2008 Dirty Dozen Discussion Thread

[YouGotJunk]

Yeah but just because something still runs doesn't mean it's not broke. I got kicked off because I was testing a 2step in my driveway I noticed a little bit of water seeping out between the head and block. The car still ran perfect and I'm sure I could've went out and made a few passes on it and noone would've ever known. Instead I went ahead and fixed it that way I didn't have to worry about it blowing all the way out and possibly causing me to wreck it or who knows what else. And I fixed it and it still went to the track that day and ran the same numbers as before. You said in the previous post it "crushed" the header tube, but now it's just a couple little dents and scuffed up a little? So which one is it?

[Silver Bullet]

Is the car truely "Broke"? In other words did the breakage keep it from making the pass and can it be run as it sits right now?

I consider broke, unable to drive. My vehicle, and I will be the first to say it, needs maintenance and checkups. I change a plugs, oil ... tear off the valve covers and adjust rockers, check headgaskets all to prevent problems.... If something lets go in my motor it cost a lot of $$$$ to fix, and lets just face it, non of us has money to blow now a days.

[YouGotJunk]

Trying to drive it like a normal street car with a crushed header tube would not be good. I'd say most people would agree that it would generate alot of heat and end up causing damage. I've seen cars run with blown headgaskets, broke trannys, and who knows what else, but just because they still run does that mean they're not broken? Mine never broke, it didnt blow the head gasket out, I changed it for the same reason you check yours, to prevent a problem later on.

[Silver Bullet]

Yeah but just because something still runs doesn't mean it's not broke. I got kicked off because I was testing a 2step in my driveway I noticed a little bit of water seeping out between the head and block. The car still ran perfect and I'm sure I could've went out and made a few passes on it and noone would've ever known. Instead I went ahead and fixed it that way I didn't have to worry about it blowing all the way out and possibly causing me to wreck it or who knows what else. And I fixed it and it still went to the track that day and ran the same numbers as before. You said in the previous post it "crushed" the header tube, but now it's just a couple little dents and scuffed up a little? So which one is it?

First of all I thought it was wrong to take you off the list for the headgasket, I told several people this. If you blew it.. your off. Checking it... well blower/turbo cars will seep to some extent.

I will do you one better
Here is a pic of the tube......

[YouGotJunk]

I'm not out to single you out at all Terry. I'm just simply stating that you said it was crushed, and if it was crushed then I wouldn't think the car should/would have been able to be raced and drove like a street car like the DD rules require. If you raced the car a couple times after this accident and it was still able to run and backup your number than so be it. You have to look at it from everyone elses perspective also. If you would've read and thought someone's car was broke and they were just trying to stay on the list, you'd probably question it also. I just know that some people are quick to jump on some members if they find anything at all about their car possibly being messed up, but then willing to look past another members problems just because they're better buddies or whatever. Hopefully you understand.

[YouGotJunk]

He made 2 passes at the track with it broken. It crushed the header on the first pass and he kept making passes so was it broke not really does it eventually need to be fixed yes.

So uh, which one ya going with cheif? Broken...not really broke...but yes it needs fixed??

[89notch]

So uh, which one ya going with cheif? Broken...not really broke...but yes it needs fixed??

Not broken.

[Silver Bullet]

I'm not out to single you out at all Terry. I'm just simply stating that you said it was crushed, and if it was crushed then I wouldn't think the car should/would have been able to be raced and drove like a street car like the DD rules require. If you raced the car a couple times after this accident and it was still able to run and backup your number than so be it. You have to look at it from everyone elses perspective also. If you would've read and thought someone's car was broke and they were just trying to stay on the list, you'd probably question it also. I just know that some people are quick to jump on some members if they find anything at all about their car possibly being messed up, but then willing to look past another members problems just because they're better buddies or whatever. Hopefully you understand.

Well you did single me out..... and one other thing..... my passenger side quarter panel has been smashed in, Is my car broke?

[YouGotJunk]

Not broken.

About what I figured you'd say. Does it taste any different since he is #1 on the list, or is about the same as all the others? LoL

[YouGotJunk]

Well you did single me out..... and one other thing..... my passenger side quarter panel has been smashed in, Is my car broke?

Are you trying to say your car has a salvage title now? I mean if it's been knocked in so far that it's rubbing the tire or knocked the rearend out of alignment that could be very dangerous. I'm not so sure you should race it like that, it needs inspected to make sure it's ok.

[KenB]

Well, if it ran down the track after the smash, what did it run and why did you stop running it?

Ken

[Silver Bullet]

Well, if it ran down the track after the smash, what did it run and why did you stop running it?

Ken

Read one of the before mentioned post.... maybe you can figure it out....

[KenB]

Read one of the before mentioned post.... maybe you can figure it out....

Not really looking to 'figure it out' that's why I asked. I don't see anything in this thread that answers my question. If you don't want to answer it, that's fine.

[Silver Bullet]

Not really looking to 'figure it out' that's why I asked. I don't see anything in this thread that answers my question. If you don't want to answer it, that's fine.

Exhaust leak, it sounded like shit.

[Metcalf Racing]

I think it's cool that your car is as fast as it is now but everyone else is off the list for just about any wrench turned. Truth is Kelly Shotwell is just two faced real bad. Picking and choosing who's car is "broke" Or not is a joke. We where going to keep right on racing Robs car the way it was but instead we changed the head gasket and still made our passes that day. Kelly cried and said it needed taken off. Same rules should apply

[Maximus]

Yeah but just because something still runs doesn't mean it's not broke. I got kicked off because I was testing a 2step in my driveway I noticed a little bit of water seeping out between the head and block. The car still ran perfect and I'm sure I could've went out and made a few passes on it and noone would've ever known. Instead I went ahead and fixed it that way I didn't have to worry about it blowing all the way out and possibly causing me to wreck it or who knows what else. And I fixed it and it still went to the track that day and ran the same numbers as before.
You said in the previous post it "crushed" the header tube, but now it's just a couple little dents and scuffed up a little? So which one is it?

If this is the case then you should still be on the list....or did someone else drive it?

[Metcalf Racing]

nothing on the car was changed to change the out come of HP Or torque so of corse the car runs the same as always

[Silver Bullet]

If this is the case then you should still be on the list....or did someone else drive it?

Agreed....

[Metcalf Racing]

Here lets do one better I just bought Robs car post up my 9.94 @ 139.6

[YouGotJunk]

Well I hate to see it go, but as everyone knows, here lately i've just lost interest in it. Anyone know where any LS1 cars are forsale? Cash in hand...