

Goldenpony
05-06-2016, 05:15 AM
I'd love to see Donald name Newt Gingrich as VP.

cstreu1026
05-06-2016, 05:17 AM
I see trump doing and saying whatever he thinks will suit him,not the American people. The best scenario with him getting elected is that Congress reclaims its authority that it has slowly seceded to the executive branch and absolutely nothing gets done. You give the president too much credit for being able change things. Congress writes the laws, Congress controls the purse,and with somebody as disliked as Donald Trump in office not even veto power will have an effect. So you're maybe having him in office is a good thing. It could restore our checks and balance system to what the founders intended.

redfirepearlgt
05-06-2016, 05:43 AM
I'd love to see Donald name Newt Gingrich as VP.

That would be a disaster. Too much baggage IMO. Newt had his chance. The people didn't want him.

Goldenpony
05-06-2016, 05:46 AM
He's also probably the smartest man in Washington.

redfirepearlgt
05-06-2016, 08:26 AM
He's also probably the smartest man in Washington.

Possibly. Doesn't make him a good candidate. Clinton (Billy boy) ain't a box-o-rocks. He is actually pretty intelligent. But that doesn't make him a good VP candidate. Smart isn't always that best answer. Few of these slimy Ivy league law school politicians crawling around Washington are stupid by any means. They did manage to graduate law-school which is a feat in and of itself, not to mention passing their state bar. But that doesn't give them street smarts or wisdom. It simply gives them book smarts.

No. If Trump wishes to have a chance at this election he needs to find a running mate that is not cut from the same political mold as every other useless piece of human existence
in that town. He needs someone fresh and with some common sense, as well as a little reservation to counter his boldness. A superego for his id if you will. So I would propose a man like Ben Carson or someone of that nature who is NOT a 20 year politician from Harvard.

That's my OPINION/Speculation on the topic. Feel free to disagree.

Goldenpony
05-06-2016, 11:45 AM
No, I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just like to see very intelligent people, but I see the logic in what you say. Even though I don't like Kasich much, I think he would be a good choice . Even Rubio, but I don't know if he would take it. On the other hand, JFK & LBJ absolutely hated each other-so who knows.

redfirepearlgt
05-06-2016, 12:00 PM
^^^ True. Will be interesting to see who he goes with. There may be a viable candidate in politics who could be that superego to him and still present themselves as that non-typical Washington ill-influenced mouthpiece but I don't know who it would be. I'd prefer a Governor over some Senator or Congressman if he HAS to go that way. Either way it needs to be someone composed that would still be able to have the same type A personality that would stand up to him behind closed doors after getting elected. I could even see Kasich in there which would help carry Ohio. Don't know if I prefer him though...again a typical politician IMO. Will be interesting to see what pans out over the next few months. As always I am merely speculating and giving personal opinion. Nothing based on fact searching the internet over.



Again all opinion and speculation based on hunches and nothing else.

Goldenpony
05-06-2016, 12:08 PM
I kind of hope Trump might be like JFK if elected. Kennedy surrounded himself with the smartest people he could. I kind of see Trump doing that. Trump has done that in his business dealings. I think Trump is smart enough to get expert opinions and just be the executive. That would be a major difference between him and Obama, who seems to think he knows everything, I guess it's good to be king.

04 Venom
05-06-2016, 01:41 PM
Well we finally know how Trump proposes to eliminate the national debt in 8 years. He's going to convince the individuals and nations that hold treasury bonds to accept less than the full amount for repayment. So, I guess he believes the Chinese we take 80% of what they are owed?

Brilliant. And, where we he get the money to pay off the price of the reduced bonds?

Let's assume he can convince someone to do exactly that. What are the long-term consequences? The national debt increases because no one will buy US bonds because they can't be assured of full payment. So, US bonds now are rated as junk bonds by the credit agencies (like Greece) and instead of paying a couple of percent interest, buyers will demand 10% interest because of the risk of repayment.

Another reason why Trump is dangerous to the nation.

cstreu1026
05-06-2016, 02:47 PM
Welcome to Puerto Rico

Rick93coupe
05-06-2016, 05:15 PM
I'd love to see Donald name Newt Gingrich as VP.

I'd like to see him in some advisory position, I love Newt

Goldenpony
05-10-2016, 05:00 PM
Really? Cruz talking about re-opening his campaign? Pathetic.

04 Venom
05-11-2016, 03:19 PM
First Trump claims he can't realize his tax returns because he is being audited (a bullshit excuse) and today he states he won't release any of his tax returns. Dumb move and yet another flip flop.

Goldenpony
05-11-2016, 04:41 PM
It's starting to happen...

1baddlx
05-11-2016, 04:44 PM
Let's dump trump!

Goldenpony
05-11-2016, 05:11 PM
Ain't gonna happen...

1baddlx
05-11-2016, 09:54 PM
Ain't gonna happen...

It's going to happen, he has lied to much already..face reality he's crooked and we all know it...

Goldenpony
05-11-2016, 10:36 PM
Keep telling yourself that...

So, who are you backing? Are they pure as the driven snow? You must be a Hillary backer-she's never told a lie, right?

Blkcobra01
05-11-2016, 10:55 PM
It's going to happen, he has lied to much already..face reality he's crooked and we all know it...

Most if not all politicians are crooks. Let me guess you're voting for Hillary and in your eyes she is a saint.

04 Venom
05-11-2016, 11:18 PM
Most if not all politicians are crooks. Let me guess you're voting for Hillary and in your eyes she is a saint.

I don't believe all, or most politicians, are crooks. Most, if not all, make claims that they know can't be fulfilled, if for no other reason than Congress would never approve what they propose. Making claims that won't be realized is hardly new, but people still believe and are surprised when it doesn't happen. It's as much fault of the voters, and the media, for not challenging these statements, as it is the politicians that make them.

The most egregious lies, IMO, are the attack ads that the PACS make during the campaign. Money is the root of all evil in politics.

cstreu1026
05-12-2016, 06:49 AM
Trump is already back pedaling on promises he's made on the campaign trail. While being interviewed by George Stephanopoulos he admitted to promising lower taxes but when he's done "negotiating" that taxes will go up. He's also reversed course on the minimum wage. His self funded campaign is also a joke. His campaign borrowed money from him which he will no doubt pay back with interest using donations and GOP money.

redfirepearlgt
05-12-2016, 07:32 AM
As I understood him to say, he would leave minimum wage hikes at the state level. That means less fed intervention as I see it. Maybe I heard wrong? Guess only time will tell on your speculation of how he handles campaign funding. I would venture to say the latter would be illegal use of funds for which he would then be subject to investigation and possible punishment if found guilty. He's not Houdini Hillary so he won't likely get away with it if that happens. BTW impressed you could spell Georges last name, seriously. I couldn't do that without "googling" the spelling of it. LOL! Taxes going up we will also wait to see on. I know you are a Peterson fan, and a staunch libertarian, which is fine, but there's nothing to say Petersen or any other libertarian would hold true to their word. That's why one must always take campaign promises with a grain of salt IMO. It's kind of like telling a girl anything she wants to hear in order to get into her pants as I see it. Just have to weed through the crap and determine which person you like. I have chosen Trump. I have no interest in supporting any libertarian who wishes to support pot legalization. I don't need a reason, I simply don't want it. And I won't debate the issue. That's all I will say about that. So Don, though not my first choice, will get my vote and I can only speculate he will do far better than Hillary or Bernie. Further I hope his VP selection is Ben Carson or someone with a Ben Carson disposition.

1baddlx
05-12-2016, 07:46 AM
Keep telling yourself that...

So, who are you backing? Are they pure as the driven snow? You must be a Hillary backer-she's never told a lie, right?

At least your admitting that trump has lied,now we're making progress...this is the trump endorsement thread you started ...lol

cstreu1026
05-12-2016, 08:02 AM
I had to google it. I had an "i" in there.

I have no doubt that the campaign finance part is both likely and true. Hillary is drawing a $250,000 "salary" to campaign.

redfirepearlgt
05-12-2016, 08:57 AM
I had to google it. I had an "i" in there.

I have no doubt that the campaign finance part is both likely and true. Hillary is drawing a $250,000 "salary" to campaign.

Well I still hold you in high regard intellectually. I have always referred to George as snufflufugus or however you spell that Sesame Street character's name. LOL!

cstreu1026
05-12-2016, 11:55 AM
Spelling is not my forte.

04 Venom
05-12-2016, 03:25 PM
So Trump's proposed ban on Muslims entering the country was "merely a suggestion". In the short time he has been the nominee, he is setting the world record for flip-flops. The guy basically has no core beliefs. He says what he believes will advance his own interests.

cstreu1026
05-12-2016, 04:38 PM
and he makes no attempt to hide it.

Goldenpony
05-12-2016, 04:44 PM
You can go ahead and vote for Hillary, and a 3rd term for Obama-I'm voting for the Trumpster.

Rick93coupe
12-03-2016, 12:07 AM
It's over for the Republican party in November as well.

:bigthumb LOL

04 Venom
12-03-2016, 10:17 AM
:bigthumb LOL

Yeah, I earned that. I still think Trump will be a disaster; I hope I'm wrong on that too.

Rick93coupe
12-03-2016, 10:57 AM
I was looking up something last night and came across that thread and couldn't help myself. I generally like the balance of power, it can go well or seriously wrong at this point, time will tell.

Goldenpony
12-18-2016, 03:12 PM
Anybody see that sad video of the washed up actors trying to get the electors to vote against Trump. My God, Loretta Swit looks like she could play a part of a zombie in Walking Dead without any make up.

cstreu1026
12-19-2016, 06:36 AM
If you're talking about the SNL skit I though it was hilarious.

redfirepearlgt
12-19-2016, 09:58 AM
Anybody see that sad video of the washed up actors trying to get the electors to vote against Trump. My God, Loretta Swit looks like she could play a part of a zombie in Walking Dead without any make up.

Saw a similar ad with other washed up actors doing the same. Martin Sheen was the only one with any recent work in the lot. Same guy invited transients to camp out on his property when his local area voted down a homeless shelter and then called the police and had them all arrested when they started showing up. Took place back in the early 90's while I was living out west. Doubt it got much national attention, but it earned him a lot of negative respect locally.

I'm still waiting on news that Hollywood celebs are moving to Canada. Haven't heard any however. Will rejoice when I do if ever.

Goldenpony
01-13-2017, 05:13 AM
Canada can have all of them

Goldenpony
01-19-2017, 02:00 PM
Hail to the Chief! Go President Trump, make us great again.

IWRBB
01-19-2017, 03:17 PM
Last day for Obama. Now please GTFO!

Goldenpony
01-19-2017, 05:57 PM
+1

redfirepearlgt
01-19-2017, 06:12 PM
HOURS NOT DAYS UNTIL BARRY AND MIKE HIT THE BRICKS. If the stock stays as stable as it has been since 11/8/2016 and not down 250 one day and up 150 the next as over the past four+ years, I just might be able to retire before I'm 70. Thanks Barry for such a strong economy over the past 8 years :blink:. Well at least the Clinton's, Warren Buffet, Ted Turner, George Soros, and the Entertainment Industry made money. That's okay. LOL!

Goldenpony
01-20-2017, 02:21 PM
GOD BLESS AMERICA-AND PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!

redfirepearlgt
01-20-2017, 05:53 PM
Heard that there will be a Trump Phone available. The marketing slogan is - GO GET A FRICKIN JOB AND BUY ONE!

Now lets have equal interest and not special interest only, over the next four years.

Goldenpony
01-20-2017, 06:44 PM
Love it!

Rick93coupe
01-20-2017, 10:30 PM
Heard that there will be a Trump Phone available. The marketing slogan is - GO GET A FRICKIN JOB AND BUY ONE!

Now lets have equal interest and not special interest only, over the next four years.

LMAO!

Pops Fun
01-21-2017, 09:54 AM
Enjoyed the inauguration yesterday.
Was hoping some of the drama on facebook would die down, getting worst. lol
They will never realize they lost.

redfirepearlgt
01-21-2017, 10:42 AM
Enjoyed the inauguration yesterday.
Was hoping some of the drama on facebook would die down, getting worst. lol
They will never realize they lost.

A baby when realizing it is about to be weened from the tit and has to start learning to feed itself puts up a big fight also.

vertigo
01-24-2017, 11:00 AM
Heard that there will be a Trump Phone available. The marketing slogan is - GO GET A FRICKIN JOB AND BUY ONE!

Now lets have equal interest and not special interest only, over the next four years.

I heard he's collecting all the phones and passing out alarm clocks!

redfirepearlgt
01-24-2017, 01:11 PM
I just choked on my spit from laughing so hard. FHEW! I need a drink of water...

Goldenpony
01-25-2017, 12:27 AM
Yup, time to quit riding the wagon & start to help pulling it. Didn't I read in the Bible that if a man will not work neither should he eat, or something like that.

redfirepearlgt
01-25-2017, 05:38 AM
Yup, time to quit riding the wagon & start to help pulling it. Didn't I read in the Bible that if a man will not work neither should he eat, or something like that.

Pull your Bible out and see.