2010 Dirty Dozen Discussion Thread

[5.0calypso93lx]

Well got nothing better to do ha ha ! i will start off with saying e85 has it good points and bad . Does not have to many but does have a few . but imo the good out ways the bad in most combos . now for back to back compros last year jeff was having a problem with his car . I suggested taking it off e85 and runing it on race gas witch was easier to read the plugs . He did problem stayed car lost cant rember exacly but it was more than a tenth . Now i pay 17 bucks a gallon for race gas if i can ran as good or better for 2.50 a gallon that would be great!!! NOW HERE COMES THE BAD PART . There is not alot of people that know what they are doing with the shi.. e 85 dont blow your shi.. up a bad tune did . one of the benfites of it you can add more timing . Well theres were the gread comes in . on a bad air day or you get a good bach of the stuff you make good power 3 weeks from now the da drops like a rock and you get a lower bach bam hole in the piston . Once more poeple get used to it you will see it more in racing . And i got news for ya 10 years from now old obama is goiing to take my c-23 from me so better start learning

I've been hearing guys like Pauls408notch getting around that problem by running those flex fuel sensors on the car that reads how much ethanol is in that specific batch of e85 going through the fuel lines. Pretty cool stuff! Another huge benefit is for boosted cars that don't wanna spend a crazy amount of money on a big dollar intercooler or the hassle of an A/W. E85 runs cool!

[Metcalf Racing]

Well got nothing better to do ha ha ! i will start off with saying e85 has it good points and bad . Does not have to many but does have a few . but imo the good out ways the bad in most combos . now for back to back compros last year jeff was having a problem with his car . I suggested taking it off e85 and runing it on race gas witch was easier to read the plugs . He did problem stayed car lost cant rember exacly but it was more than a tenth . Now i pay 17 bucks a gallon for race gas if i can ran as good or better for 2.50 a gallon that would be great!!! NOW HERE COMES THE BAD PART . There is not alot of people that know what they are doing with the shi.. e 85 dont blow your shi.. up a bad tune did . one of the benfites of it you can add more timing . Well theres were the gread comes in . on a bad air day or you get a good bach of the stuff you make good power 3 weeks from now the da drops like a rock and you get a lower bach bam hole in the piston . Once more poeple get used to it you will see it more in racing . And i got news for ya 10 years from now old obama is goiing to take my c-23 from me so better start learning

That's why its junk. You can get bad real easy and how do you know when they change the octane? You don't and then you have blowed up junk. After you spend all the extra money to try to make it run right your really not saving any money. your not kidding me if you thought you could be faster and safer with it you'd be running it

[Metcalf Racing]

Wow!!! I have never seen a guy who spends more time putting peoples stuff or ideas down than this Metcalf guy.....I dont know why you guys even waste your time responding to to his ignorant posts.
There are alot of good knowledgable guys on here that are willing to help guys out and provide good POSITIVE information for people that have questions or ideas and thats what this board was supposed to be for(at least thats what I thought).
But he gets on here and provides absolutly nothing positive for the members of this board all he does do is spout off on his shitty opinions about how everything is junk and everybody combination is wrong and how slow everybody is(unless of coarse he uses it or its his combination then its the best fastest shit ever made!!!!)
And just the simple fact that he puts KING or KING OF THE STREET or sum dumb shit like that on his signature(and believe me hes not the king of anything) just proves that he is an arrogant azz and I wouldnt pay attention to a word out of his mouth.
This board could be so much bigger and better than it is but your gonna have to get guys like this off of it so that more people will join and make friends and hang out more because there wont be all the negative drama....

Who pulled your string Clown. You aint no body. You had a car that may have been fast 8yrs ago but it was all borrowed parts. You wasn't anybody then and you aren't anybody now. Do me a favor and just sit there honking you big clown nose thinking you worry some one

[5.0calypso93lx]

That's why its junk. You can get bad real easy and how do you know when they change the octane? You don't and then you have blowed up junk. After you spend all the extra money to try to make it run right your really not saving any money. your not kidding me if you thought you could be faster and safer with it you'd be running it

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[Metcalf Racing]

I've been hearing guys like Pauls408notch getting around that problem by running those flex fuel sensors on the car that reads how much ethanol is in that specific batch of e85 going through the fuel lines. Pretty cool stuff! Another huge benefit is for boosted cars that don't wanna spend a crazy amount of money on a big dollar intercooler or the hassle of an A/W. E85 runs cool!

You need double the fuel system and special sensors that will out weigh the cost of an intercooler

[Kwik92GT]

E85 works. Jeff posted some very good links to check out if anyone wants to have an open mind about this. For the price it is a very good fuel for a boosted or moderately-high compressed engine with or without the sauce. You just need to understand how alcohol works and adjust accordingly. It's not just a matter of changing some jets or cranking the base pressure up on an efi setup, turning the distributor until "it sounds good," and going out making passes. You WILL blow your shit up doing things like that. It blows away ANY "normal" pump gas you'll find for anywhere near the price per gallon. You will need a checker like Jeff showed to be sure of what you have because some blends, especially the winter blend, will be different enough to need some changes in the tune from time to time. Is it the be-all and end-all of fuels? No. But it sure as hell beats most of what's out there for a high HP "street" car when looking at your options. No matter what you use for fuel, if you have your tune on the ragged edge (knowingly or not) sooner or later it will probably bite you in the ass.

Here's a link to what Gale Banks has to say about E85. He seems to like it, but what does he know??

CLICK HERE

Takes a minute or two to load but its good stuff.

[5.0calypso93lx]

You need double the fuel system and special sensors that will out weigh the cost of an intercooler

I bet it easily pays for itself during a racing season.

[Metcalf Racing]

Ok man ill agree with Greg to an extent. It maybe an upgrade to running pump gas if you want to devote all the extra time and money to use then baby sit it. I'd rather put good gas in my car go race have fun and make good power but if that's not what your out to do I say go with it

[Metcalf Racing]

E85 works. Jeff posted some very good links to check out if anyone wants to have an open mind about this. For the price it is a very good fuel for a boosted or moderately-high compressed engine with or without the sauce. You just need to understand how alcohol works and adjust accordingly. It's not just a matter of changing some jets or cranking the base pressure up on an efi setup, turning the distributor until "it sounds good," and going out making passes. You WILL blow your shit up doing things like that. It blows away ANY "normal" pump gas you'll find for anywhere near the price per gallon. You will need a checker like Jeff showed to be sure of what you have because some blends, especially the winter blend, will be different enough to need some changes in the tune from time to time. Is it the be-all and end-all of fuels? No. But it sure as hell beats most of what's out there for a high HP "street" car when looking at your options. No matter what you use for fuel, if you have your tune on the ragged edge (knowingly or not) sooner or later it will probably bite you in the ass.

Here's a link to what Gale Banks has to say about E85. He seems to like it, but what does he know??

CLICK HERE

Takes a minute or two to load but its good stuff.

I know you didn't name drop me. Lmao. Come on man. He's just a guy like me and you

[JASON408]

That's why its junk. You can get bad real easy and how do you know when they change the octane? You don't and then you have blowed up junk. After you spend all the extra money to try to make it run right your really not saving any money. your not kidding me if you thought you could be faster and safer with it you'd be running it

as i said it has good and bad points i use a fair amount of nos and tuning it on e 85 there is not info alot out there . nos unlike boosted or na combos you cant tune with o2s and other gauges reading the plug it what you have to do if you want it to live . and just like q16 it will make you more power but very hard to read the plugs , e85 is somewhere around 108 octane .. i need 119 to 122 octane on my junk

[Metcalf Racing]

as i said it has good and bad points i use a fair amount of nos and tuning it on e 85 there is not info alot out there . nos unlike boosted or na combos you cant tune with o2s and other gauges reading the plug it what you have to do if you want it to live . and just like q16 it will make you more power but very hard to read the plugs , e85 is somewhere around 108 octane .. i need 119 to 122 octane on my junk

Man fuel not pussy gas. Lol

[flyin2jz]

Any gains to be found running some race gas on a lowish compression na motor. 10:1. I know I have junk Craig so don't bust my balls. Lol

[Walter]

Anyone not running Turbo Blue is a pussy!!!!

[Metcalf Racing]

I like your junk Kevin its cool. I know you just chimed in to up your post count lol

[Metcalf Racing]

Anyone not running Turbo Blue is a pussy!!!!

Lol no you put words in my mouth. But really if its your toy and not your dd than your hiding behind pump gas. Put some gas in that baby and wick it up!!!

[Walter]

Lol no you put words in my mouth. But really if its your toy and not your dd than your hiding behind pump gas. Put some gas in that baby and wick it up!!!

LOL "hiding" behind pump gas? I put pump gas in it because its a street car. If it was a race car, id put race gas in it.

[Kwik92GT]

I like your junk Kevin its cool. I know you just chimed in to up your post count lol

Now that's funny shit right there. LOL

[Metcalf Racing]

LOL "hiding" behind pump gas? I put pump gas in it because its a street car. If it was a race car, id put race gas in it.

excuse

[flyin2jz]

Well other than that. Are there gains with my combo trying higher octane and maybe upping the timing? If anyones tried it it u Craig.

[Metcalf Racing]

What kind of timing are you running?