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    “The board members of the Professional Racers Owners Organization (PRO) wholeheartedly and unanimously support this decision,” said its president Kenny Bernstein. “We want to thank NHRA for listening to our input and suggestions to incorporate these changes. It is not lost on any of us that this constitutes a change in our history of running a quarter-mile, but it's the most immediate adjustment we can make in the interest of safety which is foremost on everyone's mind. This may be a temporary change and we recognize it is not the total answer. We will continue to work hand in hand with NHRA to evaluate other methods of making Top Fuel and Funny Car competition safer so that we might return to our quarter-mile racing standard. We also want to thank Connie Kalitta for his invaluable input. He has been a rock through these difficult times.”
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    To me its a strange reaction to what happened, unless they found that the brakes were engaged on that car which it didnt look like to me. I doubt 320 extra feet would have changed the outcome of that crash. Tuners job is to push the car to its limit on useable horsepower, the engine explosions will continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92BlackStang View Post
    well stupid, for one the person tunin the cars can detune them dont ya think. why run something all out and blow up, when you can slow them down and still have good racing..
    No shit. Stupid I never said they could not detune the cars. What I said was whos going to control it. You have one guy detune his and the other guy not whats going to happen retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIXXX93GT View Post
    To me its a strange reaction to what happened, unless they found that the brakes were engaged on that car which it didnt look like to me. I doubt 320 extra feet would have changed the outcome of that crash. Tuners job is to push the car to its limit on useable horsepower, the engine explosions will continue.
    Connie is saying the brakes were engaged there were front tire skid marks all the way at the end and alan reinhart said he was driving it until impact
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostforever View Post
    they detune nascars,why not top fuel cars.same idea there guy.
    Dude I been watching nascar a long time. I didnt know they detuned there engines. Those guys look for horsepower however they can get. I will agree that they have to put a tune on it that will make it last all weekend, but they push those engines has much has they can. With nhra those guys rebuild after ever race so they just tune to get about 4.5 seconds of full throtle out of it. They dont care if it blows up. Now if nhra started limiting motors like one motor a weekend or one for qualifing and one for racing then I belive you would see a big change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timido View Post
    Raising the weight on these cars is dangerous also. Higher weight =more and higher forces durring a wreck. People will go fast with anything.
    True, I didn't think about that. I guess the other downfall would be more inertia which is harder to stop. Maybe the only really safe solution would be to limit engine size.

    Guys, all this talk about detuning the cars is lacking one thing. You have to have someone policing it. These guys are out there to go as fast as possible, push their cars to the limits, win races and make money. Go tell all the crew chiefs to detune the cars...see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nskaats View Post
    True, I didn't think about that. I guess the other downfall would be more inertia which is harder to stop. Maybe the only really safe solution would be to limit engine size.

    Guys, all this talk about detuning the cars is lacking one thing. You have to have someone policing it. These guys are out there to go as fast as possible, push their cars to the limits, win races and make money. Go tell all the crew chiefs to detune the cars...see what happens.
    Thats what I have been trying to tell them. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by barkey View Post
    Connie is saying the brakes were engaged there were front tire skid marks all the way at the end and alan reinhart said he was driving it until impact
    Didnt know that, is the shut down area that short at Englishtown?

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    Engine was still running on it's own engine oil which gets nitro mixed in during the run. No wayto stop a runaway like that.

    Drove right thru the brakes......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1byafender View Post
    Dude I been watching nascar a long time. I didnt know they detuned there engines. Those guys look for horsepower however they can get.
    x2 Restrictor plates. Nascar drivers also have to drive for fuel efficiency as well. Need to make it to the end.

    It's going to be weird......Instead of folks asking ...."Hey, what's it do in the quarter ?" It'll be......"Hey, what's it do in the 1000 ?"

    BTW, how much fuel will be saved shaving off 320 feet ?
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    not the fuel that will be saved, but the parts that are damaged from banging on the limiter for 300 feet.

    Crowds would never know the differnce!

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    In IMO..all is needed is MORE room at he end and better ways of controlling an out-of-controll car...deeper longer,wider sand pit,,,safety netting that reacts like a rubber band so to speak after the sand pit...hell even those foam blocks to slow the car if it makes it through the sand and netting ....remote ignition cut offs...soon as the car traps the stripe... kills the engine(for a WOT scenio)... and belive it or not I've contacted NHRA on these very things back in 2001 ,,when My best friend at Edgewater was killed in a WOT deal and had no where to stop other than the trees at the end...keep it 1/4 and figure out how to stop these cars safely....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista Bone View Post
    not the fuel that will be saved, but the parts that are damaged from banging on the limiter for 300 feet.

    Crowds would never know the differnce!
    you don't think it'll be the same, they'll be trying to squeeze out whats left from 800 to 1000 now instead of 1100 to 1300
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    pretty much at traction's limit......

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    So they will start the record books from scratch.....
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    so with the shorter runs, less fuel will be used, so VP is hiking the price of Nitro AGAIN.

    http://www.competitionplus.com/index...=7052&Itemid=6

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    NHRA banned all testing earlier this year due to a lack of nitromethane. Apparently there is a worldwide shortage of the stuff. They will be lucky to have enough to finish the season, even without doing testing.
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    no shortage at all.

    Dow chemical won't sell to NHRA because NHRA doesn't have the needed safety standards.

    Vp is the only allowed nitro supplier, Don Shumacher has PLENTY of nitro but it's not from VP, therefore it's not allowed for use.

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    Wait until all the info comes out about DART suing B. Glidden and J. Hump about things said on the internet.

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