The 2013 Dirty Dozen Discussion Thread

[beefcake]

Seems like somethings get overlooked but if someone won it that you didnt want to win I bet you all would find a reason why that guy couldnt be #1..just seems like thats how things go around here..jeff deserved it by all means his cars badass I'm just saying thats how it works around here.

thats what i mean about negativity, complaining about stuff that didn't happen

i didn't complain in the # 2 position about his car not having mufflers, to be honest, i don't know if it did or not, but jeff's a buddy, and i really didn't care

so, jeff still got the spot,

yet we're complaining like someone got cheated

technically, if the car doesn't have mufflers, it should not be on the list, that's not my rules, that's vin's rules

so, that's not how it works around here

jeff still got the spot,

[Black Horse]

Unfortunately , in our modern society, truth is in the eye of the beholder .

[Black Horse]

Rules say "Muffler of some sort" (just not turbo)....soup can full of steel wool sounds like "some sort"

[SN95N/A]

Sorry for the interruption carry on guys lol

[Walter]

[evil8]

These rules suck!

[dsmawd350]

Nothing else on this site is how Vinny wanted it...time for a rule change! Where's FOSS?

[Whyucryn]

Sometimes rules have to change due to new and improved technology and finding better ways of doing things. Just like the forward facing headers. That's a new trend. So rules from 8-10 years ago are gonna need revised eventually

[Blowpastyou]

Im not putting a muffler on my car. It already had a 118mm clipped muffler. Might as well take my time down

[beefcake]

Sometimes rules have to change due to new and improved technology and finding better ways of doing things. Just like the forward facing headers. That's a new trend. So rules from 8-10 years ago are gonna need revised eventually

yes, but the idea was based off of true street,

technology changes, mufflers for a street car hasn't

NMRA True Street
POWER ADDERS & POWERTRAIN
Any Ford-based engine, and any number and/or type of power adders are permitted. Any manual or automatic transmission is permitted. Any rear end is permitted. Exhaust system with mufflers is required.

True street rules are pretty simple

DOT's,
No Back Halved cars
Any power adder(s)
Run it through mufflers

[evil8]

These rules suck!

[beefcake]

Im not putting a muffler on my car. It already had a 118mm clipped muffler. Might as well take my time down

These rules suck!

lol,

and so it begins......

[Blowpastyou]

A shit I dont give either way.... So you wont see me complaining. I do agree it is dumb that turbo cars have to have a muffler. But it REALLY doesnt bother me either way.

[beefcake]

A shit I dont give either way.... So you wont see me complaining. I do agree it is dumb that turbo cars have to have a muffler. But it REALLY doesnt bother me either way.

I know all the new turbo cars we sell here at ford have mufflers on them

vinny's rules, and i believe vinny car was a turbo car.....

the thing is, just like class racing, if you want to be in a "class" that has rules, you build the car around the rules

the DD has rules, if you want to be on it, pretty simple, build something that fit's the rules, the rules have been the same for 10 years, not like it's rocket science to put a combo together that fits them

[k062693w]

lol,

and so it begins......

I know all the new turbo cars we sell here at ford have mufflers on them

vinny's rules, and i believe vinny car was a turbo car.....

the thing is, just like class racing, if you want to be in a "class" that has rules, you build the car around the rules

the DD has rules, if you want to be on it, pretty simple, build something that fit's the rules, the rules have been the same for 10 years, not like it's rocket science to put a combo together that fits them

Pot Meet Kettle ???

[beefcake]

Pot Meet Kettle ???

my car fits the rules, has fit the rules every single year.

[draggin50]

These rules were made 10 years ago and are outdated. Most classes with turbo entries now dont require mufflers.

[k062693w]

my car fits the rules, has fit the rules every single year.

Apparently you Missed the whole meaning of my post, And I don't have time to explain it ...

[beefcake]

These rules were made 10 years ago and are outdated. Most classes with turbo entries now dont require mufflers.

true street, which is a class designed for street cars, requires mufflers

vinny,
whom had a turbo, and designed the dozen

designed these rules, after true street

as far as outdated,

what is so hard about, licensed, insured, drive it on the street, run it through mufflers?

yes, so many rules, how could a car ever conform.....

[facemelter71]

All you guys bitchen about mufflers. Does not say it has to be a muffler from an 87 honda accord. A damn 4 inch race bullet is a muffler.