I know I am a newb to the tenth degree and have not yet participated much on the forum or been to any cruise ins, so my opinion should be mostly unbiased. Why not make the Dirty Dozen thread where times are listed only available to people with a certain post count? Kind of like the classifieds. You could set any amount of posts as a minimum and people could post their times and list members who witnessed the run throughout the season. At the end, all the moderators could figure out the top times and make one list. One post that tells the winners. Like you guys said, it is what it is. If someone is truly concerned about a sticker with their position, just get one that says "legend in own mind". This is not directed towards any one person, just the situation. Maybe a possible fix. The Dirty Dozen should not go away. Just my .2