Visual estimates OK for speeding tickets

[k062693w]

I agree again, but whining on a car site does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to change it !!!

[facemelter71]

Does TO.



LOL.

[k062693w]

Does TO.



LOL.

DOES NOT !!!

[Dirtyd0g]

The jury is in, And they say it's you WHINING !!!

I don't feel the need to go back and quote most of your posts in this thread that clearly show whining !!! Now be a big boy and admit you were wrong !!!

Wrong about what that all cops are not good people, that having camera is the only proof. That you are ignorant to this? The facts are ALL COPS ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE KIDS WHO GOT PICKED ON IN SCHOOL AND HATE THE WORLD. I expect to be treated as innocent until proven guilty, you may accept it that if a cop says it it must be true however the only man I take his word to be undisputable is Jesus.
I admit you are wrong.
Alan

[k062693w]

Wrong about what that all cops are not good people, that having camera is the only proof. That you are ignorant to this? The facts are ALL COPS ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE KIDS WHO GOT PICKED ON IN SCHOOL AND HATE THE WORLD. I expect to be treated as innocent until proven guilty, you may accept it that if a cop says it it must be true however the only man I take his word to be undisputable is Jesus.
I admit you are wrong.
Alan

Show me where I said all cops were good ??? Go ahead look for it !!!
I said that there are good and bad people in ALL lines of work ... Big difference there ... Now who is the Ignorant one that apparently can't read ???

And since you have said it more then once, I'm going to say that YOU were one of those kids that got picked on and bullied in school !!!

Now don't you need to get back on those CBs ???

[cobrajoe]

Most problems are from rookies. They got picked on in high school then someone gave them a gun and a badge and they are going to get even.
Alan

Or they was bullies and want to continue!

And just a little FYI !!! The police have been using VISUAL Speed Detection for years !!! It's not hard to do, You take a fixed point and the time it takes to go through said fixed point !!! It's not rocket science people it's a simple math problem !!!

How do you think they check your speed from an airplane ??? Read above for the answer !!!

But they are not using fixed point timing.

[Dirtyd0g]

Show me where I said all cops were good ??? Go ahead look for it !!!
I said that there are good and bad people in ALL lines of work ... Big difference there ... Now who is the Ignorant one that apparently can't read ???

And since you have said it more then once, I'm going to say that YOU were one of those kids that got picked on and bullied in school !!!

Now don't you need to get back on those CBs ???

So we both said the same thing yet you continue to argue...what exactly are you arguing? You agree with the law, cops should have the utmost authority, Whats next you gonna say guns kill people too? Or just make stupid statements that make you look like a complete and total moron. Did you forget to take your meds today or something?
Alan

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I agree again, but whining on a car site does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to change it !!!

I don't recall seeing this up for a public vote

[facemelter71]

DOES NOT !!!

DOES TO


INFINITY.haha.
its the police

[k062693w]

So we both said the same thing yet you continue to argue...what exactly are you arguing?

LMFAO Pot meet Kettle !!!

Thank You for proving my "OPINION" of you from post #27 !!!

Oh I forgot that you have reading comprehension problems Here I'll refresh your memory !!!

Since you've felt the need to make an OPINION of me, Here's mine of you ... You must be one of those that does what you want without consideration of others, That you are ALWAYS right, And it's your way or the highway !!! I'm just saying ...

I left out the other parts to make it easier for you to understand, Or do I need to type slower so you can keep up ???

And BTW I take my "MEDS" like clockwork, But thanks for the concern !!!

[k062693w]

DOES TO


INFINITY.haha.
its the police

DAMN YOU !!! You went and pulled the infinity card on me !!!

[k062693w]

Sorry I have a Cub Scout leaders meeting to go to, But I'll be back later to play !!!

[Dirtyd0g]

I said you were ignorant to the subject, because my point was the only way to prove innocence now is havign a camera. You had to prove you were ignorant all around. It wasn't an opinion of you at that point. I'm done giving you what you want. Fortunately your opinion of me means absolutely nothing. You just want to argue and stir crap. This law is stupid, the same as seatbelt laws, helmet laws and abotu 100 other laws that are intended for no purpose but to control the masses. Maybe you like being told what to do. I prefer to think for myself.
Alan

[k062693w]

I said you were ignorant to the subject, because my point was the only way to prove innocence now is havign a camera. You had to prove you were ignorant all around. It wasn't an opinion of you at that point. I'm done giving you what you want. Fortunately your opinion of me means absolutely nothing. You just want to argue and stir crap. This law is stupid, the same as seatbelt laws, helmet laws and abotu 100 other laws that are intended for no purpose but to control the masses. Maybe you like being told what to do. I prefer to think for myself.
Alan

Right back at you buddy !!! You are too easy to mess with I'll leave you alone before you start crying again !!!

Again thanks for proving my "OPINION" and playing !!! LMAO

BTW No reply necessary !!! LOL

[02mingryGT]

Cars need black boxes. This would solve all these problems. You get pulled over and the cop says you where speeding...you open the menu on your nav system that shows your last recorded speed limit over the last 100 miles and show him that in fact you where going 2 under the limit.

Of course, if this technology was ever created, the gov' would surely shoot it down.

OTR truckers already have these.

[Dirtyd0g]

Right back at you buddy !!! You are too easy to mess with I'll leave you alone before you start crying again !!!

Again thanks for proving my "OPINION" and playing !!! LMAO

BTW No reply necessary !!! LOL

It is ok you have convinced us you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Good job on making it personal. This is why politics are trouble.
I think it is sad that we need navigational systems or cameras to prove we are innocent in a society that claims innocent until proven guilty. You won't catch me crying about anything that happens on the internet, the only thing I care that much about is my family and close friends.
Alan

[k062693w]

It is ok you have convinced us you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Good job on making it personal. This is why politics are trouble.
I think it is sad that we need navigational systems or cameras to prove we are innocent in a society that claims innocent until proven guilty. You won't catch me crying about anything that happens on the internet, the only thing I care that much about is my family and close friends.
Alan

It's even better that you have proved that you have even less of a clue as I do !!!

Again NO MORE REPLYS NEEDED TO PROVE MY POINT !!!

Or do you just have to have the last word to "TRY" and act like you have a clue ???

[Mista Bone]

What was your point????

[JET50213]

This thread is hilarious!!!!
Just FYI, so you guys can relax a little bit. There is a lot more to it than "he appeared to be speeding." Any defense attorney who has half a brain (or private citizen for that matter) can argue a speeding ticket and win if the officer does not truly know what he/she is doing. I, for one, cannot estimate speed without the use of speed measuring devices. Therefore, I don't do it. There was a time in my career, many years ago, when I was really good with the radar and could estimate speed by the tone given. After spending several years doing desk work, I can no longer claim that experience at trial. Therefore, I rely solely on the technology of speed measuring devices. Most State Troopers are highly trained in speed measurement and they have a plethora of methods to use. I think most still rely on speed measuring devices when monitoring traffic.
My advice is this:
If an officer stops you and indicates that he used personal estimation void of any speed measuring device to ascertain that you were speeding, POLITELY engage him in conversation about how exactly one does that. He may or may not choose to explain it to you. You should, however, get a pretty good idea from his response alone whether or not he is full of crap! Personally, I doubt that many of you will ever have this happen.

On a side note, I post this only to offer a little perspective. I will not engage in debate over sily ideas or the hatred for law enforcement. As Aaron has so aptly stated, there are good and bad in all things. I have personally witnessed what I considered to be deplorable behavior by police. Those officers, however, are in the minority.

[mustang8998]

Cars need black boxes. This would solve all these problems. You get pulled over and the cop says you where speeding...you open the menu on your nav system that shows your last recorded speed limit over the last 100 miles and show him that in fact you where going 2 under the limit.

Of course, if this technology was ever created, the gov' would surely shoot it down.

WOW, I want to hear how loud you all cry, about that idea!