2008 Dirty Dozen Discussion Thread

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11-24-2008, 12:28 PM
1992MustangDW

im glad Im to slow to be arguing about this.:bigthumb

My qustion is what do you get if your number 1?
11-24-2008, 12:29 PM
Metcalf Racing

You get to say "I'M #1"
11-24-2008, 12:31 PM
1992MustangDW

SWEET!! I want that.
11-24-2008, 12:34 PM
Silver Bullet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metcalf Racing

I might be mistakin but you haven't raced the car again because of the header so that makes it broke

I ran the car after that happened to the header tube.;)
11-24-2008, 12:35 PM
YouGotJunk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

I ran the car after that happened to the header tube.;)

What did it run?
11-24-2008, 12:35 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

Ken, a dented header tube is not broke, in my definition. Sorry for your confusion.;)

Fix your car, Bolt your Futura's back on that baby, and come back down to Middletown and tell me how my back bumper looks:angel:
11-24-2008, 12:37 PM
Rob

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Originally Posted by yougotjunk

I agree with ya there completely, BUT that's not the rules of the Dozen right now. Everyone nit picks the people on the list they dont like, but when the people they like has something happen to them, it should just be looked over as preventitive maintenance or some other bullshit excuse. If I got thrown off for changing a headgasket that wasn't blow, just seeping a little water, than yes any kind of breakage at all and you should have to back up your time or your off the list. It's pretty plain and simple really.

I dont think you should have been kicked off plain and simple.
11-24-2008, 12:39 PM
Metcalf Racing

Thats how the games played ask Kelly Shotwell
11-24-2008, 12:40 PM
Metcalf Racing

My 9.94 is still not posted up
11-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Rob

Quote:

Originally Posted by yougotjunk

lol Next year this, next year that! Sounds like a famous line from CSR or something. Everyone I know plans on running 6's next year!!

:lol: Your right I sound like one of thoses nancies, I do have something in the works. I just hope I have the time to do it. ;)
11-24-2008, 12:41 PM
YouGotJunk

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Originally Posted by Rob@RRC

I dont think you should have been kicked off plain and simple.

Dang I've got like 5-6 votes now. Where were you guys whenever I was argueing this before? Anyways, i'm not worried about it. If I get to worried about it i'll go have my own sticker made up..maybe along the line of..."Didn't make the Dozen, but i'm willing to race about half of them"
11-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Metcalf Racing

better buy a car LMAO
11-24-2008, 12:43 PM
91lxnos

I think the running of the Dozen would have cleared up alot of this if it were followed thru with. This is getting bigger then I think Vinny ever thought it would. just some suggestions:

1. Two dates at the end of the season to run the DD
2. Set the dates early in the season so arangements can be made to attend in late October. ie (work scheduels, children ect....)
3. If you don't make one of the two events you will not make the list.
4. Moderators at both DD shootouts to "make the call" on broke or not
5. keep the list thru the year for say top 20 cars to qualify to run for the DD at the shootout
6. all times are thrown out. times are just used to qualify your car for the DD shootout times you run at the shootout are times that place you on the final DD list.
7. Make all cars run three BACK to BACK passes to prove street worthyness
8. Must run the DD with DR tires..This is a street car shootout
9. Car must be owned and registered to driver and proof of insurance.
You have all season to get a car out to the track to qualify for the shootout then run for the top spot.
Just some suggestions
maybe we need a rules board (NOT JUST MODERATORS) to define the rules

who would ever thought a sticker could cause so much shit!!!
11-24-2008, 12:44 PM
Black Horse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metcalf Racing

My 9.94 is still not posted up

Post up the title with your name, proof of insurance and the time slips with witnesses to your run......same rules as everyone
11-24-2008, 12:44 PM
YouGotJunk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metcalf Racing

better buy a car LMAO

Talking awful tough knowing that i'm about to strap a turbo on an LS1 car and bust your ass! I had fun with the mustang, just ready for something new. Goodluck with it!
11-24-2008, 12:45 PM
Black Horse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@RRC

I dont think you should have been kicked off plain and simple.

I don't think Rob was kicked off, I think he posted up he was broke and taken off after that. If he wasn't really broke he should still be on the list, I would think.
11-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Horse

Post up the title with your name, proof of insurance and the time slips with witnesses to your run......same rules as everyone

LOL....I guess I'm the first to have to do this but I will.......I'll have my agent fax me my insurance proof.. But I wanna see everyone elses also:popcorn:
11-24-2008, 12:49 PM
YouGotJunk

Kelly Shotwell got on here running his mouth trying to say my car broke and it turned into a big argument and noone agreed with me. So after noone had my back I said FCK that list and to take me off if you guys felt the need. So instead you guys put me on the broken list, when my car was never broken. That was your alls bad decision, not mine!

Edit: None of this really even matters anymore since the car no longer belongs to me. If Metcalf wants to post up his times in the car since he is the owner, let him worry about it.
11-24-2008, 12:52 PM
91lxnos

Wow the guy in the #12 spot is the one that will be bumped if your ruled not broke" He hasn't said shit

"1. Silver Bullet 8.85@155.95
2. JIMSSVT 9.22@150.4
3. Jason408 9.36@143.57
4. MFOSS 9.60@139.9
5. kennebellecobra 9.641@139.81
6. Jeff88coupe 9.92@136
7. outlaw85 10.22@131
8. Chad393na 10.46@133.94
9. 95turbocharged 10.620@124.98
10. bbfstanger 10.766@124.44
11. bkstang95 10.782@131.59
12. MFIELD 10.890@134.29
11-24-2008, 12:53 PM
89notch

Quote:

Originally Posted by yougotjunk

Kelly dont know anything. Was he there to witness what happened to Terrys car? Did he crawl under it and check it out for him? I'm just going by what Terry posted on the board himself, saying the header tube was crushed.

Yes I was there and I did witness it. I did look at it after it happened. Any other questions?
11-24-2008, 12:54 PM
Metcalf Racing

not if Silverbullet is taken off
11-24-2008, 12:55 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89notch

Yes I was there and I did witness it. I did look at it after it happened. Any other questions?

I have a question...I does your head fit under his dash while he's making passes
11-24-2008, 12:57 PM
YouGotJunk

Yeah, since it's all your call. Did you witness his 8.80 @ 157mph pass because if not, it's invalid since your word is the only one that matters.
11-24-2008, 12:57 PM
91lxnos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metcalf Racing

not if Silverbullet is taken off

Your not going to take your ball and go home are you???:lol:
11-24-2008, 12:57 PM
mustangboy

Quote:

have a question...I does your head fit under his dash while he's making passes

His fits alot better than Robs fits under the dash when you make passes. Sorry guys I couldn't resist. Carry on.
11-24-2008, 12:58 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91lxnos

Your not going to take your ball and go home are you???:lol:

I take my balls and swing them
11-24-2008, 12:58 PM
black90lx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

I ran the car after that happened to the header tube.;)

so what did the car run after the smashed header? you have been asked a few times and you still haven't said.
11-24-2008, 12:59 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangboy

His fits alot better than Robs fits under the dash when you make passes. Sorry guys I couldn't resist. Carry on.

I figure if anyone knew how kellys head fits under his dash it would be you
11-24-2008, 01:02 PM
mustangboy

Quote:

I figure if anyone knew how kellys fits under his dash it would be you

Care to explain, Kelly and myself barely even know one another.
11-24-2008, 01:03 PM
Metcalf Racing

LOL....BABY @Kelly NoNuts
11-24-2008, 01:05 PM
YouGotJunk

Continueing from the other thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangboy

His fits alot better than Robs fits under the dash when you make passes. Sorry guys I couldn't resist. Carry on.

Dont get mad cause I built a car that actually get's raced, not just sits in the garage because i'm not allowed to race it. Maybe oneday you'll be allowed to race again, if not, i'm sure Craig might strap into yours also. Then again, he might not be interested in slowing down!! :lol:
11-24-2008, 01:05 PM
Metcalf Racing

Post up my 9 sec pass
11-24-2008, 01:12 PM
k062693w

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91lxnos

Wow, would this mean that changing jets, pulley size, boost levels would be changing combos? How about if you get a flat driving home from the track? What if you change exhaust from say bullets to flowmasters? What if you blow off your filter and meter on the track during a pass?ect............ Combo changes, "broke parts" and general maint. this is getting crazy! This is sounding like the NMRA changing rules as they go to fit the "Big Dawgs" in any given class. I thought this was about getting some kick ass cars to the track to run some Kick Ass times. Now making the dozen has become a challenge through the years, and it's proven you are going to have to spend alot of cash and seat time to make the dozen in the future. However I do remember having to show insurance card, title in my name, and so on at the DD shootouts in the past. But that hasn't happend as of late. Maybe Moderators could show up at the track and be able to make the call if someone is "broken" or "not"? This years DD is in the books and it is killer!!! Some nice rides with alot of hard work, time, and tuning to get there. It boils down to someone has to be there to make the call and that is final. Like them or not thats what they do. Kelly is a stand up guy and if he made the call then it has to stand. Silverbullet is the man this year and congrats to him. If people don't like the results then build a mid 8sec car and gun for him next year. I know I will be!!!!!! just my rant for the day!

:bigthumb DAMN Doug Good Post!!!! :bigthumb

I take back half of the things I've said about you... :lol:

You're still my BITCH :flipoff:
11-24-2008, 01:14 PM
Metcalf Racing

but yes changing any of those is changing your combo
11-24-2008, 01:14 PM
RyanR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

Jim, you never told anyone before you backed it up, so should you be off permenatly?;) As for being at the track on a better day... yesterday was the only day we had.... and I work third shift the day before.... and mandatory ot, so I couldn't have made it. Sorry to disappoint you. Good luck on your car.... as I think you will need it, you had all year for seat time... next year I will have the opportunities you had, and I think this year is about as close as you will ever be to my rear bumper.:popcorn:

I hope your 15k dollar BES motor will out run a stock bore, small turbo, under the shade tree built mod motor. It should be.
11-24-2008, 01:15 PM
mustangboy

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Dont get mad cause I built a car that actually get's raced, not just sits in the garage because i'm not allowed to race it. Maybe oneday you'll be allowed to race again,

Hell Rob I'm not mad, I don't have any dog in this fight. If you still own your car you should be on the list, if you don't good luck with the next ride. You are right about my car being in the garage, I believe it will be running again very soon and who knows maybe I'll even be able to get a few passes next year but I'm sure it still won't be fast enough for the dozen.
11-24-2008, 01:21 PM
Metcalf Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91lxnos

I think the running of the Dozen would have cleared up alot of this if it were followed thru with. This is getting bigger then I think Vinny ever thought it would. just some suggestions:

1. Two dates at the end of the season to run the DD
2. Set the dates early in the season so arangements can be made to attend in late October. ie (work scheduels, children ect....)
3. If you don't make one of the two events you will not make the list.
4. Moderators at both DD shootouts to "make the call" on broke or not
5. keep the list thru the year for say top 20 cars to qualify to run for the DD at the shootout
6. all times are thrown out. times are just used to qualify your car for the DD shootout times you run at the shootout are times that place you on the final DD list.
7. Make all cars run three BACK to BACK passes to prove street worthyness
8. Must run the DD with DR tires..This is a street car shootout
9. Car must be owned and registered to driver and proof of insurance.
You have all season to get a car out to the track to qualify for the shootout then run for the top spot.
Just some suggestions
maybe we need a rules board (NOT JUST MODERATORS) to define the rules

who would ever thought a sticker could cause so much shit!!!

Why not make them be driven in????
11-24-2008, 01:29 PM
beefcake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metcalf Racing

Why not make them be driven in????

think we tried that and then some complained about "in case" of's with breakage and stuff
11-24-2008, 01:36 PM
k062693w

Just my $.02 .......But instead of more rules, Wouldn't it just be easier to make everyone post a slip along with names of people on the board that witnessed, a video of you racing the car ( not necessarily your fastest pass), And proof of ownership..
And not make rules as far as a street car... Because in my opinion 99.9% of the cars (when they do run at the track) are not STREET CARS !!!!! If you own a tube chassis 6 sec Mustang/Capri then you should be eligible.. Or if you have a 10 sec car and decide to put a 1000 shot fogger on it and go 7's and explode the motor, Then your time should still count. Or maybe have an Ohio ODOT inspector at the track to do inspections and determine who's car is actually STREET LEGAL..

Again Just my $.02
I will probably never make the list, But i don't think that should limit the people that instead of investing $1000-????? to go fast in a street car is any different then the guy who does the same to build an all out race car...
11-24-2008, 02:22 PM
Silver Bullet

Quote:

Originally Posted by black90lx

so what did the car run after the smashed header? you have been asked a few times and you still haven't said.

Does it matter? It ran and I let out of it at the 1/8.:coo1:

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