Then, James and I stubbed the plumbing in before the final pour Friday. He used Sonny's backhoe and dug a nearly 42" deep hole, and we stubbed out the first floor toilet in 4", then the drain off that in 3", then a fresh water conduit in 3" pvc as well. got it all in, fairly straight and back filled it. Took about 2.5 hours. I can't thank these guys enough. They've done a fantastic job so far.