official "dirty dozen" discussion thread

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Its not fair to all the guys who support this site and show up to events...
Scott has a very streetable, good looking Stang, but if he cant make the effort to show up to at least one Stangbangerz event or contribute something useful to the site, then why should he be on the list?

Everyone else on the list has been to The Spring and Fall Crusie ins and/or running of the ponys. Hell a couple have made ALL the events and are regular posters in here.

Either way...:popcorn:

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B O O H O O

You should talk MR. I cant park with the rest of the event.:lol:

what Craig did at a non Stangbangerz function has no bearing on what the RULES clearly state for the DD

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Originally Posted by Ackbar00

Both me and Scott have been to several of the Great American Crusies. Guess that dont count eh?:rolleyes:

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Not a SBZ event just like the post before that is something for everyone NKYFBA has the most involvement from what I can tell , I am not trying to argue, rules are rules , Hell Mike (93 Vert) cut his HONEYMOON short to come
and run a stellar 9.88 on the brakes so I think if someone does something like that , what are you supposed to say ????

Ive got a great idea. Go ahead and delete my name off your Cincy only list. I really don't care. I have attempted to get to know some of you guys at Tri State, Edgewater, Kil Kare or the Great American Cruise. A few of the people I've met were nice guys, but mostly I felt like I was crashing someones private party. I think you guys should do whatever it takes to make sure that a Dayton based Mustang is not on your list. It must really burn people up that I'm the third fastest car and I'm from Dayton. My car wasn't running at the beginning of the year thanks to DHL loosing my cylinder heads for three months. I had every intention of showing up to the Dirty Dozen meet, but my two year old son had the flu. I guess I should have left his sick ass in the crib and got down there to defend my spot. You guys are unbelieveable. Its things like this that make me realize that I don't want to be associated with people like that. I doesnt't make my car any faster or slower to be on your list, so do whatever you want. Why don't you go ahead and delete my account while your at it. That way you'll have one less Dayton guy on your list.

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Originally Posted by ibstrokin

Right now I'm #13,so removing Scott puts me back on the dozen.But I want to earn my way on the dozen.Scott has a very clean,fast, STREET car.He doesnt post much,but he does post.And technically,he has'nt broken any rules. You get on the dozen at the dragstrip, not your keyboard!

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Thanks for the support Brian.

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Originally Posted by beefcake

well, i did a search, i found 9 threads that he has posted in this year

that to me doesn't constitute much participation

i would say no

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I guess the person with the most posts should be number one on the list.

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Originally Posted by beefcake

well, i did a search, i found 9 threads that he has posted in this year

that to me doesn't constitute much participation

i would say no

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He just posted two more times. Does that make you feel better?

I got it! Rule Changes!

1. You must post more than 11 times this year. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

2. You must post something that contributes to the harmony and well being of the Mustang on this website. No useless posting will be tolerated from SBDD hopefuls. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

3. If you are from Dayton, you MUST make your passes at either Tri-State or Edgewater and they must be verified from at least 3 other SBDD members. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

4. You must attend a minimum of TWO sanctioned Stangbangerz events. Joint events such as the GAC, do not count. Failure to do so, and you will be removed from the list.


How is that? Does that make it better?
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GTTurbo88

I guess the person with the most posts should be number one on the list.

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not at all

i'm not even on the list, just giving my opinion, did not know where you were from

but, in my opinion, 7 posts in an entire year, 1 of which was a classified

so 6 posts of contribution, 1 every 8 weeks, and only 2 of them in the last 6 months, just doesn't seem like much of a participating member

thats my opinion, doesn't mean it's right, but i'm allowed to have it

i do find it funny that you already increased your post count by 50% for the year, just because of this :popcorn:

I'll leave it to Vinnie. Its his deal anyway.

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Originally Posted by Ackbar00

I got it! Rule Changes!

1. You must post more than 11 times this year. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

2. You must post something that contributes to the harmony and well being of the Mustang on this website. No useless posting will be tolerated from SBDD hopefuls. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

3. If you are from Dayton, you MUST make your passes at either Tri-State or Edgewater and they must be verified from at least 3 other SBDD members. If you don’t, you are removed from the list

4. You must attend a minimum of TWO sanctioned Stangbangerz events. Joint events such as the GAC, do not count. Failure to do so, and you will be removed from the list.


How is that? Does that make it better?
:rolleyes:

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Sounds pretty much how it is now

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Originally Posted by vinny5oh

does GTTurbo88 make the list or not? He didn't show yesterday. He hasn't been to any of our events. He's rarely ever on this site. Those are the complaints I heard. It doesn't matter to me so I'm leaving it to you all for a decision.

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I say he should stay, Scott did run his 9.60 this year and his car currenty runs. I feel to exclude him and make him an outcast just because he doesn't post, and he didn't show up to the race is wrong. We all have lives outside of message boards.

But it all honestly Scott doesn't need a person to tell him his car is fast.

All this has done was open an ugly can of worms that will only end up with many posts, no results, and in the whipping room.

My 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

I say he should stay, Scott did run his 9.60 this year and his car currenty runs. I feel to exclude him and make him an outcast just because he doesn't post, and he didn't show up to the race is wrong. We all have lives outside of message boards.

But it all honestly Scott doesn't need a person to tell him his car is fast.

All this has done was open an ugly can of worms that will only end up with many posts, no results, and in the whipping room.

My 2 cents.

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Well put Mike

i had a great time hanging with everyone and running some good numbers !next there a alot of very fast street cars on this board and we should do this more ofter to get the people that dont get to hang out other times because everyone is busy . that was the point of sat race to let the people who can not come to a cruz or a running of the bulls or some other event to come and show there cars off and to prove you can run the numbers you say you can run . when you go to the track every week the guy teching your car .after 30 times starts taking your word for it . and this board is the same. if you show up at a cruz or a runnig of the bulls .no one will ask is that a street car or is that guy a active member not just here for a list . i have seen gt88 car at kil kar and it is a fast street car and he seems to be a nice guy. but if you would have showed at the cruz or the runnig of the bulls or the race sat this would not be a problem .

All I can say is all hail king Cracker:rockon: awesome run Craig!!! and congrats to all that made the DD. I was planning on coming but had to pull an engine on the wifes Jeep :mad: Hopefully I will get my shit together for next year and give you guys a run.

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

I say he should stay, Scott did run his 9.60 this year and his car currenty runs. I feel to exclude him and make him an outcast just because he doesn't post, and he didn't show up to the race is wrong. We all have lives outside of message boards.

But it all honestly Scott doesn't need a person to tell him his car is fast.

All this has done was open an ugly can of worms that will only end up with many posts, no results, and in the whipping room.

My 2 cents.

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if hes made it to some events then fine, i don't know half the people on this list, i'm not personally involved in any way

however, as you said, if you don't post, and you don't come to any events, then what makes you a stangbanger?

i saw it posted that he hadn't been to any events, then looked at the contribution to the forums, that is where my opinion came from

again, if he's been to some of the events, then by all means, keep him on

It's not an "us" vs "them" thing so don't try to make it sound like we don't want any Dayton guys around. SBZ was created to pull the local Mustang community together. I'd rather not have people try to rip that apart. Which is why I am going ask Paul that he PLEASE not get on here just to stir up trouble. Sounds like Ackbar is getting a case of the "Metcalf" and if it continues, well there's only one cure for that and I'd rather not.

I think the biggest issue here is that Scott gets on here, posts up a time for the DD and then we never hear from him again. We don't see him on the site, we don't see him at the cruise-ins, we don't see him at any events. Not saying that Scott should make EVERY event but it's hard to have somebody on the list that really doesn't support the site when there's others that call this place home, come out to events and have fun with everybody.

So after all that, all I'm saying is that we need to look back on the #1 rule for the Dirty Dozen......it's just for fun. No money. No trophies. No prizes. Just a name on a list. Shouldn't be this much trouble. :dunno:

It doesn't affect me if he stays or not but right now he stays. The track is only open for one more week. Keep him this year and if we need to make "requirements" then they should apply for next year, not be instituted a week before the end....sounds like something NMRA would do. :lol:

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Originally Posted by beefcake

however, as you said, if you don't post, and you don't come to any events, then what makes you a stangbanger?

i saw it posted that he hadn't been to any events, then looked at the contribution to the forums, that is where my opinion came from

again, if he's been to some of the events, then by all means, keep him on

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What makes him a Stangbanger is that he signed up just like you and me, as far as I know their is no secret initiation with blood to be considered a member.

Its just sucks that such a simple thing has to come to this.

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

....as far as I know their is no secret initiation with blood to be considered a member.

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Hey! I like that! There's a full moon out as well! Hell yeah! Full moon, midnight....the bloodletting will begin! :lol:

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Originally Posted by vinny5oh

Hey! I like that! There's a full moon out as well! Hell yeah! Full moon, midnight....the bloodletting will begin! :lol:

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Unhuh!!! There has to be fire and beer involved here somewhere!!

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

Its just sucks that such a simple thing has to come to this.

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so, signing up on a board makes you a member

i think there is more to it than that, there has to be

someone from CA might as well come on, post a slip and never come back til the end of the year

if thats the criteria, there probably wouldn't be one local car on the list!

again, it is all for fun, and everyone should get along, but, the guy hasn't been heard out of for bascially the whole year and now that the "dozen" is threatened he has plenty of time to post,

and i know we all have lives, i work 70 hours a week, and have 4 kids at home, plus trying to find time for everything in between,

but, i try to make an effort to do some things, spring and fall cruise, ( 2 of the biggest events of the year), a couple of the beechmont hang outs, something, i'd love to do more, but my lifestyle doesn't dictate that, but there should be some participation

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Originally Posted by beefcake

so, signing up on a board makes you a member

i think there is more to it than that, there has to be

someone from CA might as well come on, post a slip and never come back til the end of the year

if thats the criteria, there probably wouldn't be one local car on the list!

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that is everyones point , what he needs to understand is no one is singling him out it is just the fact he only posts his times, and is not involved like most other DD

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Originally Posted by BUHBYY

that is everyones point , what he needs to understand is no one is singling him out it is just the fact he only posts his times, and is not involved like most other DD

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i agree, i don't dislike him, don't know him, sure he is a stand up guy, i don't know a few on the list, i just saw the question posed, search for what facts could be found and that is where my personal conclusion was drawn,

not because i want to get someone else on the list,

i just noticed acbar and gt were related, now, if it was ackbar, i'd be like yeah, he's on, i wouldn't even had to search for posts because i see em

I think that he should stay on the list. I dont know alot of people on the list so what is the difference. Scott mostly races his car at kilkare and that is his home track. Just because he is not at tristate or edgewater doesnt make any difference. He is a local guy whos car is very fast and very streetable. I could see if he was from a state 500 miles away or something. It cant be changed now just because people dont know who he is. Kevin

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Hey! I like that! There's a full moon out as well! Hell yeah! Full moon, midnight....the bloodletting will begin!
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Originally Posted by vinny5oh
Unhuh!!! There has to be fire and beer involved here somewhere!!

I agree with Pops

Back to the topic at hand

I hope when I make the DD (waiting on Santa, probably a long time), there is not so much hell raised.

"Participation (joining), joining with others in activities. " as writen in Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now lets tap that keg.

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Originally Posted by flyin2jz1

I think that he should stay on the list. I dont know alot of people on the list so what is the difference. Scott mostly races his car at kilkare and that is his home track. Just because he is not at tristate or edgewater doesnt make any difference. He is a local guy whos car is very fast and very streetable. I could see if he was from a state 500 miles away or something. It cant be changed now just because people dont know who he is. Kevin

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i don't think the track is the issue, nor is him being known by everyone

i don't know everyone on the list, but some i know and some i know well

how do you get to know the people, hanging out, even if thats hangin out here

i talked to several people at the cruise in this year i hadn't met before, but knew from being on here

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Originally Posted by beefcake

i don't think the track is the issue, nor is him being known by everyone

i don't know everyone on the list, but some i know and some i know well

how do you get to know the people, hanging out, even if thats hangin out here

i talked to several people at the cruise in this year i hadn't met before, but knew from being on here

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i get that alot i'll be in a deep conversation with someone and in the back of my mind i'm thinking who the fuck is this and how do you know what i look like to know me from my screen name:lol:

I say to be on the list your car had to be there Sat. Like Vinny said its for fun, no money and no trophies so stop crying and take it like a man cause there is always next year! But next year it may all be 9sec cars for the dozen so yo all better get to work!! Just my .02:flipoff: :lol:

just go to the effin DD post, rule #6 states it all !!!!!! must be an active participant in SBZ if they want to be on the list I think that sums it up :coo1:

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Originally Posted by orangedemon331

I say to be on the list your car had to be there Sat. Like Vinny said its for fun, no money and no trophies so stop crying and take it like a man cause there is always next year! But next year it may all be 9sec cars for the dozen so yo all better get to work!! Just my .02:flipoff: :lol:

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i don't agree with that
if i was on the list, there would have been no chance of me makin it sat because i work every sat, plain and simple

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Originally Posted by BUHBYY

just go to the effin DD post, rule #6 states it all !!!!!! must be an active participant in SBZ if they want to be on the list I think that sums it up :coo1:

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i agree with that

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Originally Posted by ibstrokin

Right now I'm #13,so removing Scott puts me back on the dozen.But I want to earn my way on the dozen.

Scott has a very clean,fast, STREET car.

He doesnt post much,but he does post.And technically,he has'nt broken any rules.

You get on the dozen at the dragstrip, not your keyboard!

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So if someone other than Scott breaks, you dont want to be moved up?
Yes he does have a clean,fast, STREET car. Thats not the issue.
Check out rule #6
You're right:bigthumb

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Originally Posted by GTTurbo88

Ive got a great idea. Go ahead and delete my name off your Cincy only list. I really don't care. I have attempted to get to know some of you guys at Tri State, Edgewater, Kil Kare or the Great American Cruise. A few of the people I've met were nice guys, but mostly I felt like I was crashing someones private party. I think you guys should do whatever it takes to make sure that a Dayton based Mustang is not on your list. It must really burn people up that I'm the third fastest car and I'm from Dayton. My car wasn't running at the beginning of the year thanks to DHL loosing my cylinder heads for three months. I had every intention of showing up to the Dirty Dozen meet, but my two year old son had the flu. I guess I should have left his sick ass in the crib and got down there to defend my spot. You guys are unbelieveable. Its things like this that make me realize that I don't want to be associated with people like that. I doesnt't make my car any faster or slower to be on your list, so do whatever you want. Why don't you go ahead and delete my account while your at it. That way you'll have one less Dayton guy on your list.

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For someone that "really dont care" you are making a big deal about it.

There were plenty of Dayton guys running there on Saturday.

Sorry to hear about your son, that really does suck that he got the flu:(

We really dont have to delete your account, you dont post except when you feel threatened about being in the Dozen. Or when you dont do your homework and feel you got screwed by a fellow member.

You know how to hit the "sign out" at the bottom of the homepage.

Its a shame you dont bring your stang out to any of the SBZ events. It IS a very cool, clean stang and Im sure everyone would like to see it.

Good Luck with what ever you decide to do:bigthumb

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

I say he should stay, Scott did run his 9.60 this year and his car currenty runs. I feel to exclude him and make him an outcast just because he doesn't post, and he didn't show up to the race is wrong. We all have lives outside of message boards.

But it all honestly Scott doesn't need a person to tell him his car is fast.

All this has done was open an ugly can of worms that will only end up with many posts, no results, and in the whipping room.

My 2 cents.

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He doesnt post, he doesnt show up to any SBZ events, he doesnt support SBZ....

You are correct.

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Originally Posted by beefcake

if hes made it to some events then fine, i don't know half the people on this list, i'm not personally involved in any way

however, as you said, if you don't post, and you don't come to any events, then what makes you a stangbanger?

i saw it posted that he hadn't been to any events, then looked at the contribution to the forums, that is where my opinion came from

again, if he's been to some of the events, then by all means, keep him on

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Exactly.

I am trying to understand this whole thing, not try and piss anyone off.


SBZ 12 fastest street cars
updated 11-05-06

1. Maximus - 9.16@154
2. Timido - 9.43@141
3. GTTurbo88 - 9.60@139
4. JASON408 - 9.62@140
5. 93vert - 10.11@135
6. kennebellcobra - 10.19@134
7. platedturbonotch - 10.26@126
8. 93Cobra - 10.47@132.56
9. 93 notch - 10.68@137
10. fastfreddie - 10.78@125
11. JIMSSVT - 10.79@125.8
12. chad393na - 10.82@122

Here is the llist as of 11/5, now on that list I don't see Beefcake anywhere. Now I don't understand why you are so angry are you the spokes person for the rest of the people? So it caught me why should you care your not on the list.

The people who should care should be
4. JASON408 - 9.62@140
5. 93vert - 10.11@135
6. kennebellcobra - 10.19@134
7. platedturbonotch - 10.26@126
8. 93Cobra - 10.47@132.56
9. 93 notch - 10.68@137
10. fastfreddie - 10.78@125
11. JIMSSVT - 10.79@125.8
12. chad393na - 10.82@122

And as of this list I only see two that have posted that were slower than Scott..

Just a thought

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Originally Posted by vinny5oh

I think the biggest issue here is that Scott gets on here, posts up a time for the DD and then we never hear from him again. We don't see him on the site, we don't see him at the cruise-ins, we don't see him at any events. Not saying that Scott should make EVERY event but it's hard to have somebody on the list that really doesn't support the site when there's others that call this place home, come out to events and have fun with everybody.

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:bigthumb

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

I am trying to understand this whole thing, not try and piss anyone off.


SBZ 12 fastest street cars
updated 11-05-06

1. Maximus - 9.16@154
2. Timido - 9.43@141
3. GTTurbo88 - 9.60@139
4. JASON408 - 9.62@140
5. 93vert - 10.11@135
6. kennebellcobra - 10.19@134
7. platedturbonotch - 10.26@126
8. 93Cobra - 10.47@132.56
9. 93 notch - 10.68@137
10. fastfreddie - 10.78@125
11. JIMSSVT - 10.79@125.8
12. chad393na - 10.82@122

Here is the llist as of 11/5, now on that list I don't see Beefcake anywhere. Now I don't understand why you are so angry are you the spokes person for the rest of the people? So it caught me why should you care your not on the list.

The people who should care should be
4. JASON408 - 9.62@140
5. 93vert - 10.11@135
6. kennebellcobra - 10.19@134
7. platedturbonotch - 10.26@126
8. 93Cobra - 10.47@132.56
9. 93 notch - 10.68@137
10. fastfreddie - 10.78@125
11. JIMSSVT - 10.79@125.8
12. chad393na - 10.82@122

And as of this list I only see two that have posted that were slower than Scott..

Just a thought

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well, i already said i am not on the list, maybe you missed where i said i was trying to get a 12 before the blower

however, i am a participating member of these forums, i am also a sponsoring vendor / moderator

a question was proposed, and i am giving my opinion, just as anyone can, i am not a "spokesperson for the people" i am simply giving my opinion just as you can

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Originally Posted by Badfbdy

I am trying to understand this whole thing, not try and piss anyone off.

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This is a discussion, hopefully No-one is getting pissed off.